The Willing Immorality Of All, One Half At A Time.

[i'vegotwinners]

yes, Biden is clearly not as mentally on his game as he once was.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

and he is obviously corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Hilary was openly corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Trump tried to overturn an election, and even warned us beforehand he was going to if it didn't go his way.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Trump is openly a pathological liar, has been dishonest and a cheat all his life, both professionally and personally, is amoral, and is a totally vile human being, despite being correct on some things.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Reagan and his financial agenda have devastated the working class to benefit the rich.

GW Bush and his henchman openly lied to take us into 20 yrs of war which destabilized the middle east.

one would need to be blind not to see these things.

all or virtually all the the Pubs in the senate are literally owned by Wall St, serve Wall St and the rich and not the general citizenry or even the majority of their own constituency, on literally everything economic literally all the time..

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the exact same could be said for some Dems in the senate as well, though we know not how many.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

some Dems in the senate and house are so beyond woke, or even reverse racist, that they hurt not only race relations in the country, and literally our civil safety, but sabotage their own party every election because of it.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Pubs in state houses across the country are trying to put their entire weight on the scale of democracy, through purging voters more likely to vote Dem, manipulating polling places, changing the rules, and over the top gerrymandering

one would need to be blind not to see that.

9 people, accountable to no one, ever, on anything, who were never elected by anyone, but appointed behind closed doors by one cabal or another BECAUSE of their perceived political views, and not because they have a better grasp of the Constitution than a 1,000 other people or more, have way way way too much power for just 9 people, especially when so much of governance has been given up by the legislative branch and handed over to said just 9 people, literally mandating an activist court.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate willingly allows themselves to only see half of what one would need to be blind not to see.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate cares only about half of what one would need to be partisan to the point of being dangerous not to care about.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

both halves care only about half of this.

the blind spot of all, of literally half their field of vision, has been and constantly is being engineered.

and both haves care only about the half they allow themselves to see, and not at all about the half they don't and won't.

one would need to be blind not to see this.

 

[Zeester]

Let me ask a simple question - how were things under Trump? Did we have a strong economy? Did we have low unemployment for all and high participation rate? Did we have worker shortages? Did we have an open border? Did we have any wars? Did people get their feelings hurt over mean tweets?

One would need to be blind not to see this.

 

[Crayfish57]

Let me ask a simple question - how were things under Trump? Did we have a strong economy? Did we have low unemployment for all and high participation rate? Did we have worker shortages? Did we have an open border? Did we have any wars? Did people get their feelings hurt over mean tweets?

One would need to be blind not to see this.

Exactly, whatever the amoral crap people want to go on about it wasn't while holding a political office. Same can not be said about any of the others. The Kennedy's weren't examples of morality but would we welcome a 38 YO JFK on the ballot in 2024? The family made their money bootlegging, JFK likely had relations with Marilyn Monroe in office and possibly he and Bobby had something to do with her death. Did he have better taste? For sure. I couldnt care less about consenting adults doing things when they aren't in office. All these lefty's that go on about Trump's intelligence? I'd like to see their life's work. Biden has been in politics for 47-48 yrs and still hasn't accomplished anything but mooch off the Govt.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Let me ask a simple question - how were things under Trump? Did we have a strong economy? Did we have low unemployment for all and high participation rate? Did we have worker shortages? Did we have an open border? Did we have any wars? Did people get their feelings hurt over mean tweets?

One would need to be blind not to see this.

thanks for making my point, and seeing only the half you wish to see.

and pretending the other half didn't exist.

and thinking no good ever came before Trump.

and no bad with Trump.

and yes, we had wars under Trump.

and 10s of millions without healthcare.

and much of the working class living paycheck to paycheck.

and democracy literally under attack.

and that economy you speak of built on national debt far more than market metrics.

and a plutocracy.

and a closed border harms all on the wrong side of it, literally 1,000 times more than an open one hurts you or yours. (if at all).

but you care only about half the story.

and completely ignore the other half.

one would need to be blind not to see this.

you are exactly what this thread is about.

thanks for making my point.

 

[Bowlmania]

Exactly, whatever the amoral crap people want to go on about it wasn't while holding a political office. Same can not be said about any of the others. The Kennedy's weren't examples of morality but would we welcome a 38 YO JFK on the ballot in 2024? The family made their money bootlegging, JFK likely had relations with Marilyn Monroe in office and possibly he and Bobby had something to do with her death. Did he have better taste? For sure. I couldnt care less about consenting adults doing things when they aren't in office. All these lefty's that go on about Trump's intelligence? I'd like to see their life's work. Biden has been in politics for 47-48 yrs and still hasn't accomplished anything but mooch off the Govt.

