Anyone have an opinion on that B10 crew that looked at the ASU-UT potential targeting call late in the game and waived it off? Wow. Have seen IU guys get sent off for less obvious calls.
Targeting?
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Text book example of 2 of their main criteria…defenseless receiver hit at or near head…and helmet to helmet contact. Can’t fathom how a full review, away from the field, could come up with no targeting. Doubt it’s ever explained.
And what do you expect from a BIG crew?
Everyone saw the same thing, targeting. Even the retired tv Ref felt it was targeting. But leave it to the Big 10 crew!! Probably mistook TX for OSU or UM. Or undefeated Iowa in ‘09 vs IU.
Similar hits or less intensive hits were called in multiple B1G games this year. Only reason B1G crew was on the field, it was contractual.
The old 'we don't want to determine the outcome of the game' horse manure non-call.
I don't want them to either on ticky tack stuff, because of the inconsistency on some types of penalties. But when it's a penalty, you have to call it.
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I don't want them to either on ticky tack stuff, because of the inconsistency on some types of penalties. But when it's a penalty, you have to call it.
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After that non-call, they need to get rid of this rule. Way too subjective.
Going back to the UCLA game, Aiden Fisher took the hardest helmet to helmet hit and nothing was called.
West got ejected on one of the worst calls I've ever witnessed and Ponds was ejected for a shoulder pad to the helmet.
It's obvious that the officials are not smart enough (or, in some cases, unbiased enough) to figure out what is targeting and what is not.
Going back to the UCLA game, Aiden Fisher took the hardest helmet to helmet hit and nothing was called.
West got ejected on one of the worst calls I've ever witnessed and Ponds was ejected for a shoulder pad to the helmet.
It's obvious that the officials are not smart enough (or, in some cases, unbiased enough) to figure out what is targeting and what is not.
This wasn’t brought up by ESPN but my OSU friends. Ohio State opponents haven’t been called for holding this entire season and out of 136 FBS teams they rank 136 in penalties opposition a game.
Some Ohio State sites say 3 holds this season. So not sure why others claim zero. But if 3 is correct it seems absurdly low. I don't know if that means penalties accepted only, or flagged for. If OSU gets yardage anyway they may decline more than most teams.
They need to do away with targeting. It’s clear that the rule is impossible to enforce consistently by refs on the field. Penalize illegal hits like the NFL does. Plus, the it is a harsh outcome to the team and player if it is labeled targeting.
My biggest beef is that the rule penalizes players for plays that are not otherwise a penalty. The West one at UCLA is a great example. There is no penalty on that play, but it’s gets reviewed and called targeting.
My biggest beef is that the rule penalizes players for plays that are not otherwise a penalty. The West one at UCLA is a great example. There is no penalty on that play, but it’s gets reviewed and called targeting.
...or maybe play without helmets...or put skirts on offensive skill players...
Kinda kidding above but what if a targeting call is ascertained you lose 3 points for a penalty. Dumber rules have been installed.
Kinda kidding above but what if a targeting call is ascertained you lose 3 points for a penalty. Dumber rules have been installed.
Kelly_32 nailed it ! Someone more observant than me may be able to confirm but I think this was the same Big Ten officiating crew from the IU vs UCLA game and again when IU played Washington. They screwed things up throughout both games; with missed calls and/or fantom calls on both teams. The no call target on Fischer (UCLA game) and lack of pass interference (the early hit that caused the interception on IU's first possession after halftime against WASH) were two of the worst. I have no idea how a review on the play last night resulted in no targeting. I didn't have a dog in the fight but it was clearly targeting in my opinion.
Dispatch article from today actually stated it was just one.
No penalties called in first half of Ohio State-Oregon Rose Bowl football game
Ohio State football saw a trend continue as yet another opponent played what officials deemed a clean first half.
www.dispatch.com
How did that crew get picked for a playoff game?
The very second the announcers said these were B1G refs, I knew ASU was gonna get screwed somehow, someway. Didn't recognize them from those 2 games you mentioned, but you are probably spot on. The calls Kelly_32 outlined were atrocious and could have been game-changers had IU not been outright dominant.
They are clowns that are only out there for entertainment purposes and not a fair athletic contest. Why are they never required to be interviewed after the game? Coaches are. Players are. How the hell do they get a free pass?
Always follow the money. Especially these days. That said, I think IU has traditionally got screwed virtually everytime they've ever played OSU or Michigan. Hell, a lot of times it happens against Iowa and Penn State too.
Well that says the only time an opponent was "flagged and assessed 10 yards" . So apparently means more holds have been called but were declined or they would just say flagged. Other sites though say still only 3 all year.Dispatch article from today actually stated it was just one.
No penalties called in first half of Ohio State-Oregon Rose Bowl football game
Ohio State football saw a trend continue as yet another opponent played what officials deemed a clean first half.www.dispatch.com
But anyway, for some reason yesterday people were saying zero all year. I think that should have been 'in the big ten' schedule. Which is insane. I guess Ohio State doesn't have athletes good enough to generate holds...
I saw an Oregon guy draped over the shoulders of an Ohio State lineman who was turning to look for another block as the RB went past him. Draped over the shoulders from behind with one arm on each side of the neck holding him back, both arms, riding his back, no call. I dislike Ohio State as much as anybody but that one was insane. As far as against their pass rush I didn't pay much attention but their fans were apoplectic.
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I’m not necessarily more observant than you are, but I know how to use google.
The three games you mentioned were officiated by three different officiating crews.
The crew headed by Larry Smith (referee) in the Peach Bowl had only one additional name that was similar to the crew he (Smith) led during the regular season.
I have not been able to determine if the replay official is presently affiliated with the Big Ten, or if bowl games have been routinely using different conference officials on field in contrast to the replay booth. I do know the replay official in yesterday’s Peach Bowl was formerly working with the Pac 12.
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