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Stephen Zimmerman? Thomas Bryant?

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Does anyone know anything about these 2 guys and where they plan on going? Both great centers in the ESPN top 100. They are both considering IU. I'm guessing they love how much Crean develops his big men (NOT) Big center would help us a ton on the defensive side. If only we had Fischer or Lyles. Thanks!

Correct me if I'm doing anything wrong or different... New to this

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Last I read

Bryant was down to IU, Mizzou, Syracuse, and UK. His mom wants him to go to 'Cuse but pending allegations who knows? I would say IU is on outside looking in. We will see.
 
who would they play against in practice to develop? Hartman?

No bigs considering IU right now.
 
Do some research....

or check the other sites but IU has made up ground on TB after Zags article quoting his Mother came out.

Are we a favorite? No. Are we in the 50/50 conversation? Yes.
 
In November Zimmerman visited


Arizona and at this point he looks like a commit there.

Bryant visited IU in October, but made no commitment.
 
My question is who would they practice against? Lyles was smart

You don't get better as a big man playing at IU right now no big men will come. Did you watch the Purdue game? Hartman on hammonds.
 
Who did NV practice against last year?

Pardon me...but I believe I'll take the word of Michael Jordan had to say about Zeller and Vonleh as it relates to their college preparation. Drafting IU bigs with their 1st round choice speaks volumes. Have a good one.
 
Simply not true

Bryant is certainly considering IU right now. Granted, I don't see him coming here, but he is considering us.
 
Check his quotes in Kwame Brown

People on there think Jordan Is a good evaluator of basketball talent? Man the basketball IQ around here is so low.

This post was edited on 2/4 8:53 AM by IU3
 
Next years big man won't be either of these two but TC will have a quality big for next season. Bank on it.
 
Fischer is at Marquette because.....

.....the kid didn't have the patience to wait his turn at IU.
If he had held on a little longer, he would have been a key factor this season but he wanted instant, major minutes and starts.
Oddly enough, Fischer didn't get his first start at Marquette until January 3 of this year.
He was coming off the bench before that.

I always felt the kid didn't let things develop at IU. Maybe he got here and didn't like the chemistry?
 
Nice reach. Jordan wanted Brand...

We do agree though. Basketball IQ around here is low. Thanks for keeping those numbers up.!

This post was edited on 2/4 7:41 AM by Tony20
 
Re: The reason he did not start until Jan 3

Bank on CTC having a quality big for next year? Really? I am not banking it!! If anything I could see him taking another wing.
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Where did I say anything


about banking on CTC having another big. all I stated is the reason that Fischer did not start until Jan 3rd was that he was a mid year transfer.
 
Re: who would they play against in practice to develop? Hartman?

Who does Kaminski practice against? Development, at the college level, is as much mental and physical as it is on-the-floor abilities. The latter can best be attained through the development of the physical and mental parts of the game.

One thing most people forget, or don't want to remember, is how was any of Wisconsin's starters as freshmen. Do you remember any of them having to be key in Wisconsin's fortunes? Kaminski didn't see the floor much even as a sophomore. Yet, there are fans here who question why we have bigs sitting on the IU bench, when they know Kaminski did for almost two years.Their kids are more physical and better prepared mentally because of experience and age. It's a little like being new to a job you're not fully prepared for. As a leader of people, in any sport or business calling for continued success, would you rather have an experienced staff as your most valuable players or one of mostly new hires?

Crean's best has been mostly new hires who have gone on to better jobs rather than mature with the one at IU. Their maturation is now happening at the NBA level. With those at UW, the maturation process has/is four years or more, while at IU, it's been less with the better players.

Some will point to all the kids who left IU early, those who didn't go to the NBA. Give us names of those who you think would have started for this team this year. Which of them are starting at a school rated higher than IU currently is?

The depths to which IU basketball sank was beyond a fan's wildest imagination. In fact, it became a new, fledgling business. All of our players were new to the business, the first of which were not top-rated candidates to begin with, and as the recruiting became better, the best soon went after much more attractive jobs than those at IU.

As good a coach as he is, Bop Ryan stepped into a veteran situation, one that had been to a Final Four a year or so earlier. He's kept it that way playing mostly junior and seniors, a few who have been red-shirted, while allowing the freshmen and sophs to develop in their own time.

Crean, to date, hasn't had that luxury.
 
I think he needs to focus on a solid big man... So far we've picked up a weak power forward and a decent small forward. Doesn't look like the best recruiting class this year. Hope for the best next year! Thanks for the comments and feedback.

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Who does Kaminski practice against? They have 2 addl guys on their roster

that are 6'9, 3 more that are 6'8" plus Hayes who plays in the paint at 6'7". That's a program, like most top 50 programs that recognizes the value of size and post presence and having backups and developing players. They also have a primary PG and are starting their backup PG now, plus having a walkon PG that played last night too. That's how a smart coach uses his 13 roster spots: starters and backups at all key positions spread across the classes and then round it out with players to develop. As opposed to a roster where 80% of it is devoted to wings and you have no depth at PG or in the post.

You mention our bigs "sitting on the bench" like they will be developed, and yet most on here believe they will be gone next year. How confident are you that they'll be here for 4 years?
 
Re: Who does Kaminski practice against? They have 2 addl guys on their roster


With all that big man backup, why did Wisconsin lose to Rutgers without Kaminski and their point guard?
 
It's conference play, and you're asking how they lost missing their 2 best

and most important players? Who would we beat without Yogi and JBJ?

Also, I love when people deflect from reality by changing the topic. No attempt to address our roster situation. No answer to my question. But, then, that does answer it doesn't it?
 
Re: Simply not true

Bryant was set to go to Syracuse where granny wanted him to go...Not sure now, but his mother was not happy with yogi and couple others trouble..Said they would not even have visited IU had they known..I think he'll be a Cat if Cal offers...Don't think UK offers though.I'm hoping for Rabb and Zimmerman as the 2 other bigs
Originally posted by IU40IU:
Bryant is certainly considering IU right now. Granted, I don't see him coming here, but he is considering us.
 
I didn't change the subject....

You related to bigs that Wisc. has on the bench who push Kaminski in practice. If they have talent that can push Kaminski, I haven't seen it, just as I didn't see Kaminski pushing anyone when he was a freshman. He didn't see the floor that much until his junior year.

There's little reason to address the roster situation when neither you nor I can do anything about it. I can remember when IU finished second in the Big-10 in 85/86 and the starting lineup was Alford, D. Thomas, R. Calloway, A Harris, and W. Morgan, only one being as tall as 6'7".

RMK adjusted by going out the following year and getting Smart and Garrett from JC's. I'd like to see Crean do something similar in regards to bringing in a veteran big. We all know how that worked out for RMK, however there has to be a Garrett out there for it to be possible. I also think it would be a good way to even out some of the classes, enabling IU to put some veterans on the floor sooner rather than later.
 
Re: I didn't change the subject....

Who are these jucos? I'm a premium member and don't see jucos listed on the latest hot board
 
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