This Style of Basketball HAS to Change
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The 3 foot line* was also about 3 feet (?) closer then. It was a top of the key distance.
*edit: the three point line
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Or move the line back 3 feet to reward those who can shoot effectively from distance and get rid of the Everybody can Shoot a 3 Philosophy.
What’s the point of shooting more 3s when we barely hit the ones we take now?Only 8 teams in the NCAA have taken fewer three-point attempts than we have this year
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We are still playing 1980s-style basketball with two post players on the floor at the same time and a point guard taking low-efficiency mid-range jumpers.
Woody - PLEASE drag this program into the modern era of basketball.
Lol. You do realize (no you don’t)IU is efficient at them just don’t take enough. Almost 38%. Top 25 in percentage.
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Because rose colored glasses and Boomer talk. It’s like they get senile or something. One poster even thought IU shot 30 threes in the 87 UNLV game. We took like 4….yes 4 threes. Hit 2.
Good point but the 14% yesterday left a mark. UNLV was a looong time ago and bball has changed.
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Every team has nights like that. It wasn’t the 3 point shot that doomed us. We got any shot we wanted. Missed a ton of easy ones.
People forget how methodically the RMK teams played before the shot clock. He’d run the motion for two minutes if needed to get a good shot or draw a foul.
Bingo.
Woody structures the game plan based on the horses he has. He will adjust as he brings in new blood.
A couple of scoring wings will help enormously. We do need a 5 though…is MR that guy?
I just looked and Alford went 7/10 from 3against Syracuse. Against UNLV they shot 63% from the field. No point except they could hit shots when pressure on.
That takes years to implement.
Yep. Even in the 45 second years he was still efficient. It’s when it dropped even further that he started having trouble. I know Purdue for instance does well but if you stop them on thier first set their effectiveness drops drastically. Without Edey they would be in big trouble. It’s hard to run that style today.
The next time you see us block out, let me know
I think he is definitely that guy. His upside is huge. And he can rebound and actually his most of his layups, which can't be say about TJD.
I said what I said. Explaining myself again. People thought/think this 80s/90s teams shot more than they did. That’s all.
The three was still pretty new. Kids did not grow up practicing it. The few who could hit them reliably were the naturals.
Now it seems like kids want to practice threes more than free throws.
He has to play the dogs he was given. After two years though, he definitely needs to have an upgraded shooting roster for next year.Only 8 teams in the NCAA have taken fewer three-point attempts than we have this year
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We are still playing 1980s-style basketball with two post players on the floor at the same time and a point guard taking low-efficiency mid-range jumpers.
Woody - PLEASE drag this program into the modern era of basketball.
70 % of missed shots were front on the rim shots. Same with free throws. Is IU players' depth perception bad? Maybe eye checkups are needed.
Yep, it's infuriating. Work hard playing D for 30 seconds only to give up offensive rebound after offensive rebound. The fact that we don't box out is on the coaches. They have to demand it and back that demand up with playing time. You don't box out, you don't play. Pretty simple.
Any yet...we have the 27th most efficient offense in the country.
Not to argue your point, because I do think you're right to a certain extent. Too many possessions, we don't fully utilize all our guys, we play without inside out and side to side player and ball movement, and it hurts us.
But one of the main reasons we're 27th this year, instead of 90th or so like we were last year...is because we are playing more of a modern style, more of the time, than we did last year.
IU's problem isn't modernizing...we'd be incredibly stupid to go Golden State Warriors and forget about the importance of TJD's touches, and forget about JHS's midrange game.
IU's problem is consistency. We don't do anything consistently well, for a majority of a basketball game.
When we defend at a high level, get the ball out off defensive stops, move TJD and Race inside and out, are finding different ways to feature TJD, all 5 players are moving, cutting, playing with energy...we're probably a top 10 Offense and Defense efficiency wise. And we'd probably take a couple more good 3's a game from transition, and through good ball movement, as a result. And we'd look more "modern" because of it.
But we too often have long lulls in energy, on both ends...and for whatever reason, that ends up devolving the offense in to the old "dump it down to TJD or Race"...and watch them work.
Not to argue your point, because I do think you're right to a certain extent. Too many possessions, we don't fully utilize all our guys, we play without inside out and side to side player and ball movement, and it hurts us.
But one of the main reasons we're 27th this year, instead of 90th or so like we were last year...is because we are playing more of a modern style, more of the time, than we did last year.
IU's problem isn't modernizing...we'd be incredibly stupid to go Golden State Warriors and forget about the importance of TJD's touches, and forget about JHS's midrange game.
IU's problem is consistency. We don't do anything consistently well, for a majority of a basketball game.
When we defend at a high level, get the ball out off defensive stops, move TJD and Race inside and out, are finding different ways to feature TJD, all 5 players are moving, cutting, playing with energy...we're probably a top 10 Offense and Defense efficiency wise. And we'd probably take a couple more good 3's a game from transition, and through good ball movement, as a result. And we'd look more "modern" because of it.
But we too often have long lulls in energy, on both ends...and for whatever reason, that ends up devolving the offense in to the old "dump it down to TJD or Race"...and watch them work.
Totally agree. The only consistency IU has is that it is consistently inconsistent, in all facets of the game.
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