Surprising Take

[daddyhoosier]

To those who listened to CrimsonCast's Rutgers Reaction Pod was anybody else surprised to hear Doc basically asserting that the Athletic Department is not part of the issue. In essence he said they are sufficiently committed and supportive for Indiana to succeed - with success being defined as basically 6-6 and getting to a Bowl. I've never looked too hard at the behind the scenes politics because frankly I feel like most of what you hear is gossip from people pretending to know more than they actually know. So I have always taken what people say in this regard with a grain of salt.
But CTA gave a talk at his alma mater (Maranatha Baptist) where he flat out says that when he accepted the position as head coach he asked for assurances that he would be given sufficient support to succeed. That to me is a clear indicator that in CTA's assessment that was a potential issue.
Second I'm like 95 percent sure I've heard Doc say that Indiana wasn't willing to pony up and pay what was needed to get the Coordinators needed to succeed.
I was super surprised to hear Doc say it was total crap to suggest that the Athletic Department and the University itself might be part of the problem. The implication to me is that he believes CTA is the problem.
Don't get me wrong, at this point it is fair to wonder but if coach after coach fails to find long-term success you have to start wondering if they aren't being put in a position to succeed or even if there is a commitment to find success in the first place.

 

[IUNCAAChamps2012]

I think too often relationships and character are what is driving TA’s hires (and inability to fire). What’s a head scratcher is for the most important hires over the last couple of years, experience and/or recent success in the position has been absent (warren, Sheridan, and bell). No one on this board was excited about those hires based on success, they were all “well, TA must know what he is doing, we can trust him” type hires

 

[Charlesroast]

Historically the administration has been a big part of the problem. Mallory made some progress, despite his lackluster record on the field I think Dinardo at least shined some light on the problems with program support by the administration. Non-conference scheduling and money for assistants has improved. It appears now perhaps HC over compensation has created a problem. DeBoer’s two year $800,000 deal was a breakthrough. Unfortunately the misleading and stupid explanation regarding compensation around the Sheridan firing raises these questions again. Bell’s 2 year $700K package indicates administration willingness to support Coach Allen’s staff choices.

The podcast did raise some valid program questions that underscore the tough position IU football now occupies. ASSUMPTION Coach Allen’s buy out, like Coach Miller’s would be paid out over the remaining years of his contract and would be partially offset buy compensation he would receive from subsequent related employment. For this should result in a hit spread over 6 years in the Frost send off from Nebraska. We have a bit of a conundrum like the old Fram Oil commercial : Pay me now or pay me later. It is really hard to see how Coach Allen fixes the situation and weak fan support will only get weaker if the current situation continues over the next couple years.

In an attempt to insure I get no consideration for the AD position and stir the pot here even more here is my suggestion. Fire Allen, and hire Deland McCullough. Give him a five year deal with heavy incentives for him and staff for 6 wins and more for each win beyond that. I think he nows the game, and has connections to attract quality staff. I also believe given his background he could keep a lot of the last two recruiting classes here and add a key positions through the portal. While I would take Urban, Luke, or even Bobby Petrino the first 2 aren’t coming and no way IU would hire Bobby, or even Chuckie who was a ball boy here in his youth. There are HC’s at smaller schools that have shown capability that we could probably attract but could they recruit here? Head coaches need to be big picture guys and time and time again you see successful coordinators flop as Head men. We have had a fair share of those already.

 

[Kelly_32]

Historically the administration has been a big part of the problem. Mallory made some progress, despite his lackluster record on the field I think Dinardo at least shined some light on the problems with program support by the administration. Non-conference scheduling and money for assistants has improved. It appears now perhaps HC over compensation has created a problem. DeBoer’s two year $800,000 deal was a breakthrough. Unfortunately the misleading and stupid explanation regarding compensation around the Sheridan firing raises these questions again. Bell’s 2 year $700K package indicates administration willingness to support Coach Allen’s staff choices.