The National Enquirer spotted JFK living in Paris, I believe, 10 or 15 years ago. As he was born in 1917, it's likely he's since passed away. Accordingly, even though he'd be eligible to run again as he served less than one term, it's unlikely we'll see him on the ballot in '24. JFK Jr., on the other hand, has been suggested as a possible Trump running mate in 2024. Those two could, once and for all, destroy the Deep State cabal.

 

[Crayfish57]

The National Enquirer spotted JFK living in Paris, I believe, 10 or 15 years ago. As he was born in 1917, it's likely he's since passed away. Accordingly, even though he'd be eligible to run again as he served less than one term, it's unlikely we'll see him on the ballot in '24. JFK Jr., on the other hand, has been suggested as a possible Trump running mate in 2024. Those two could, once and for all, destroy the Deep State cabal.

Your comprehension skills match your IQ, If you can't understand what I was saying, check in on some free evening education classes at the community center .

 

[Crayfish57]

thanks for making my point, and seeing only the half you wish to see.

and pretending the other half didn't exist.

and thinking no good ever came before Trump.

and no bad with Trump.

and yes, we had wars under Trump.

and 10s of millions without healthcare.

and much of the working class living paycheck to paycheck.

and democracy literally under attack.

and that economy you speak of built on national debt far more than market metrics.

and a plutocracy.

and a closed border harms all on the wrong side of it, literally 1,000 times more than an open one hurts you or yours. (if at all).

but you care only about half the story.

and completely ignore the other half.

one would need to be blind not to see this.

you are exactly what this thread is about.

thanks for making my point.

Do you have some kind of tick that makes you post in such an annoying way?

 

[Bowlmania]

Your comprehension skills match your IQ, If you can't understand what I was saying, check in on some free evening education classes at the community center .

Ok, but how would you feel about a Trump/JFK Jr ticket in '24?

 

[Univee2]

yes, Biden is clearly not as mentally on his game as he once was.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

and he is obviously corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Hilary was openly corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Trump tried to overturn an election, and even warned us beforehand he was going to if it didn't go his way.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Trump is openly a pathological liar, has been dishonest and a cheat all his life, both professionally and personally, is amoral, and is a totally vile human being, despite being correct on some things.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Reagan and his financial agenda have devastated the working class to benefit the rich.

GW Bush and his henchman openly lied to take us into 20 yrs of war which destabilized the middle east.

one would need to be blind not to see these things.

all or virtually all the the Pubs in the senate are literally owned by Wall St, serve Wall St and the rich and not the general citizenry or even the majority of their own constituency, on literally everything economic literally all the time..

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the exact same could be said for some Dems in the senate as well, though we know not how many.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

some Dems in the senate and house are so beyond woke, or even reverse racist, that they hurt not only race relations in the country, and literally our civil safety, but sabotage their own party every election because of it.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Pubs in state houses across the country are trying to put their entire weight on the scale of democracy, through purging voters more likely to vote Dem, manipulating polling places, changing the rules, and over the top gerrymandering

one would need to be blind not to see that.

9 people, accountable to no one, ever, on anything, who were never elected by anyone, but appointed behind closed doors by one cabal or another BECAUSE of their perceived political views, and not because they have a better grasp of the Constitution than a 1,000 other people or more, have way way way too much power for just 9 people, especially when so much of governance has been given up by the legislative branch and handed over to said just 9 people, literally mandating an activist court.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate willingly allows themselves to only see half of what one would need to be blind not to see.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate cares only about half of what one would need to be partisan to the point of being dangerous not to care about.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

both halves care only about half of this.

the blind spot of all, of literally half their field of vision, has been and constantly is being engineered.

and both haves care only about the half they allow themselves to see, and not at all about the half they don't and won't.

one would need to be blind not to see this.

I know I’m blind, after all those one-sentence paragraphs and missing capital letters. That long, run-on Supreme Court sentence/paragraph was a doozy.

I need a drink.

More accurately, you need a drink . . . Provided Wall Street and the money interests will permit it.

 

[Crayfish57]

Ok, but how would you feel about a Trump/JFK Jr ticket in '24?

