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And I bet it has more power than the car you sold it for had underneath its

A buddy I went to school with, back when “homegrown” was a derogatory word, later in life told me he recently purchased a Corvette Stingray. I ran into him about a year or so later when he commented about the fancy car he know longer had. All he had to say was, “Well, I got THAT out of my system.” I interrupted his response as a move in the right direction towards conquering his mid-life crises demons

One more, then I’ll let you go…
My second ex-wife’s younger sister (very hot looking, more so than my second ex-wife but I never told her that…my wife, that is) once uttered at the dinner table, “If an auto is analogous to a human body part, the Corvette would be the penis.” I assumed a rather large one of abnormal length and girth of eye-popping thickness. Today remarried, whenever I see a flashy Corvette, I visualize a swollen member on four wheels, cruising down the highway on full display. I always wonder what its driver must feel, deep inside.
I don't buy/sell cars. I buy examples of less common models to enjoy. They appreciate if maintained correctly. I bought the frc to drive and keep the miles down on my '91 ZR-1.
I enjoy working on and showing them.
As for your projection, immaturity may account for the ex-wives body count....
 
I don't buy/sell cars. I buy examples of less common models to enjoy. They appreciate if maintained correctly. I bought the frc to drive and keep the miles down on my '91 ZR-1.
I enjoy working on and showing them.
As for your projection, immaturity may account for the ex-wives body count....
The body count would be easy if not for all the carnage left behind.

I’ve heard the term “passive-aggressive” directed towards my vicinity. Whenever my second ex-wife (SEX-wife) got really upset with me, I would run to the CD stereo to play Elvis’ “Peace in the Valley” gospel song. “Really upset” would suddenly morph to “royally pissed off,” as I knew it would.

“Narcissistic numbskull” was another one muttered by another my way. It pairs well with my Delusions of Grandeur, named after 18th century British clinical psychologist, Gerry B. Grandiose.

“My Way” (Frank Sinatra ver.) will be the third song played at my “celebration” of death by the living.
 
The body count would be easy if not for all the carnage left behind.

I’ve heard the term “passive-aggressive” directed towards my vicinity. Whenever my second ex-wife (SEX-wife) got really upset with me, I would run to the CD stereo to play Elvis’ “Peace in the Valley” gospel song. “Really upset” would suddenly morph to “royally pissed off,” as I knew it would.

“Narcissistic numbskull” was another one muttered by another my way. It pairs well with my Delusions of Grandeur, named after 18th century British clinical psychologist, Gerry B. Grandiose.

“My Way” (Frank Sinatra ver.) will be the third song played at my “celebration” of death by the living.
George Strait once said all my Ex's live in Texas, I bet yours reside in institutions.
 
Couple things to point out to you...

There are a couple of different "Simon" factions. All related, but seemingly all have their own money to throw around.

Herb owns the Pacers soley. Cindy is Melvin's daughter. David (current CEO of namesake company) is another Melvin child. Neither of them have much, if anything, to do with the Pacers. Herb's son Steve is the heir apparent there.

If you think Herb has been a poor owner, I would suggest to you that you are naïve. The Simon's bought the Pacers essentially as a charitable donation. Herb is now the longest tenured owner in NBA history and is going to get into the NBA hall of fame. Compared to other middle market teams- the Pacers have been one of the most, if not the most consistent for the past 30 years. You'll never hear a player, coach, anybody say a bad thing about Herb. Larry Bird loves them man, what else do you need to know.

As far as Democratic donations.... They've been democrats forever. Get over it. $300k is peanuts. Downtown Indy would not be what it (the good parts included!) is if the Simons weren't part of the community. Circle Center at the time was a huge deal and set off a dominio effect that hey... maybe downtown Indy isn't so bad! Does the mall suck now? Ya, but that has way more to do with the fact that urban malls in medium sized cities don't have a great track record.

Your old adage is not inaccurate. But Herb Simon is one of the most generous, humble, kind billionaires you could ever meet. I don't know anything about Cindy though. David is an asshole, so maybe it runs on that side of the family. I highly, highly doubt she is inserting herself into administrative decisions as that would be very counter to the family's low-key M.O., but I could be wrong.
I know Cindy a little, but know people who know her well ( sorority sisters). They really like her and I would be equally surprised if she was inserting herself into coaching decisions.
 
what proof of this great NIL success do we have? its repeated many times on here how far ahead of everyone else we are. I haven't seen it on the court, haven't seen it with the likes of Boogie Fland and Derek Queen
JHS, Malik, MM, Ware…. TJD coming back for senior year.
 
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control of what? the name on the building has more value with a winning team. The problems at IU started well before Cindy Simon got involved. and what would be her interest in protecting Buckner and Woodson? Buckner does Pacer games but don't see another connection. just like everyone was saying Woodson was gone a week or so ago, this shit on the internet is just that shit. I could almost guarantee you the Simons are not as involved as you think. I said at the time the people I knew weren't talking about him being fired.
Kurt, I don't always agree with your comments but this time you're spot on.
 