The podcast did raise some valid program questions that underscore the tough position IU football now occupies. ASSUMPTION Coach Allen’s buy out, like Coach Miller’s would be paid out over the remaining years of his contract and would be partially offset buy compensation he would receive from subsequent related employment. For this should result in a hit spread over 6 years in the Frost send off from Nebraska. We have a bit of a conundrum like the old Fram Oil commercial : Pay me now or pay me later. It is really hard to see how Coach Allen fixes the situation and weak fan support will only get weaker if the current situation continues over the next couple years.

In an attempt to insure I get no consideration for the AD position and stir the pot here even more here is my suggestion. Fire Allen, and hire Deland McCullough. Give him a five year deal with heavy incentives for him and staff for 6 wins and more for each win beyond that. I think he nows the game, and has connections to attract quality staff. I also believe given his background he could keep a lot of the last two recruiting classes here and add a key positions through the portal. While I would take Urban, Luke, or even Bobby Petrino the first 2 aren’t coming and no way IU would hire Bobby, or even Chuckie who was a ball boy here in his youth. There are HC’s at smaller schools that have shown capability that we could probably attract but could they recruit here? Head coaches need to be big picture guys and time and time again you see successful coordinators flop as Head men. We have had a fair share of those already.

Deland McCullough???

 

[76-1]

Deland McCullough???

Think I'd rather see how he fares as at least an Offensive Coordinator before I'd go that route... Just being a great guy and having had success as a position coach isn't enough to qualify anyone as a Head Coach in the Big Ten..., unless you just want to close your eyes and flip a coin... 😎

 

[RegionHoosiers]

Deland McCullough???

Wow. All he got done here is blow up the running back room. And probably more importantly, get his son at IU (for one year at least)

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

I am all in now on Matt Rhule. He had success at Temple and at Baylor before moving to Charlotte.

 

[jacksback]

To those who listened to CrimsonCast's Rutgers Reaction Pod was anybody else surprised to hear Doc basically asserting that the Athletic Department is not part of the issue. In essence he said they are sufficiently committed and supportive for Indiana to succeed - with success being defined as basically 6-6 and getting to a Bowl. I've never looked too hard at the behind the scenes politics because frankly I feel like most of what you hear is gossip from people pretending to know more than they actually know. So I have always taken what people say in this regard with a grain of salt.
But CTA gave a talk at his alma mater (Maranatha Baptist) where he flat out says that when he accepted the position as head coach he asked for assurances that he would be given sufficient support to succeed. That to me is a clear indicator that in CTA's assessment that was a potential issue.
Second I'm like 95 percent sure I've heard Doc say that Indiana wasn't willing to pony up and pay what was needed to get the Coordinators needed to succeed.
I was super surprised to hear Doc say it was total crap to suggest that the Athletic Department and the University itself might be part of the problem. The implication to me is that he believes CTA is the problem.
Don't get me wrong, at this point it is fair to wonder but if coach after coach fails to find long-term success you have to start wondering if they aren't being put in a position to succeed or even if there is a commitment to find success in the first place.

Being committed and supportive is hardly the issue. The issue is continued and long standing incompetence when it comes to hiring a coach. It's no different than a successful business or pro team or any other college program. Sustained success comes from good leadership and IU has been lacking in this department since forever.

 

[Charlesroast]

Deland McCullough???

well done

 

[welshman#]

To those who listened to CrimsonCast's Rutgers Reaction Pod was anybody else surprised to hear Doc basically asserting that the Athletic Department is not part of the issue. In essence he said they are sufficiently committed and supportive for Indiana to succeed - with success being defined as basically 6-6 and getting to a Bowl. I've never looked too hard at the behind the scenes politics because frankly I feel like most of what you hear is gossip from people pretending to know more than they actually know. So I have always taken what people say in this regard with a grain of salt.
But CTA gave a talk at his alma mater (Maranatha Baptist) where he flat out says that when he accepted the position as head coach he asked for assurances that he would be given sufficient support to succeed. That to me is a clear indicator that in CTA's assessment that was a potential issue.
Second I'm like 95 percent sure I've heard Doc say that Indiana wasn't willing to pony up and pay what was needed to get the Coordinators needed to succeed.
I was super surprised to hear Doc say it was total crap to suggest that the Athletic Department and the University itself might be part of the problem. The implication to me is that he believes CTA is the problem.
Don't get me wrong, at this point it is fair to wonder but if coach after coach fails to find long-term success you have to start wondering if they aren't being put in a position to succeed or even if there is a commitment to find success in the first place.