Do you have some sort of mental issues that you need taken care of? It is obvious you are at least a very simple person. My question was , I may need to water this down for you, IF you had the man JFK was at 38 when elected would you vote for him in 2024? I realize you need help to understand that it obviously isn't going to happen. But the point was about moralities and how you viewed a President, Camelot, all of that and how much did people care about the Kennedy's personal lives?

 

[Bowlmania]

Do you have some sort of mental issues that you need taken care of? It is obvious you are at least a very simple person. My question was , I may need to water this down for you, IF you had the man JFK was at 38 when elected would you vote for him in 2024? I realize you need help to understand that it obviously isn't going to happen. But the point was about moralities and how you viewed a President, Camelot, all of that and how much did people care about the Kennedy's personal lives?

No, I get all that. I'm just saying there's some support for a Trump/JFK Jr. ticket (there was a public rally in Dallas last November, although neither guy appeared) and I'm wondering how you'd feel about that. Other than failing the New York state bar exam on his first two tries, and flying a Piper Saratoga one night without an instrument rating, there's never been a whiff of scandal. Decent guy, from all accounts.

 

[Rockport Zebra]

I think it is becoming clear that primaries are a poor way for a political party to choose political direction. Return to the smoke-filled room and we will get better choices. One would be blind not to see that.

If you got winners' why are you so hard on the Supreme Court? which equals wanting a drastic change in the Constitution.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

yes, Biden is clearly not as mentally on his game as he once was.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

and he is obviously corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Hilary was openly corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Trump tried to overturn an election, and even warned us beforehand he was going to if it didn't go his way.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Trump is openly a pathological liar, has been dishonest and a cheat all his life, both professionally and personally, is amoral, and is a totally vile human being, despite being correct on some things.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Reagan and his financial agenda have devastated the working class to benefit the rich.

GW Bush and his henchman openly lied to take us into 20 yrs of war which destabilized the middle east.

one would need to be blind not to see these things.

all or virtually all the the Pubs in the senate are literally owned by Wall St, serve Wall St and the rich and not the general citizenry or even the majority of their own constituency, on literally everything economic literally all the time..

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the exact same could be said for some Dems in the senate as well, though we know not how many.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

some Dems in the senate and house are so beyond woke, or even reverse racist, that they hurt not only race relations in the country, and literally our civil safety, but sabotage their own party every election because of it.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Pubs in state houses across the country are trying to put their entire weight on the scale of democracy, through purging voters more likely to vote Dem, manipulating polling places, changing the rules, and over the top gerrymandering

one would need to be blind not to see that.

9 people, accountable to no one, ever, on anything, who were never elected by anyone, but appointed behind closed doors by one cabal or another BECAUSE of their perceived political views, and not because they have a better grasp of the Constitution than a 1,000 other people or more, have way way way too much power for just 9 people, especially when so much of governance has been given up by the legislative branch and handed over to said just 9 people, literally mandating an activist court.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate willingly allows themselves to only see half of what one would need to be blind not to see.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate cares only about half of what one would need to be partisan to the point of being dangerous not to care about.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

both halves care only about half of this.

the blind spot of all, of literally half their field of vision, has been and constantly is being engineered.

and both haves care only about the half they allow themselves to see, and not at all about the half they don't and won't.

one would need to be blind not to see this.

I agree with a lot of what you have to say. but you rarely talk about solutions. What form of governance do you advocate? What would be the first 5-6 things you would do if you were in charge?

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Do you have some kind of tick that makes you post in such an annoying way?

obviously truth is annoying to those who want it quashed.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

I agree with a lot of what you have to say. but you rarely talk about solutions. What form of governance do you advocate? What would be the first 5-6 things you would do if you were in charge?

unlike many, i've been pretty open over the yrs about changes i would make.

i may answer your question here later, but would be hijacking the thread in doing so, and the thread is about a vital problem today.


if i somehow wasn't clear on what this thread is and isn't about, unlike most threads, it isn't about what's wrong with govt, but rather about what's wrong with the electorate itself.

we can't fix govt as long as the electorate sees only what it wants to see, and is blind to all it doesn't want to see.

and when both parties, and their respective electorates, overlook and shelter all that is and all who are wrong in their own party, then there isn't, nor can be, any accountability of anyone or anything, on either side.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Let me ask a simple question - how were things under Trump? Did we have a strong economy? Did we have low unemployment for all and high participation rate? Did we have worker shortages? Did we have an open border? Did we have any wars? Did people get their feelings hurt over mean tweets?

One would need to be blind not to see this.

