Coach ain't gonna like that....
I;m just glad that Airline Pilots don't practice flying like attorneys practice law and doctors practice medicine...
Sure looks to me as if we've handed the country over to a few billionaire white men and Vivek.
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I;m just glad that Airline Pilots don't practice flying like attorneys practice law and doctors practice medicine...
I'm not sure you're replying to the point he's trying to make here. That Trump gained in minority voters doesn't negate the idea that there is extreme wealth inequality.
How do you figure? it seems to me that the election results would suggest otherwise.
I saw this as well and the algorithim gave me a few more.
It's Josh Hawley. Champion of the little guy. What ****ing world are we living in where I see that jackass grilling somebody and go "yeah, get him".
Got the airline and credit cards execs pretty good too.
My assumption is the Dems were there right along side him right? Right?
You guys still don’t get it….who made gains with working class Americans (no matter race or ethnicity)?
We even have a thread about this. Democrats have left moderate voters.
They'll buy whoever they need to, regardless of party.
But in 2024 corporate America donated more to the GOP:
You'll have to ask @outside shooter what he specifically meant by his comment, but I didn't take it to mean he was talking about voting demographics. Yes, Trump gained in working class voters. That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with leadership governance roles he's filling.
His post was about CEO pay in the country vs average worker and then compared to other countries.
Average worker moved towards the GOP. Why?
Do you think that was because CEO pay is so much higher than the average workers' pay?
Cool.
Now (as a renowned virologist, cancer researcher, or whatever you say you're doing for a living now), compare your salary to those who clean your labs and the hallways and post the result.
Wouldn't make more sense to say that he should compare the difference between his salary and the janitors with the gaps between scientists and janitors in other countries?
No one is saying CEOs shouldn't make more money. I think OS's point was that the gap between CEO pay and their employees is way bigger in the US than in other places.
What does this matter?
When the average Mississippi resident is richer than the average Jap, German, Frenchmen, or Italian pointing to supposed inequality is meaningless. Pointing to someone else’s wealth and complaining when your standard of living in continually improving.
There are words for that. They’re called greed and jealousy.
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That's cool if that's what he's thinking.
If we're gonna do that, we should also factor in the valuations of those companies by country. CEO's jobs are basically to creat shareholder value, so lets add that metric.
It's a helluva lot closer to 1:1 than it is to 475:1. My best guess would be about 5:1.
The point was the 475:1 number is ridiculous and far out of line with the entire world.
What I do for a living is pretty clear, asshole. I am a medicinal chemist. I have worked in pharma and academia, in many disease areas, including cancer, neurodegeneration, pain, and (most recently) antiviral drug discovery (not in the area of vaccines, but in therapeutics). IU PhD 1991.
Asshole is the best you can come up with after breaking your " I have him on ignore" cover?
5:1 is kinda funny. You must be one of the most sorely underpaid Ivy league degreee holder on here.
Excuse me for clicking on "show ignored content" to see exactly which asshole was quoting me. I sometimes imagine it might be worthwhile, but I should know better. With you it is always pure drivel.
That's not how ignore works, but we'll let it slide. I'm sure you meant to say "which asshole Ohioguy was quoting".
Nope, post #52 you quoted me. What I see is that I was quoted by someone on my ignore list of prominent assholes, and I see "You are ignoring content by this member. Show ignored content"
OK, no more clicking for me on show ignored content.
The ignore list is great but it has its weaknesses. For example, I miss entire threads such as the Trump haircut thread, unless I occasionally go to the bottom and pick "show ignored content" for the entire forum. Not ideal, since all of the assholes posting drivel, not just you, show up all at once. I ought to just assume that any thread started by assholes like you can be dismissed.
At least I'm a prominent asshole. It's a start and I'll take it.
Stop liking my posts that don't quote you if you really want to keep the charade going.
Stop liking my posts that don't quote you if you really want to keep the charade going.
To state it’s ridiculous. You must believe one of.