They want to win? Or they want control? I’m not convinced one way or the other. If they were just generous philanthropists, would they really need their names plastered all over Assembly Hall?
Having your name on a building is a bit different than wanting control. You think Mellencamp wants to control the football program? Cuban wants to control the sports media department?
 
JHS, Malik, MM, Ware…. TJD coming back for senior year.
I'm sure they were all compensated very well. but there are probably 60 programs that could have compensated them just as well as IU has. my point is people act as if we are head and shoulders above everyone else. I'm not so sure that's the case. throw football in the mix and I guarantee you we are behind a ton of schools.
 
I'm sure they were all compensated very well. but there are probably 60 programs that could have compensated them just as well as IU has. my point is people act as if we are head and shoulders above everyone else. I'm not so sure that's the case. throw football in the mix and I guarantee you we are behind a ton of schools.
I’m not sure about that. Getting Ware and MM the same year likely took quite a bit of $$$. NIL money is listed publicly. I can’t remember where I saw it but we were top 10 in country.
 
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The most commendable donors are those listing themselves “anonymous.” These are the true givers, free of recognition in return.
Welcome to the Anonymous Assembly Hall, sounds like a place most of you think I need to go to, possibly top 10 post of all time.
 
I’m not sure about that. Getting Ware and MM the same year likely took quite a bit of $$$. NIL money is listed publicly. I can’t remember where I saw it but we were top 10 in country.
not doubting you but why would it be listed publicly; how would anyone know a lot of these deals the athletes can negotiate themselves. now the collective you may be right. but the side deals who knows.

bringing in 2 5 stars sure it was costly, but Duke UK Kansas bring in 3-5 every year.
 
not doubting you but why would it be listed publicly; how would anyone know a lot of these deals the athletes can negotiate themselves. now the collective you may be right. but the side deals who knows.

bringing in 2 5 stars sure it was costly, but Duke UK Kansas bring in 3-5 every year.
I mean total amount of NIL, but I’ve also seen estimates of players. I’ll see if I can find it. Duke, UK and Kansas can selll their program without as much money , they can sell being a viable champion every year etc. IM sure they have plenty of money too though.
 
And I bet it has more power than the car you sold it for had underneath its

A buddy I went to school with, back when “homegrown” was a derogatory word, later in life told me he recently purchased a Corvette Stingray. I ran into him about a year or so later when he commented about the fancy car he know longer had. All he had to say was, “Well, I got THAT out of my system.” I interrupted his response as a move in the right direction towards conquering his mid-life crises demons

One more, then I’ll let you go…
My second ex-wife’s younger sister (very hot looking, more so than my second ex-wife but I never told her that…my wife, that is) once uttered at the dinner table, “If an auto is analogous to a human body part, the Corvette would be the penis.” I assumed a rather large one of abnormal length and girth of eye-popping thickness. Today remarried, whenever I see a flashy Corvette, I visualize a swollen member on four wheels, cruising down the highway on full display. I always wonder what its driver must feel, deep inside.
Na, a Corvette is a poor man's Porsche among car guys that like cars that handle. What a lot of people don't get is that it doesn't have to be "write me a ticket red" or some flashy color ... some people just assume that person wants attention when what they want was a reliable classic and don't give a crap ... will get it painted or trade up eventually. A FRC Corvette is a fantastic buy as a handling car with as much power as you need. It's the dudes in the ginormous $100K pickup trucks for absolutely no reason that have the Viagra issues
 
That cammed LS1 Corvette frc sitting in my garage, which I bought with MONEY, provides all the 'happiness' I can handle...
Don't let anybody give you crap about mid-life crisis stuff. Hang onto that car! I know what they are, it WILL appreciate only. In ten years, prediction, that car will be the equivalent of where the hypo 327 C3's or early ZR1's are now. I could have retired a few years early had I held onto an S54 Z3M DINAN with 40K on it ... 365HP in a go-kart, still have seller's remorse, will forever.
 
I know Cindy a little, but know people who know her well ( sorority sisters). They really like her and I would be equally surprised if she was inserting herself into coaching decisions.
I kind of agree. My GF was in the same class. Reports nothing extraordinary. Nothing big, nothing little. Average is a good word. Kinda like our beloved state basketball brands they own.

But she’s not a singular entity either, is she?
 
That cammed LS1 Corvette frc sitting in my garage, which I bought with MONEY, provides all the 'happiness' I can handle...
Nothing beats the lope of a good cam.

My luck. A billionaire chooses to spend money in a manner that assures the program stays down. Who knows how much NIL money will be required to get a Woodson to the Sweet Sixteen let alone Final Four. Back up the truck.

The Top 5 picks will average about $10 mil first year so maybe double that to get the top five players to transfer to IU so maybe $100 mil NIL pledge from Simons should do it next season.

I must admit watching Dillingham and Sheppard’s guard play next year in Cream and Crimson will be enjoyable. If we are depending on NIL then don‘t be cheap. Get it done. We all know it won’t get done.
 
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Na, a Corvette is a poor man's Porsche among car guys that like cars that handle. What a lot of people don't get is that it doesn't have to be "write me a ticket red" or some flashy color ... some people just assume that person wants attention when what they want was a reliable classic and don't give a crap ... will get it painted or trade up eventually. A FRC Corvette is a fantastic buy as a handling car with as much power as you need. It's the dudes in the ginormous $100K pickup trucks for absolutely no
My FRC is light metallic pewter.

The ZR-1 is bright red.

LOL
 
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Don't let anybody give you crap about mid-life crisis stuff. Hang onto that car! I know what they are, it WILL appreciate only. In ten years, prediction, that car will be the equivalent of where the hypo 327 C3's or early ZR1's are now. I could have retired a few years early had I held onto an S54 Z3M DINAN with 40K on it ... 365HP in a go-kart, still have seller's remorse, will forever.
I didn’t know what an FRC Corvette was until I googled it. In
my old neighbor two bothers got Corvette Stingray convertibles gifted when they graduated from high school, one in ‘66, the other ‘67. Imagine showing up at the U of Miami in a “British racing green” Stingray. The guy was already a face man so it was lucky he didn’t drown in the wetness of South Beach puss*. He later converted to Jehovah Witness which I always found a bit odd, given the horsepower.

My SEX-wife (there she goes again!) came from money. For a housewarming gift she surprised me one day with a new ‘99 Jeep Wrangler, Sahara Edition. Being a Butler grad, she didn’t appreciate the IU/PU rivalry. The vehicle she purchased was GOLD colored. I didn’t have the heart to tell her she really screwed up. Anyway, when we divorced I had fallen in love with my little Brown Co. roust-about and had to pay her the current Kelley blue book value in order to keep it. I still have it today and after a recent purchase of a JD XUV 590M Gator I need the garage space so “she’s” for sale with <90 K miles. PM me if interested.

BTW, my midlife crises was later adding a 4” lift to the Jeep, along with bigger tires. I wanted to give it a badder ass-looking profile for the sake of the ladies. Think of it as cosmetic surgery for the insecure car enthusiast.
 
Don't let anybody give you crap about mid-life crisis stuff. Hang onto that car! I know what they are, it WILL appreciate only. In ten years, prediction, that car will be the equivalent of where the hypo 327 C3's or early ZR1's are now. I could have retired a few years early had I held onto an S54 Z3M DINAN with 40K on it ... 365HP in a go-kart, still have seller's remorse, will forever.
S54 engine is amazing. Fantastic induction noise.
 
The majority of those of Jewish faith have been Democrats forever. It should come to no one's surprise. The Democratic party traditionally caters to those identifying themselves as oppressed.
I wondered how long it would take in this thread for someone to bring up their faith. You did not disappoint. Thanks for stereotype. Had they been "Christian" it would not have been mentioned.
 
I guess Lexus wants to stay away from the BMW phenomena of people bricking their car with mods and tuning.
 
I guess Lexus wants to stay away from the BMW phenomena of people bricking their car with mods and tuning.
I suspect they may also be making it harder for owners or third parties to service the cars.

Cars are so unnecessarily complex nowadays.
 
That model was only available with a manual. Solid top version. Originally it was supposed to be a stripped version of the C5 but they chickened out. Didn’t want to “cheapen” the vette.
The FRC I bought has the bolt-ons to bring it up to Z06
levels :
Cam/heads/ignition/headers/Halltech air box/no cats/Borla S/
Z06 shifter/brakes/

It can get violent when provoked...I don't push it 'cause I'm old and don't heal as fast as I once did.
 
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The FRC I bought has the bolt-ons to bring it up to Z06
levels :
Cam/heads/ignition/headers/Halltech air box/no cats/Borla S/
Z06 shifter/brakes/

It can get violent when provoked...I don't push it 'cause I'm old and don't heal as fast as I once did.
I built a 2000 Camaro. Did 550ish. I also helped on a 99 vette. It had 180 degree headers. That makes the best music. My GN is a real deal mid 11 second car. I’m going to do the E85 stuff at some point.
 
I built a 2000 Camaro. Did 550ish. I also helped on a 99 vette. It had 180 degree headers. That makes the best music. My GN is a real deal mid 11 second car. I’m going to do the E85 stuff at some point.
I had a 1989 anniversary trans am with that turbo 6, unmodded, and it was low 13’s. 11’s is moving it.
 
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I had a 1989 anniversary trans am with that turbo 6, unmodded, and it was low 13’s. 11’s is moving it.
Love those. People assume it’s the same engine. But…those had different heads , intercooler, crossed drilled crank, rods,, pistons, SG1 block. It was a serious project all its own.
 
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