Unemployment is lower now. Yes we were at war in Afghanistan and Biden gif us out. The economy is in worldwide inflation due to the pandemic. Trump’s awful handling of said pandemic didn’t help matters.

 

[zeke4ahs]

The National Enquirer spotted JFK living in Paris, I believe, 10 or 15 years ago. As he was born in 1917, it's likely he's since passed away. Accordingly, even though he'd be eligible to run again as he served less than one term, it's unlikely we'll see him on the ballot in '24. JFK Jr., on the other hand, has been suggested as a possible Trump running mate in 2024. Those two could, once and for all, destroy the Deep State cabal.

Watch it the Q people think JFK is alive and well ( or maybe it’s Jr) . He’s supposed to be running as Trump’s VP. As if the Kennedy’s wouldn’t detest Trump. Saw one at the latest rally saying Michael Jackson was still alive. This is the kind of people we are dealing with.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Watch it the Q people think JFK is alive and well ( or maybe it’s Jr) . He’s supposed to be running as Trump’s VP. As if the Kennedy’s wouldn’t detest Trump. Saw one at the latest rally saying Michael Jackson was still alive. This is the kind of people we are dealing with.

good job.

we must all stick to pointing out just the idiocracy and malevolence perpetrated by THE OTHER SIDE.

that's the important thing.

every post in this thread has been a testament to the thread itself.

 

[Rockport Zebra]

good job.

we must all stick to pointing out just the idiocracy and malevolence perpetrated by THE OTHER SIDE.

that's the important thing.

every post in this thread has been a testament to the thread itself.

I take exception. Every post.

 

[Crayfish57]

Watch it the Q people think JFK is alive and well ( or maybe it’s Jr) . He’s supposed to be running as Trump’s VP. As if the Kennedy’s wouldn’t detest Trump. Saw one at the latest rally saying Michael Jackson was still alive. This is the kind of people we are dealing with.

I can tell my comment went right over your head as well. Not surprised though.

 

[Crayfish57]

No, I get all that. I'm just saying there's some support for a Trump/JFK Jr. ticket (there was a public rally in Dallas last November, although neither guy appeared) and I'm wondering how you'd feel about that. Other than failing the New York state bar exam on his first two tries, and flying a Piper Saratoga one night without an instrument rating, there's never been a whiff of scandal. Decent guy, from all accounts.

I never mentioned JFK jr. Some of you people's imaginations just run wild. It was merely a what if that was obvious to most people. He was never President so why he would be a what if he were alive today? JFK would be right of center in today's world. No, I don't believe in time travel or any of that. Was merely using JFK's ideology when he was President and how he would be viewed today.

 

[sglowrider]

The power elites have the country exactly where they want it to be -- divide and conquer

 

[i'vegotwinners]

I think it is becoming clear that primaries are a poor way for a political party to choose political direction. Return to the smoke-filled room and we will get better choices. One would be blind not to see that.

a smoke filled room behind closed doors, is effectively how we got Hilary in 16 and Biden in 20.

the guys in the smoke filled room interceded, when they feared the electorate might or was getting it wrong.

how'd that work out in 16?

how's that workin out now?

don't kid yourself, it happened.

has before as well.

If you got winners' why are you so hard on the Supreme Court? which equals wanting a drastic change in the Constitution.

"drastic"?

hardly.


and the Constitution isn't some flawless document from God, carved into stone tablets and carried down Bunker Hill by GW with one tablet cradled in each arm as the storms raged around him, as many seem to think.

for all it got right, it was also flawed in it's original form, and has become outdated in other ways over 250 yrs as well.

and iirc, the Constitution doesn't set the number of judges on SCOTUS, and the number has been changed before..

that said, SCOTUS absolutely is way way too much power for only 9 people, (5 people), (1 person), for life, elected by no one, answerable to no one, ever, on anything, and appointed behind closed doors by one cabal or another.

would i change the number to 10 or 11, no.

more like to 101.

6 yr terms, one term only, elected popular vote, 1/6th rotated out every other yr.

no national office allowed after their term, literally no income at all allowed during or after their term, earned or gifted, to them or their spouse, other than inheritance from a direct relative, their salary while on the court, and an appropriate govt severance plus SS after.

 

[Rockport Zebra]

a smoke filled room behind closed doors, is effectively how we got Hilary in 16 and Biden in 20.

the guys in the smoke filled room interceded, when they feared the electorate might or was getting it wrong.

don't kid yourself, it happened.

has before as well.




