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These are not political prisoners

Wow look at that menace to society now back on the streets. She actually said a prayer at an abortion clinic. How dare Trump free someone so dangerous?

 
Step one in Trumpville 2025.

Open the prisons and let violent criminals that do his violent bidding free to prepare for the next thing he needs them to do.
 
Seriously?

I staunchly oppose him pardoning violent J6ers. But this is tinfoil hat stuff here.
I wouldn’t go as far as Court, but this much is irrefutable: some of these guys are violent, anti-government fanatics. They’re emboldened by Trump’s pardons/commutations and likely believe they can now do what they want with impunity. Trump has their backs.
 
Fauci did as good a job as anyone could have. He was very helpful and saved lots of lives

The violent vermin that Trump just released are now free to commit more viloent crimes.

You cannot be this ignorant.


Did he lie under oath about gain of function research?

Did he lie, conspire, to deceive and intentionally mislead concerning covid's probable connection to the Chinese lab?
 
Did he lie under oath about gain of function research?

Did he lie, conspire, to deceive and intentionally mislead concerning covid's probable connection to the Chinese lab?


flame thrower fire GIF
 
If they’re doing security threat assessments and deciding the details are no longer necessary that’s fine. SS manpower and resources are finite and turnover is necessary.

But it seems like he’s just going after his political enemies. That’s an abuse of power Dbm.

Fauci, as the highest paid person in the federal government for years. Should be able to afford private security.
 


Interesting list.

---Hunter Biden--DOJ let the SofLs run on his most serious felony tax charges. After years of heat they indicted him and then made a sweetheart deal with him to avoid any prison time, which was questioned and rejected by the Dem judge.

---Eric Adams--Indicted after going public with his ongoing private criticism of Biden's immigration policies. Says he was told he was not being a good democrat and in retaliation therefore.

---Robert Menendez--August 2021--Publicly condemns Biden's withdraw from Afghanistan and calls for public hearings. September 2020--He & wife indicted.

---Henry Cuellar--Conservative Dem who is anti-abortion. In 2002 appointed by Rick Perry as TX SofS.

---A mayor and a state representative.....who cares?

---I'll give you the Cal congressman--too corrupt to ignore?
 
Interesting list.

---Hunter Biden--DOJ let the SofLs run on his most serious felony tax charges. After years of heat they indicted him and then made a sweetheart deal with him to avoid any prison time, which was questioned and rejected by the Dem judge.

---Eric Adams--Indicted after going public with his ongoing private criticism of Biden's immigration policies. Says he was told he was not being a good democrat and in retaliation therefore.

---Robert Menendez--August 2021--Publicly condemns Biden's withdraw from Afghanistan and calls for public hearings. September 2020--He & wife indicted.

---Henry Cuellar--Conservative Dem who is anti-abortion. In 2002 appointed by Rick Perry as TX SofS.

---A mayor and a state representative.....who cares?

---I'll give you the Cal congressman--too corrupt to ignore?

So they don't qualify as dems who the Biden DOJ went after. Got it.
 
I wouldn’t go as far as Court, but this much is irrefutable: some of these guys are violent, anti-government fanatics. They’re emboldened by Trump’s pardons/commutations and likely believe they can now do what they want with impunity. Trump has their backs.
You should seek to understand the meaning of the word irrefutable as to avoid its misuse in the future…
 
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Did he lie under oath about gain of function research?

Did he lie, conspire, to deceive and intentionally mislead concerning covid's probable connection to the Chinese lab?
No, and the connection to the Chinese is secondary to enabling science and using up to date information to help control the virus and protect lives, which is what his role was and what he did very well.

The drinking bleach BS was you guys. Congrats on that.
 
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Really? They were locked up for praying? Please back this bullshit up with facts. I'd love to read this nonsense.
The one case I researched, that of Bevelyn Williams, she was convicted of threatening employees in multiple locations, physically blocking access by standing in the way and refusing to move, and at one point she shut the door on someone’s hand.

She got three and a half years in prison for that.

So, at least in her case, she was doing more than just praying but it was still massive overkill.

 
The one case I researched, that of Bevelyn Williams, she was convicted of threatening employees in multiple locations, physically blocking access by standing in the way and refusing to move, and at one point she shut the door on someone’s hand.

She got three and a half years in prison for that.

So, at least in her case, she was doing more than just praying but it was still massive overkill.