To me it defies logic to assert that Allen is a problem but the Admin (as represented by Glass & Dolson) that naively and amateurishly promoted him instead of doing a national search, and then painted itself into a $25 million corner with the new deal it gave him, isn’t also part of the problem

 

[Charlesroast]

Think I'd rather see how he fares as at least an Offensive Coordinator before I'd go that route... Just being a great guy and having had success as a position coach isn't enough to qualify anyone as a Head Coach in the Big Ten..., unless you just want to close your eyes and flip a coin... 😎

Without more lengthy research I will offer that Kevin Wilson was the best prepared and most attractive OC we have hired. As the link shows he had years of preparation under well respected coaches and was the product of a national search conducted by a well respected Chuck Neinas. While I believe he moved the program forward he had issues and the question remains if he is HC material beyond the personal issues.

My eyes are open, we are in a bad position. There are no guarantees with any move IU makes. Coach McCullough offers some potential short stabilizing at a relatively low risk versus hoping Allen can fix this, IMO.

 

[Charlesroast]

To me it defies logic to assert that Allen is a problem but the Admin (as represented by Glass & Dolson) that naively and amateurishly promoted him instead of doing a national search, and then painted itself into a $25 million corner with the new deal it gave him, isn’t also part of the problem

No doubt, they rolled the dice and it came up snake eyes. But while retrospect suggests the move failed, they did open the check book and take a shot. This is a huge difference from years of not only limiting spending but actually sucking $ out of the football program by charging the program out of state rates for scholarship players.

 

[Charlesroast]

I am all in now on Matt Rhule. He had success at Temple and at Baylor before moving to Charlotte.

In a heartbeat if he would come!

 

[Victorbmyboy]

With the B1G expanding and more money than ever being thrown around it might make sense to pony up very soon. I’m not convinced that IU just sits around this time. We might see a move soon. Time will tell. It’s still IU but this feels different.

 

[welshman#]

No doubt, they rolled the dice and it came up snake eyes. But while retrospect suggests the move failed, they did open the check book and take a shot. This is a huge difference from years of not only limiting spending but actually sucking $ out of the football program by charging the program out of state rates for scholarship players.

They opened the check book and then spent it on someone with no collegiate head-coaching experience instead of doing a bona fide search for someone with a track record. IMO the fact that they spent the money doesn’t absolve Glass and Dolson from the increasing likelihood that they appear to have spent it unwisely.

 

[daddyhoosier]

Regarding the coordinator question CC responded thusly:

 

[Victorbmyboy]

They opened the check book and then spent it on someone with no collegiate head-coaching experience instead of doing a bona fide search for someone with a track record. IMO the fact that they spent the money doesn’t absolve Glass and Dolson from the increasing likelihood that they appear to have spent it unwisely.

I’m wondering if this helps in searches moving forward. Showing IU is willing to pay. Just a thought.

 

[Tegray1]

In a heartbeat if he would come!

Charlotte looked great with out him yesterday. He wanted Baker Mayfield.

 

[Tegray1]

No doubt, they rolled the dice and it came up snake eyes. But while retrospect suggests the move failed, they did open the check book and take a shot. This is a huge difference from years of not only limiting spending but actually sucking $ out of the football program by charging the program out of state rates for scholarship players.

The contract isn't that bad. Look at Mel Tucker, Ferentz, Mario Cristobal, and Jimbo Fisher.

 

[welshman#]

With the B1G expanding and more money than ever being thrown around it might make sense to pony up very soon. I’m not convinced that IU just sits around this time. We might see a move soon. Time will tell. It’s still IU but this feels

With the B1G expanding and more money than ever being thrown around it might make sense to pony up very soon. I’m not convinced that IU just sits around this time. We might see a move soon. Time will tell. It’s still IU but this feels different.