"drastic"?

hardly.


and the Constitution isn't some flawless document from God, carved into stone tablets and carried down Bunker Hill by GW with one tablet cradled in each arm as the storms raged around him, as many seem to think.

for all it got right, it was also flawed in it's original form, and has become outdated in other ways over 250 yrs as well.

and iirc, the Constitution doesn't set the number of judges on SCOTUS, and the number has been changed before..

that said, SCOTUS absolutely is way way too much power for only 9 people, (5 people), (1 person), for life, elected by no one, answerable to no one, ever, on anything, and appointed behind closed doors by one cabal or another.

would i change the number to 10 or 11, no.

more like to 101.

6 yr terms, one term only, elected popular vote, 1/6th rotated out every other yr.

no national office allowed after their term, literally no income at all allowed during or after their term, earned or gifted, to them or their spouse, other than inheritance from a direct relative, their salary while on the court, and an appropriate govt severance plus SS after.

Meanwhile the Republicans had so many candidates in 16 that it caused a train wreck. I really don't like talking with you because you are such a partisan.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Meanwhile the Republicans had so many candidates in 16 that it caused a train wreck. I really don't like talking with you because you are such a partisan.

or perhaps it's precisely because you are and i'm not, which pretty much makes me the lone ranger here..

 

[VanPastorMan]

Exactly, whatever the amoral crap people want to go on about it wasn't while holding a political office. Same can not be said about any of the others. The Kennedy's weren't examples of morality but would we welcome a 38 YO JFK on the ballot in 2024? The family made their money bootlegging, JFK likely had relations with Marilyn Monroe in office and possibly he and Bobby had something to do with her death. Did he have better taste? For sure. I couldnt care less about consenting adults doing things when they aren't in office. All these lefty's that go on about Trump's intelligence? I'd like to see their life's work. Biden has been in politics for 47-48 yrs and still hasn't accomplished anything but mooch off the Govt.

What about Bill Clinton in the Oval Office with Monica. He was,"Ridin Dirty".

 

[Bowlmania]

What about Bill Clinton in the Oval Office with Monica. He was,"Ridin Dirty".

Hey Pastor guy. Is immorality limited to sexual dalliances? What about bearing false witness (i.e. lying)? What about a guy who lied literally tens of thousands of times over the span of four years, and continues to perpetuate an enormously destructive lie? Giving him a pass, reverend?

 

[UncleMark]

Hey Pastor guy. Is immorality limited to sexual dalliances? What about bearing false witness (i.e. lying)? What about a guy who lied literally tens of thousands of times over the span of four years, and continues to perpetuate an enormously destructive lie? Giving him a pass, reverend?

Then there's infidelity. It only matters if one is in office, evidently.

 

[VanPastorMan]

yes, Biden is clearly not as mentally on his game as he once was.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

and he is obviously corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Hilary was openly corrupt.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Trump tried to overturn an election, and even warned us beforehand he was going to if it didn't go his way.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Trump is openly a pathological liar, has been dishonest and a cheat all his life, both professionally and personally, is amoral, and is a totally vile human being, despite being correct on some things.

one would have to be blind not to see that.

Reagan and his financial agenda have devastated the working class to benefit the rich.

GW Bush and his henchman openly lied to take us into 20 yrs of war which destabilized the middle east.

one would need to be blind not to see these things.

all or virtually all the the Pubs in the senate are literally owned by Wall St, serve Wall St and the rich and not the general citizenry or even the majority of their own constituency, on literally everything economic literally all the time..

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the exact same could be said for some Dems in the senate as well, though we know not how many.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

some Dems in the senate and house are so beyond woke, or even reverse racist, that they hurt not only race relations in the country, and literally our civil safety, but sabotage their own party every election because of it.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

Pubs in state houses across the country are trying to put their entire weight on the scale of democracy, through purging voters more likely to vote Dem, manipulating polling places, changing the rules, and over the top gerrymandering

one would need to be blind not to see that.

9 people, accountable to no one, ever, on anything, who were never elected by anyone, but appointed behind closed doors by one cabal or another BECAUSE of their perceived political views, and not because they have a better grasp of the Constitution than a 1,000 other people or more, have way way way too much power for just 9 people, especially when so much of governance has been given up by the legislative branch and handed over to said just 9 people, literally mandating an activist court.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate willingly allows themselves to only see half of what one would need to be blind not to see.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

the electorate cares only about half of what one would need to be partisan to the point of being dangerous not to care about.

one would need to be blind not to see that.

both halves care only about half of this.

the blind spot of all, of literally half their field of vision, has been and constantly is being engineered.

and both haves care only about the half they allow themselves to see, and not at all about the half they don't and won't.

one would need to be blind not to see this.

