ADVERTISEMENT

Strength and conditioning

The word is that a replacement has already been confirmed:
It's David Ballou who was a former fullback at IU under Cameron and also involved with Avon high school strength program for a number of years.
Yep. Was at IMG and is currently at Notre Dame.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 76-1
Any great rumors about who he's planning to add to his staff??

Should I start some? ;)
 
Think the Avon hire is accurate and I like sounds of it. An Avon friend who knows him shared with me: “What he teaches and how he trains guys works. Anyone can say "go lift" or "add more weight." He builds specific plans that work”

His IMG Academy experience is about as state of the art as it gets and he’s been at ND.

Looks like a home run, and another example of Tom Allen getting his program vision and team in place.
 
I tend to blame a lot of the injuries we see today on over working the players all year around. I know there were always injuries but it seems like it is more of a problem today. I feel that the human body has to have some time off to recuperate and with year around training your body never has time to heal.
 
I tend to blame a lot of the injuries we see today on over working the players all year around. I know there were always injuries but it seems like it is more of a problem today. I feel that the human body has to have some time off to recuperate and with year around training your body never has time to heal.
Probably a moderate or easy workout between hard days would work. As a long distance runner I learned never hard 2 days in a row. You can build your muscles and conditioning safely and as quickly in my experience.
 
In my experience 2-3 weeks is enough recovery time from a major lifting program.

Like Hill had them doing evidently, some structured light work is still a good idea to simply maintain your gains...

As long as we don't have a bunch of lazy morons (and I don't think we do) we shouldn't have to worry about their doing their own workouts for a couple of weeks... With this team I'd be more concerned about them overdoing it...
 
Cannot over-emphasize nutrition and tactical strength training. Many years ago my girlfriend qualified for Nationals in swimming in colllwge and was on the US Olympic team as a windsurfer. She knew a hell of a lot about training for competition. It wasn't until a couple years ago that it all registered to me when she was inducted into her high school hall of fame for being on an Olympic team. At the high school ceremony there were 28 former students inducted who were members of US Olympic teams. Recruiting is only the beginning. Player development is what separates quality programs from everyone else.
 
Just to update the board, I talked to a current player today (so this is speculation), but heard that the current strength and conditioning coach got fired, and that players don’t have a workout plan for the month off during break. Got me thinking, if PU had a bowl game and took this past month to get bigger, stronger and faster for preparation, AND IU missed a bowl game and players aren’t seriously working out for the next month, that by default puts IU behind the curve headed into 18’ and is somewhat concerning.

The firing does show that Allen is willing to make a quick decision if he honestly see’s a problem, and I think many of you noticed before even I noticed that something was wrong with stregnth and conditioning when we had so many injuries. This kind of connects the dots for us. I don’t really blame Wilson, or Allen, but I’m starting to think that the theory some fans have is correct... going cheap may be hurting IU. I remember IU letting Mark Hill walk to Kentucky and not matching that offer, and it appears as if that was a terrible mistake. Deontay Mack (a former player at IU and strength coach), Lionel Anderson, and Will People’s were also allowed to walk and IU wasn’t going to match those offers. I had kind of brushed off the reality that going cheap may cost IU, but I guess this is a clear cut example, and Kuddos to posters who have highlighted that.

I wouldn’t put this on Wilson, or Allen per se, but obviously if this firing is true, Wilson made an error with his replacement for Hill, and CTA was kind of set up for failure in terms of Stregnth and conditioning. That can explain part of the reason as to why our line was WEAK, and why so many key players got injured. I remembered a comment that Ball was essentially doing his own workout routine and two workouts a day, and that sounded a bit reckless to me at the time way before he got injured... sounded like he didn’t really have guidance... and then he was one of the key injuries this year. Now it makes sense, and it’s somewhat concerning going into 18’ that these guys have had no organization for the past month, and no real workout setup. I know that when we missed bowls under coach Hill we still had an organized workout plan to complete when we went home for break, and clear goals when we got back to campus. Had a conditioning “test” to insure that we had completed the workouts. These guys don’t have that now, and it is somewhat a slap in the face to anyone who supports the program and just saw that Purdue took this time to get better, faster and stronger.
Thank God Lionel Anderson is gone...
 
Glad Anderson is gone! If we got a home run hire with this new guy we will be fine. This thread is the sky is falling type reaction. If I was a player I would know how to workout and what I need to work on for a few weeks.
 