Not sure Dolson sees things the same way: Dolson’s reaction to new tv deal

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Not sure Dolson sees things the same way: Dolson’s reaction to new tv deal

It won’t load.
edit: I’m sure it’s the one singing praises and process. That doesn’t mean he’s safe or not willing to pull the trigger.

 

[welshman#]

I’m wondering if this helps in searches moving forward. Showing IU is willing to pay. Just a thought.

I think it definitely helps—if nothing else it tells a search firm what caliber of applicants they can realistically pursue

 

[welshman#]

It won’t load.

My bad. Essentially Dolson talks about how a lot of the money from the new tv deal is “backloaded” and how he feels as though, in some ways, it’s already been spent. Not very encouraging.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

My bad. Essentially Dolson talks about how a lot of the money from the new tv deal is “backloaded” and how he feels as though, in some ways, it’s already been spent. Not very encouraging.

I read it was back loaded but I think I saw the full amounts start in 2 years. I also saw more negotiations are happening because it’s kind of an open contract if more partners and teams join.

 

[indy1203]

To those who listened to CrimsonCast's Rutgers Reaction Pod was anybody else surprised to hear Doc basically asserting that the Athletic Department is not part of the issue. In essence he said they are sufficiently committed and supportive for Indiana to succeed - with success being defined as basically 6-6 and getting to a Bowl. I've never looked too hard at the behind the scenes politics because frankly I feel like most of what you hear is gossip from people pretending to know more than they actually know. So I have always taken what people say in this regard with a grain of salt.
But CTA gave a talk at his alma mater (Maranatha Baptist) where he flat out says that when he accepted the position as head coach he asked for assurances that he would be given sufficient support to succeed. That to me is a clear indicator that in CTA's assessment that was a potential issue.
Second I'm like 95 percent sure I've heard Doc say that Indiana wasn't willing to pony up and pay what was needed to get the Coordinators needed to succeed.
I was super surprised to hear Doc say it was total crap to suggest that the Athletic Department and the University itself might be part of the problem. The implication to me is that he believes CTA is the problem.
Don't get me wrong, at this point it is fair to wonder but if coach after coach fails to find long-term success you have to start wondering if they aren't being put in a position to succeed or even if there is a commitment to find success in the first place.

Lee Corso said the same thing on air during one of IU's coaching
searches, he said he would advise coaches not to go to Indiana.

 

[welshman#]

I read it was back loaded but I think I saw the full amounts start in 2 years. I also saw more negotiations are happening because it’s kind of an open contract if more partners and teams join.

I assume the prospect of adding UW and Oregon has upped the ante for all parties involved.

 

[IndyIUFan66]

To me it defies logic to assert that Allen is a problem but the Admin (as represented by Glass & Dolson) that naively and amateurishly promoted him instead of doing a national search, and then painted itself into a $25 million corner with the new deal it gave him, isn’t also part of the problem

As good of a year as Allen had had (maybe two I guess, but one being COVID shortened one) this extension should have been like Harbaugh’s “demotion” contract extension that was hugely about incentives. He took them to the National Championship final four and think he was rightfully well compensated. NO ONE was so trying to steal Tom Allen that we had to handcuff ourselves with a $25M buyout! (Hell, some would tank just to get that!). He should have been base about 5-7th highest paid coach with great incentives that could have gotten him easily into top 5 if IU kept winning. Too rich of a buyout deal component, based on not a long enough proven track record of success, and not. Early enough incentive driven components that IU then would happily pay if he hit them. #RookieAD?

 

[Tegray1]

As good of a year as Allen had had (maybe two I guess, but one being COVID shortened one) this extension should have been like Harbaugh’s “demotion” contract extension that was hugely about incentives. He took them to the National Championship final four and think he was rightfully well compensated. NO ONE was so trying to steal Tom Allen that we had to handcuff ourselves with a $25M buyout! (Hell, some would tank just to get that!). He should have been base about 5-7th highest paid coach with great incentives that could have gotten him easily into top 5 if IU kept winning. Too rich of a buyout deal component, based on not a long enough proven track record of success, and not. Early enough incentive driven components that IU then would happily pay if he hit them. #RookieAD?

That's the game. Mel Tucker had one good year and got 10 years and 95 million totally guaranteed.

 

[oldcougar77]

Without more lengthy research I will offer that Kevin Wilson was the best prepared and most attractive OC we have hired. As the link shows he had years of preparation under well respected coaches and was the product of a national search conducted by a well respected Chuck Neinas. While I believe he moved the program forward he had issues and the question remains if he is HC material beyond the personal issues.

My eyes are open, we are in a bad position. There are no guarantees with any move IU makes. Coach McCullough offers some potential short stabilizing at a relatively low risk versus hoping Allen can fix this, IMO.

The biggest career mistake Kevin Wilson made was not bolting the day the current conference divisions were established. While he was trying to build a football program, the admin sold him out. Agreeing to cut an OOC game and saddling your head coach with three guaranteed conference losses ( and likely four given MSU's strength at the time) every year was disastrous for a program like ours trying to escape the bottom. I know that he created much of his own mess that led to his firing, but it was more than cruel to throw him to the wolves by agreeing to that arrangement.

Money drives everything of course, and every other sport at IU has benefitted from the Big Ten windfall, but it has been an anchor wrapped around the neck of the football program - upgraded facilities notwithstanding. Having winning records and making bowl games drives recruiting and begats more winning. If having a football team that isn't a doormat and a national joke was important to the powers that be at IU, they would have said sayonara and headed to the ACC or Big Twelve before consenting to be the lamb in the wolf den.

 

[76-1]

If we're going down the road of "completely unlikely to ever happen but here's what I'd hope for" than here's what "I would do" if I were Scott Dolson...:

I'd ask Tom Allen to renegotiate his contract, abdicate the Head Coaching position and move to Defensive Coordinator/ Linebackers Coach full time... (that's where his heart is and he clearly hasn't completely grown into the Head Coaching position [its a Win/Win for all involved]...).

I'd hire Chris Creighton as Head Coach/co-OC -

Chris Creighton - Football Coach - Eastern Michigan University Athletics

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I'd have Creighton bring Mike Piatkowski with him as QB's/ co-OC

Mike Piatkowski - Football Coach - Eastern Michigan University Athletics

Entering his fifth year at EMU is Mike Piatkowski, who was a record-setting quarterback at Drake University. Piatkowski serves as EMU’s quarterbacks coach as well

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I'd move our TE's Coach to RB's Coach... l like our current RB's Coach but his going along with starting Shivers over Henderson; along with greenlighting that Inside Blast play routinely utilizing our two munchin speedsters [who average about 0.9 per carry on that play between them] over using Henderson on the same play instead tells me we need to look elsewhere and Wright is invaluable as our Walk On Program Coordinator...

I'd pay whatever we need to pay to keep Carey as OL Coach/Run Game Coordinator...(perhaps add Associate Head Coach to that Title list).

I'd move Friend over from Analyst to assist Carey with the OL (titled as: T/TE's Coach...).

I'd attempt to keep our WR's Coach as Co-OC/Asst. HC and hope we'd see more results similar to Campers breakout season next fall after he's able to get some of his own recruits and transfers on hand to work with...


That gives us -

On the Offensive Side:

Chris Creighton as *HC/co-OC (from E Mi)

Mike Piakowski as QB's /co-OC (from E Mi)

Adam Henry as Assistant Head Coach/ WR's / co-OC

Kevin Wright as RB's/Walk On Coordinator

Rod Carey as OL/Run Game Coordinator/Assoc.HC

Dan Friend as T/TE's Coach

\\\\\\\__________////////

On the Defensive Side:

Tom Allen as Defensive Coordinator/ LBs Coach

Brandon Shelby as CB/S's Coach

Kasey Teagarden as Special Teams/OLB's Coach

Chad Wilt as DE's Coach

Paul Randolph as DT's Coach


***Guys cut loose:

Safeties Coach Jason Jones (our Safeties play this season was some of the worst I've seen in decades)...

Walt Bell QB's/OC

Craig Johnson Associate Head Coach/ RB's


This keeps our recruiting contacts relatively intact while cutting out the dead wood and bolstering the coaching focus on both the Offensive and Defensive Lines...

**You're welcome SD and TA..., I just saved both your jobs long term and rejuvenated INDIANA FOOTBALL in the process...**

 

[kmathum]

If we're going down the road of "completely unlikely to ever happen but here's what I'd hope for" than here's what "I would do" if I were Scott Dolson...:

I'd ask Tom Allen to renegotiate his contract, abdicate the Head Coaching position and move to Defensive Coordinator/ Linebackers Coach full time... (that's where his heart is and he clearly hasn't completely grown into the Head Coaching position [its a Win/Win for all involved]...).

I'd hire Chris Creighton as Head Coach/co-OC -

Chris Creighton - Football Coach - Eastern Michigan University Athletics

Toughness. Pride. Resilience. These key words have come to describe EMU football as Chris Creighton enters his 11th season as the head man at Eastern Michigan in

emueagles.com

I'd have Creighton bring Mike Piatkowski with him as QB's/ co-OC

Mike Piatkowski - Football Coach - Eastern Michigan University Athletics

Entering his fifth year at EMU is Mike Piatkowski, who was a record-setting quarterback at Drake University. Piatkowski serves as EMU’s quarterbacks coach as well

emueagles.com

I'd move our TE's Coach to RB's Coach... l like our current RB's Coach but his going along with starting Shivers over Henderson; along with greenlighting that Inside Blast play routinely utilizing our two munchin speedsters [who average about 0.9 per carry on that play between them] over using Henderson on the same play instead tells me we need to look elsewhere and Wright is invaluable as our Walk On Program Coordinator...

I'd pay whatever we need to pay to keep Carey as OL Coach/Run Game Coordinator...(perhaps add Associate Head Coach to that Title list).

I'd move Friend over from Analyst to assist Carey with the OL (titled as: T/TE's Coach...).

I'd attempt to keep our WR's Coach as Co-OC/Asst. HC and hope we'd see more results similar to Campers breakout season next fall after he's able to get some of his own recruits and transfers on hand to work with...


That gives us -

On the Offensive Side:

Chris Creighton as *HC/co-OC (from E Mi)

Mike Piakowski as QB's /co-OC (from E Mi)

Adam Henry as Assistant Head Coach/ WR's / co-OC

Kevin Wright as RB's/Walk On Coordinator

Rod Carey as OL/Run Game Coordinator/Assoc.HC

Dan Friend as T/TE's Coach

\\\\\\\__________////////

On the Defensive Side:

Tom Allen as Defensive Coordinator/ LBs Coach

Brandon Shelby as CB/S's Coach

Kasey Teagarden as Special Teams/OLB's Coach

Chad Wilt as DE's Coach

Paul Randolph as DT's Coach


***Guys cut loose:

Safeties Coach Jason Jones (our Safeties play this season was some of the worst I've seen in decades)...

Walt Bell QB's/OC

Craig Johnson Associate Head Coach/ RB's


This keeps our recruiting contacts relatively intact while cutting out the dead wood...

**You're welcome SD and TA..., I just saved both your jobs long term and rejuvenated INDIANA FOOTBALL in the process...**

there's no way either allen or creighton agree to that. and they shouldn't.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Two points i will make from this thread

The conf divisions have done severe damage to IU's ability to become a competitive program.

No one thought Dolson would pull the trigger on Miller when he did, so don't count him out now or especially after the buyout comes down.

 

[kmathum]

Two points i will make from this thread

The conf divisions have done severe damage to IU's ability to become a competitive program.

No one thought Dolson would pull the trigger on Miller when he did, so don't count him out now or especially after the buyout comes down.

yeah, dolson shocked me once maybe he will again. he's got to be considering it, right?

 

[Tegray1]

If we're going down the road of "completely unlikely to ever happen but here's what I'd hope for" than here's what "I would do" if I were Scott Dolson...:

I'd ask Tom Allen to renegotiate his contract, abdicate the Head Coaching position and move to Defensive Coordinator/ Linebackers Coach full time... (that's where his heart is and he clearly hasn't completely grown into the Head Coaching position [its a Win/Win for all involved]...).

I'd hire Chris Creighton as Head Coach/co-OC -

Chris Creighton - Football Coach - Eastern Michigan University Athletics

Toughness. Pride. Resilience. These key words have come to describe EMU football as Chris Creighton enters his 11th season as the head man at Eastern Michigan in

emueagles.com

I'd have Creighton bring Mike Piatkowski with him as QB's/ co-OC

Mike Piatkowski - Football Coach - Eastern Michigan University Athletics

Entering his fifth year at EMU is Mike Piatkowski, who was a record-setting quarterback at Drake University. Piatkowski serves as EMU’s quarterbacks coach as well

emueagles.com

I'd move our TE's Coach to RB's Coach... l like our current RB's Coach but his going along with starting Shivers over Henderson; along with greenlighting that Inside Blast play routinely utilizing our two munchin speedsters [who average about 0.9 per carry on that play between them] over using Henderson on the same play instead tells me we need to look elsewhere and Wright is invaluable as our Walk On Program Coordinator...

I'd pay whatever we need to pay to keep Carey as OL Coach/Run Game Coordinator...(perhaps add Associate Head Coach to that Title list).

I'd move Friend over from Analyst to assist Carey with the OL (titled as: T/TE's Coach...).

I'd attempt to keep our WR's Coach as Co-OC/Asst. HC and hope we'd see more results similar to Campers breakout season next fall after he's able to get some of his own recruits and transfers on hand to work with...


That gives us -

On the Offensive Side:

Chris Creighton as *HC/co-OC (from E Mi)

Mike Piakowski as QB's /co-OC (from E Mi)

Adam Henry as Assistant Head Coach/ WR's / co-OC

Kevin Wright as RB's/Walk On Coordinator

Rod Carey as OL/Run Game Coordinator/Assoc.HC

Dan Friend as T/TE's Coach

\\\\\\\__________////////

On the Defensive Side:

Tom Allen as Defensive Coordinator/ LBs Coach

Brandon Shelby as CB/S's Coach

Kasey Teagarden as Special Teams/OLB's Coach

Chad Wilt as DE's Coach

Paul Randolph as DT's Coach


***Guys cut loose:

Safeties Coach Jason Jones (our Safeties play this season was some of the worst I've seen in decades)...

Walt Bell QB's/OC

Craig Johnson Associate Head Coach/ RB's


This keeps our recruiting contacts relatively intact while cutting out the dead wood and bolstering the coaching focus on both the Offensive and Defensive Lines...

**You're welcome SD and TA..., I just saved both your jobs long term and rejuvenated INDIANA FOOTBALL in the process...**

Creighton can't even control the MAC.

 

[Tegray1]

Two points i will make from this thread

The conf divisions have done severe damage to IU's ability to become a competitive program.

No one thought Dolson would pull the trigger on Miller when he did, so don't count him out now or especially after the buyout comes down.

Everyone thought he would when IU got booed off the floor in Indy. They hadn't physically been to the NCAA in his whole tenure.

 

[Tegray1]

Two points i will make from this thread

The conf divisions have done severe damage to IU's ability to become a competitive program.

No one thought Dolson would pull the trigger on Miller when he did, so don't count him out now or especially after the buyout comes down.

The divisions are going away next year. IU will get a better schedule.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

The divisions are going away year after next. IU will get a better schedule.

Year after next. Fify

 

[Radio Zero]

Everyone thought he would when IU got booed off the floor in Indy. They hadn't physically been to the NCAA in his whole tenure.

Calling it a day after year four of AM wasn’t any kind of tough call. The following season would have been incredibly ugly - probably on the court, but without question in the stands and over the airwaves. Couldn’t happen.

 

[RegionHoosiers]

Everyone thought he would when IU got booed off the floor in Indy. They hadn't physically been to the NCAA in his whole tenure.

I don't think most expected IU to pay that buyout especially after COVID, but also most didn't expect a donor to cover it.

 

[76-1]

Creighton can't even control the MAC.

Anyone who can consistently win at Eastern Michigan can flat out Coach... That's one of the toughest jobs in all of college football... Which makes him exactly the guy we need...