Aren't you happy that now we have an open and free Twitter so the whole country can discuss these things? As a believer in Jesus I recognize human sin as being part of us all. None of our leaders are perfect. None do their jobs perfectly. Nor would we if we were in their position. What I look at is do our leaders at least go by the Constitution which guarantees our God given rights. Now sometimes they work on the other side of the Constitution or they work in gray areas. For instance when FDR put all the Japanese Americans in camps during WW2 their Constitutional rights were violated. They were not free as they should have been. Does this mean FDR did everything wrong? No, he brought us through WW2. Yesterday in my sermon which I preached from Acts 5 I said that we in the church are a hodge podge. What I meant by that is sometimes we follow the Lord and sometimes we don't. Sometimes we are dedicated to the cause of the Gospel and sometimes we are not. Yet He loves us still.

 

[VanPastorMan]

Hey Pastor guy. Is immorality limited to sexual dalliances? What about bearing false witness (i.e. lying)? What about a guy who lied literally tens of thousands of times over the span of four years, and continues to perpetuate an enormously destructive lie? Giving him a pass, reverend?

How many times did Obama lie? Do we throw everything good he did out the window? Read my comments above about my comments yesterday in my sermon.

 

[VanPastorMan]

Then there's infidelity. It only matters if one is in office, evidently.

Here is an example that was mentioned above. If Kennedy did have relations with Marilyn Monroe while President are we still happy he stood up to the Russians who were putting missiles in Cuba? None of our leaders are perfect. But what all of us should care about is them doing what the Constitution says and guaranteeing our God given rights.

 

[Bowlmania]

How many times did Obama lie? Do we throw everything good he did out the window? Read my comments above about my comments yesterday in my sermon.

Perhaps I've overlooked it, but I don't recall you ever writing anything that's specifically critical of Trump (and I'm not talking about some general "we're all sinners" declaration). Yet here, in the span of five minutes, you've referenced specific instances of immorality on the part of FDR, JFK and Obama I guess Jesus is a Republican, right?

 

[IUCrazy2]

or perhaps it's precisely because you are and i'm not, which pretty much makes me the lone ranger here..

You are a partisan as well. You are just a partisan for a group, party, school of thought that does not get much traction in the U.S. because it is a philosophy that has literally never worked. Anywhere.

 

[outside shooter]

How many times did Obama lie? Do we throw everything good he did out the window? Read my comments above about my comments yesterday in my sermon.

You act like fact-checking Presidential statements began with Trump. It didn't. All the stats are out there, though I need to subscribe to the washington Post web site to get the details.

From other sites reporting such stats, one analysis shows that in their first 100 days, Trump's public statements contained lies or clear falsehoods 59% of the time, Biden 50%, Obama 9%, GWB 24%, GHWB 21%, Bill Clinton 14%.

It seems 20-25% is the norm. Obama was by far the most consistently truthful president of the past 30 years. He never got my vote, though. Biden, surprisingly, is creeping up on Trump by that analysis. It doesn't speak to how serious or absurd each lie is, though. DJT was especially notable for highly impactful lying.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

You are a partisan as well. You are just a partisan for a group, party, school of thought that does not get much traction in the U.S. because it is a philosophy that has literally never worked. Anywhere.

elaborate please.

this should be good.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Aren't you happy that now we have an open and free Twitter so the whole country can discuss these things? As a believer in Jesus I recognize human sin as being part of us all. None of our leaders are perfect. None do their jobs perfectly. Nor would we if we were in their position. What I look at is do our leaders at least go by the Constitution which guarantees our God given rights. Now sometimes they work on the other side of the Constitution or they work in gray areas. For instance when FDR put all the Japanese Americans in camps during WW2 their Constitutional rights were violated. They were not free as they should have been. Does this mean FDR did everything wrong? No, he brought us through WW2. Yesterday in my sermon which I preached from Acts 5 I said that we in the church are a hodge podge. What I meant by that is sometimes we follow the Lord and sometimes we don't. Sometimes we are dedicated to the cause of the Gospel and sometimes we are not. Yet He loves us still.

why do you hate democracy, freedom, the things Christ stood for, and the Constitution?

you are nothing but a troll.

how said.