A. American CEO’s are over compensated
B. American employees are under compensated
C. Both A&B
You haven’t been able to demonstrate that at all other than pointing to international CEO’s of companies that are generally lower performing, less profitable and less innovative.
We have the best companies and CEO’s in the world. That demands a high price. Most of their comp packages are performance based. They perform well.
You haven’t made any kind of case for why the gap between CEO and employee pay is a problem. All you’ve done is winge and point at meaningless comparisons.
One of the great things about the American ethos as compared to the rest of the world is the ability to celebrate other’s success. To use it as an example to strive for. Tall poppy syndrome infects most of the rest of the western world. It’s why ther economies are stagnant.
I hate seeing that poisonous mindset espoused here
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That $75,000 raise (some say $70,000) is coming from Twitter Twits and it's false. The max raise would be $6,600 and they haven't had a cost of living increase for 15 years. The law is automatic, but those in Congress have been block that raise since 2009. No skin off my nose if they get it or not, but I'd really like to see an effort to argue for or something accurately. There's almost no effort here with many will to believe what their favorite Twitter Twits say without bothering to check on the facts:
"Members of Congress earn salaries of at least $174,000, with more allocated for some leadership positions. A cost-of-living increase is calculated based on private-sector wages. The maximum allowed for next year is 3.8%, which would bring the base salary to $180,600, according to the CRS report."
Members of Congress rolled a pay raise for themselves into big must-do spending bill • Idaho Capital Sun
Members of Congress are in line for their first pay raise since 2009 if they pass a spending measure that would avert a government shutdown.
idahocapitalsun.com
It's in several articles and in the CRS report as it says above.
Could have sworn I saw a Politico article saying $75k avg increase. Quick look on their site doesn't show it though.That $75,000 raise (some say $70,000) is coming from Twitter Twits and it's false. The max raise would be $6,600 and they haven't had a cost of living increase for 15 years. The law is automatic, but those in Congress have been block that raise since 2009. No skin off my nose if they get it or not, but I'd really like to see an effort to argue for or something accurately. There's almost no effort here with many will to believe what their favorite Twitter Twits say without bothering to check on the facts:
"Members of Congress earn salaries of at least $174,000, with more allocated for some leadership positions. A cost-of-living increase is calculated based on private-sector wages. The maximum allowed for next year is 3.8%, which would bring the base salary to $180,600, according to the CRS report."
Members of Congress rolled a pay raise for themselves into big must-do spending bill • Idaho Capital Sun
Members of Congress are in line for their first pay raise since 2009 if they pass a spending measure that would avert a government shutdown.
It's in several articles and in the CRS report as it says above.
Nope, $6,600 max. Two Twitter posts have been linked here saying $70K and $75K. It looked ludicrous so I checked, and it is ludicrous. $70K to $75K would put them up at the President's Salary or beyond. Extremely unlikely.
It looks like 70k might be the difference between the initial point of stopping them to what they'd be making now if they hadn't been stopped.
Wouldn’t be too hard to figure out going back 15 years and calculating the increase each year based on inflation. I’m not bothering at the moment. Articles did mention something like a 29% real wage decrease based on inflation.
Fck every one of them. Go do something else. Serve and move on. They make more than enough. Fcking worthless people
Get people the benes they need and shut down the gov. 1500 pages. They don’t even know what they’re signing
I just sorta guerilla matched it to come up with the guess.
Real wage decrease yet they'll cut each other's throat for the position. Sounds like we could reduce their salary
Think about what country is so far ahead of the entire world when to come to innovation, whether it is technology, healthcare, finance etc.
The answer to your dumb ass post will lie within
Amazing that the US has wildly over performed every one of those countries in last few decades. You listed 3 countries that are literally failed states. 3 sad euro countries that have nothing going for them. Japan that's been in financial doldrums for 30 years. The UK that's been killed by Brexit. And Canada that's basically a US dependent state
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