A repeat offender and assault.
41 months (of which less would be served if she is as saintly a victim as you guys claim) is not massive overkill.
 
Yeah, it’s MASSIVE overkill.

This guy in Seattle got 2 years for setting a police station on fire during the unrest there.


There’s no way what she did deserved 3 1/2 years in prison.
Federal sentencing guidelines almost always result in overkill, if you ask me. But that was never the point. The point was the claim that these people were jailed only for practicing religion. It's part of a decades-old false narrative that our nation is criminalizing Christianity.
 
This is the American hating terrorist the water cooler libs want locked up for life. Boy I'm glad trump won.
So he was convicted of spraying mace in cop's face. And seditious conspiracy. He also fully admits he was a former leader of the Proud Boys. And he was sentenced to 15 years, not life.

I'm not surprised you fell for his 'aw shucks' routine in a TV interview. I'm guessing you think the now-pardoned J6 rioter who beat the shit out of a cop with a baseball bat was probably just teaching his son the proper swing after sharing some apple pie and that cop's face just got in the way.
 
So he was convicted of spraying mace in cop's face. And seditious conspiracy. He also fully admits he was a former leader of the Proud Boys. And he was sentenced to 15 years, not life.

I'm not surprised you fell for his 'aw shucks' routine in a TV interview. I'm guessing you think the now-pardoned J6 rioter who beat the shit out of a cop with a baseball bat was probably just teaching his son the proper swing after sharing some apple pie and that cop's face just got in the way.
Being a leader of the proud boys is not a crime, so we can leave that aside.

15 years for macing a cop is a long ass time. Seditious conspiracy seems to me similarly trumped charges like “obstruction of a official proceeding”

You wander into the capital? You obstructed an official proceeding. Hogwash in my view.
 
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Being a leader of the proud boys is not a crime, so we can leave that aside.

15 years for macing a cop is a long ass time. Seditious conspiracy seems to me similarly trumped charges like “obstruction of a official proceeding”

You wander into the capital? You obstructed an official proceeding. Hogwash in my view.
For what it's worth, even if you 'wander into the Capitol' when Congress is on recess carries a much heavier penalty than wandering into a normal place of business uninvited. Given that he was part of a seditious mob whose goal was to stop the legal process of certifying a legitimate presidential election kind of validates what he was charged with.

And for what it's worth, I get that the Proud Boys are protected by free speech, but their mission is un-American and un-Christian and they're pretty despicable human beings.
 
For what it's worth, even if you 'wander into the Capitol' when Congress is on recess carries a much heavier penalty than wandering into a normal place of business uninvited. Given that he was part of a seditious mob whose goal was to stop the legal process of certifying a legitimate presidential election kind of validates what he was charged with.

And for what it's worth, I get that the Proud Boys are protected by free speech, but their mission is un-American and un-Christian and they're pretty despicable human beings.
Tell the class what the 'mission" of the Proud Boys includes...
 
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Federal sentencing guidelines almost always result in overkill, if you ask me. But that was never the point. The point was the claim that these people were jailed only for practicing religion. It's part of a decades-old false narrative that our nation is criminalizing Christianity.
They weren’t jailed for practicing their religion. I don’t think that was the implication at all.

They were jailed for interfering with access to an abortion clinic, not for praying in front of one.
 
He had memory issues
And I remember getting a bunch of crap on this forum when I said it was obvious that Biden wasn't all there. Like Aloha mentioned about his FIL I saw the obvious signs in Biden because I had been through it with my MIL. I never said anything in a hurtful way because I don't wish something like that on anyone.
 
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Federal sentencing guidelines almost always result in overkill, if you ask me. But that was never the point. The point was the claim that these people were jailed only for practicing religion. It's part of a decades-old false narrative that our nation is criminalizing Christianity.
Also, the guy I linked was also sentenced in federal court, which was kind of the point.
 
Second, drug discovery research absolutely cannot be done without some degree of animal testing.
And yet pharmaceutical companies get a lot of grief because they test on animals but then get sued if every side effect isn't caught.

We should all start ignoring everyone over age 70, for the good of the country.
That's a good idea as long as we include everyone under 30. 🤣

FWIW, my wife started ignoring me a long time before I was even close to 70.🤣
 
What it’s worth isn’t very much in the context of criminality.
Sure.

That said, there are plenty of abhorrent and awful people who don't cross the line of breaking the law. I do think it means a lot in terms of lack of human decency and the degradation of society though.
 
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