Glad Anderson is gone! If we got a home run hire with this new guy we will be fine. This thread is the sky is falling type reaction. If I was a player I would know how to workout and what I need to work on for a few weeks.
Anderson was a good Stregnth and Conditioning coach within context. He was an excellent football stregnth and conditioning assistant. I agree that he probably didn’t have to toolstack to be a head dividision 1 basketball stregnth and conditioning coach. I’m glad for him, and IU basketball, that he’s out of that role. It didn’t make sense from where I stood that he would be in that role. But he was a good football stregnth guy, within the context of an assistants role.

I also think that the new hire for IU football appears to be a solid one. Avon is a decent program, but I think that this guy certainly took them to new levels in athlete developement. He also prioritizes in two areas that are probably the most important right now... Agility and Injury prevention. I also think that you get a little extra juice out of a Coach when they’re an alum. Not to say non alums can’t be good coaches, obviously that’s not the case, but I definitely notice extra juice when a guy is identified with the University and the State. It means a little bit more to them. CTA would’ve been hard pressed to find a better hire.

Lastly I don’t have confidence that guys are going to prepare on their own without some direction over break. YOU may have been able to as a player, however, my guys from my experience don’t. Even if they “tried” it usually isn’t a workout regimen that benefits them or prepares them for the rigors of winter conditioning. Again, I’d highlight Oregon last winter when three players ended up in the hospital. However, as I noted, the change had to take place if Allen wanted his guy in there, and the players being behind the chains can be offset by having this new guy in there who appears to be the real deal.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 76-1
Anderson was a good Stregnth and Conditioning coach within context. He was an excellent football stregnth and conditioning assistant. I agree that he probably didn’t have to toolstack to be a head dividision 1 basketball stregnth and conditioning coach. I’m glad for him, and IU basketball, that he’s out of that role. It didn’t make sense from where I stood that he would be in that role. But he was a good football stregnth guy, within the context of an assistants role.

I also think that the new hire for IU football appears to be a solid one. Avon is a decent program, but I think that this guy certainly took them to new levels in athlete developement. He also prioritizes in two areas that are probably the most important right now... Agility and Injury prevention. I also think that you get a little extra juice out of a Coach when they’re an alum. Not to say non alums can’t be good coaches, obviously that’s not the case, but I definitely notice extra juice when a guy is identified with the University and the State. It means a little bit more to them. CTA would’ve been hard pressed to find a better hire.

Lastly I don’t have confidence that guys are going to prepare on their own without some direction over break. YOU may have been able to as a player, however, my guys from my experience don’t. Even if they “tried” it usually isn’t a workout regimen that benefits them or prepares them for the rigors of winter conditioning. Again, I’d highlight Oregon last winter when three players ended up in the hospital. However, as I noted, the change had to take place if Allen wanted his guy in there, and the players being behind the chains can be offset by having this new guy in there who appears to be the real deal.
Does his relative lack of college level experience concern you, or do you consider that largely a non-issue?
 
Does his relative lack of college level experience concern you, or do you consider that largely a non-issue?

Considering the guy was at IMG Academy, which basically pulls in elite kids from across the country to play football and that school operates its program as close to a college level as anyone, I'd say it shouldn't be of concern. The guy has been in this for 16 years and his methods and programs he develops are very data-driven and individualized per player. His methods get rave reviews from everybody. ND was very happy with the guy. IMG is not your typical high school.
 
Does his relative lack of college level experience concern you, or do you consider that largely a non-issue?
I agree with Crimson Crush. He may not have a ton of college experience but has worked at the elite levels. His emphasis also seem to fit perfectly in line with where our team is struggling. I think that anyone in his position would have a learning curve coming in as a D1 stregnth and conditioning coach, but I think that on balance this is a good hire, so that offsets my concern about his “youth.” But as crimson said, he’s still got 16 years in the game with data-driven methods
 
  • Like
Reactions: 76-1
According to USA Today Mark Hill made $205,000, same as or guy this past year...

I say pay him $305,000 (similar to WI $) and increase his staff budget in the amounts he thinks is needed and let's get Mark Hill back and this thing back on track...

Strength and Conditioning is the very foundation of big time Big Ten Football. We can't go penny wise and pound foolish on this hire.

The way the rules are set up the Strength and Conditioning Coach actually spends more time with the team then any other coach. Calling he and his staff Key Personel is a bit of an understatement...

Come on Fred. Get this rehire done...
I'd rather have a nice flag pole
Flag pole was donated Moron. Get your facts straight.
 
  • Like
Reactions: crossfire74
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT