The Cost of Buying The US Government was $288M
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When soros was buying up local elections it wasn’t a problem. No complaints. It’s a problem bc musk hates their woke bs. If he supported Harris they wouldn’t be pouting. They’re rich business guys. Of course they support less regs and pub themes. Again it’s a problem bc they support pubs. Comically transparent
Is that an opinion though, just like those that think what Musk is doing isn't right?
Musk is yet to be determined. I think it’s pretty clear soros’ ideas are a nightmare
Sure, but Musk for sure bought his way into power. That's undeniable.
Nobody should be able to buy their way into power no matter who they are, IMO. I would say that if it was Jesus himself.
It’s also unprecedented. He paid $300 million for the keys to the kingdom.
The false equivalences are hilarious.
Perhaps if you’re not very bright it’s hilarious which clearly you’re not. The influence is at different levels
Oh and you loved Harris and all that bullshit 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Hickory 2.0. If Harris won and soros’ footed the bill you wouldn’t be pouting. It’s just partisan complaining bc musk hates woke
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Looks like stalking me is now your full-time gig. Pathetic.
Don’t you have anything better to do? Isn’t it time for one of your beauty treatments?
Not locking up criminals which is what most Soros backed DA's support has been a real problem for one. Musk eliminating spending on ridiculous wokeness no problem. I also do not agree with all layoffs, many of them I agree.
There are some incredibly stupid posters on this board like bowl who are just tribal. They’re pissed about it now bc the funding went to the side they don’t like. Soros. Musk. It’s the same shit. Any sensible objective person recognizes billionaires’ having outsized influence is a massive problem for the entire system
You're missing the point.
There are some on the left who back Soros and think what he does is okay. He is the right's boogeyman.
There are some on the right who back Musk and think what he does is okay. He is the left's boogeyman.
Both are not okay because they have bought their way into influence and power into our government.
You are making this way to complicated.
I didn’t think that another poster could be as stupid as Hickory, but Blow has him beat!
I think you missed what I stated earlier, I am not in favor of anyone owning the government. My point is what you just stated it is a problem owned by both parties. This is the exact argument for term limits.
I'm 100% for term limits, but your gonna have to connect the dots for buying influence and term limits.
That seems like two entirely different topics.
They used to vote GOP but that has indeed changed over time.
But the super wealthy tend to be college educated and live in urban areas, factors that tend to make you lean DEM anyway, especially in the Trump era. I am not sure if their degree of DEM leaning exceeds that of less wealthy citizens of similar educational backgrounds living in the same areas.
Maybe I am wrong, but I do believe that many people actually start in politics actually want to serve the people. However once they are in office they quickly fall victim to almighty dollar and soon are just there to try and remain in power and
No one before Musk ever bought this degree of power, access and influence with respect to the federal government. And Zuckerberg, Bezos and other billionaires are lining up to get in on the action.
Welcome to the American Oligarchy.
Your blending two entirely different topics.
Politicians are elected by us, the people. Musk and Soros were never elected, they just used their money to buy their influence. That shouldn't be allowed at any time, yet its only okay by the side who's in power at the time.
If you want to talk about politicians lining their pockets, you won't get an argument out of me. I think the vast majority do it in some way or another on both sides of the aisle, but that's not the same as buying your way into our government.
You have to admit that what Musk is currently doing and the establishment of DOGE is something that this country hasn’t seen to date. This is very different.
I don’t think so. It’s at the federal level. 25,000 cases dismissed here. And if soros impacted policy in 75 cities on just this issue alone. Musk is at the federal level and his policy is reducing gov. Soros was social Justice etc at the state and local levels. it’s all the same dance. Some just don’t like the music
Billionaires with outsized influence is bad
'The evidence was so overwhelming': Missouri AG releases final report in investigation against Kim Gardner
Andrew Bailey is calling for tougher laws on holding public officials accountable and changes to Victims' Rights Act.
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IMO, the at the federal level is a key difference. The size and scale and potential impact is very significant.I don’t think so. It’s at the federal level. 25,000 cases dismissed here. And if soros impacted policy in 75 cities on just this issue alone. Musk is at the federal level and his policy is reducing gov. Soros was social Justice etc at the state and local levels. it’s all the same dance. Some just don’t like the music
Billionaires with outsized influence is bad
'The evidence was so overwhelming': Missouri AG releases final report in investigation against Kim Gardner
Andrew Bailey is calling for tougher laws on holding public officials accountable and changes to Victims' Rights Act.
Depends on the issue. If you care about public safety we would certainly be safer with less Doj and fbi here than a reduction in cops and prosecutions. State and local gov is 10x the size of fed ees. You get billionaires going state by state that’s quite an influence
But the principle is the same whether it soros musk or anyone else. I don’t think arguing over degrees is the real issue
The campaign contributions don't fully explain what amazes me about the Trump/Musk relationship.
What amazes me is Trump's willingness to share the spot light with Musk and even imply Musk is in charge.
Is Trump starting to feel his age, or what?
Sold the election to musk. Just wanted to win. Getting out of crim matters I trust is what trump cared most about
The majority of non-super rich with the same education levels as the super rich and living in the same metro areas as the super rich also voted blue and supported Dems.
Until we know the numbers, it is unclear what is the driver.
I'd also add revenge. He wanted to win to get revenge on those that he doesn't think is on his side.
Yes. It's entirely different. Musk bought influence and sweeping access to agencies and databases unlike anything ever seen at any level of US government.
He and his DOGE boys obtained access to the federal payment system that controls the flow of trillions of dollars in funds each year. This includes access to confidential and personal information of millions of Americans, including personal taxpayer data maintained by the IRS and access to information on social security benefit recipients. They've obtained access to a Housing and Urban Development system that contains confidential and personal information regarding hundreds of thousands of housing discrimination complainants, as well as access to records of Treasury and State Department officials.
As of mid-February, DOGE had gained access to at least 15 federal agencies including the Department of Defense, the Department of Labor, the IRS, the National Institutes of Health, and NASA.
The false equivalences are absurd but predictable.
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See, I'm torn. I've desired for some time the idea that tech bros or folks like Gates/Bezos would take an interest in reforming the aging infrastructure of our government agencies. And not only with regards to tech, but process/workflow/logistics, etc. I guess I incorrectly figured it would be with a mandate to provide the same or better service at a cheaper cost. And to to figure out the HOW on that. Wrangle the industries necessary to make that happen.
But cutting isn't reforming. It's just cutting. And cutting waste/fraud/abuse is great. We should do that. But cutting programs you don't like b/c of political philosophy requires the vote of the people. I think Musk/Trump are going to find out, should they ever get to Medicare/caid, SS, DoD that a lot of people didn't vote for this shit.
Again, the mission should be to provide the services the current populace depends on to live and have built their financial lives around while cutting the cost to provide those services. Period.
