Sounds like it is done.

[IUNorth]

Not sure how you can make McCollum an A- and Devries a C+. Not at this point at least. McCollum may very well end up better, but not by a while letter grade at this point.

I would give McCollum A-, and DeVries B-...or maybe incomplete grade for DeVries, actually.

I get the concerns with his D2 record, not being applicable to high major D1 basketball. But you can't just ignore that those seasons and accomplishments happened. And then when you actually read up on him, and listen to him talk...at least for me, it solidifies those accomplishments, and gives context and ideas on how they happened.

DeVries has a lot shorter head coaching history, and hasn't accomplished nearly as much as McCollum has. He does have 1 year of high major ball now under his belt. And I think his team's performance pre/Tucker injury, shows that he's capable of making that step up fairly successfully.

But his resume isn't even close to the same level as McCollum's is.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Not sure how you can make McCollum an A- and Devries a C+. Not at this point at least. McCollum may very well end up better, but not by a while letter grade at this point.

I'd give him a C+ as a coach, but its a below average hire. I'd give SD a D for the hire.

 

[bailey777]

I haven't watched DD's teams enough to give him a grade, but McCollum would be an A in my book.

I would not even give McCullom a grade because he only has one year of experience at a mid major. But I do recall all the national media graded the archie hire an A so even if they gave it an A means nothing to me because mid major hires are a total crap shoot.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

I would give McCollum A-, and DeVries B-...or maybe incomplete grade for DeVries, actually.

I get the concerns with his D2 record, not being applicable to high major D1 basketball. But you can't just ignore that those seasons and accomplishments happened. And then when you actually read up on him, and listen to him talk...at least for me, it solidifies those accomplishments, and gives context and ideas on how they happened.

DeVries has a lot shorter head coaching history, and hasn't accomplished nearly as much as McCollum has. He does have 1 year of high major ball now under his belt. And I think his team's performance pre/Tucker injury, shows that he's capable of making that step up fairly successfully.

But his resume isn't even close to the same level as McCollum's is.

I hope its misinformation...........

 

[GThomas]

I would not even give McCullom a grade because he only has one year of experience at a mid major. But I do recall all the national media graded the archie hire an A so even if they gave it an A means nothing to me because mid major hires are a total crap shoot.

I understand why people put BMC in the same sentence as Archie. I totally get it.

I admit, I thought Archie was a good hire ... but I never said to myself, "AM is THE guy." I believe McCollum is the real deal ... THE guy. Simply my perspective.

 

[IUgradman]

DeVries will not win a national title at IU. Cignetti is closer to winning a national title than IU basketball ever will be again.

 

[edub72]

If DeVries is hired it’s a complete joke. IU is no longer any type of blue blood

 

[IUNorth]

If DeVries is hired it’s a complete joke. IU is no longer any type of blue blood

Have to admit, I'd be a tad disappointed with the hire, if its him. But with both him or Brownell, I'd still be hopeful for consistently better days than we've experienced in a long time. And further hopeful that when that happens, that consistency paired with IU's resources, will work to push the program forward even more.

Id rather have a number of guys that those two, but both of them would likely be pretty good overall coaches for IU.

 

[IUPaterade724]

DeVries will not win a national title at IU. Cignetti is closer to winning a national title than IU basketball ever will be again.

Who hurt you?

 

[mushroomgod_1]

I would give McCollum A-, and DeVries B-...or maybe incomplete grade for DeVries, actually.

I get the concerns with his D2 record, not being applicable to high major D1 basketball. But you can't just ignore that those seasons and accomplishments happened. And then when you actually read up on him, and listen to him talk...at least for me, it solidifies those accomplishments, and gives context and ideas on how they happened.

DeVries has a lot shorter head coaching history, and hasn't accomplished nearly as much as McCollum has. He does have 1 year of high major ball now under his belt. And I think his team's performance pre/Tucker injury, shows that he's capable of making that step up fairly successfully.

But his resume isn't even close to the same level as McCollum's is.

Just going by his record........pretty comparable to Josh Schertz. probably not as good. DD finished 2nd to Schertz in 23'-24', and Indiana State was likely a bigger dumpster fire than Drake when Shertz took over.

 

[IUNorth]

Just going by his record........pretty comparable to Josh Schertz. probably not as good. DD finished 2nd to Schertz in 23'-24', and Indiana State was likely a bigger dumpster fire than Drake when Shertz took over.

Schertz is a very good basketball coach. He'll be a successful high major coach some day, I'm sure.

 

[UncleMark]

Who hurt you?

Fred banged his wife.

 

[UncleMark]

Just going by his record........pretty comparable to Josh Schertz. probably not as good. DD finished 2nd to Schertz in 23'-24', and Indiana State was likely a bigger dumpster fire than Drake when Shertz took over.

Schertz is a very good basketball coach. He'll be a successful high major coach some day, I'm sure.

Could it be Schertz?

 

[bailey777]

I understand why people put BMC in the same sentence as Archie. I totally get it.

I admit, I thought Archie was a good hire ... but I never said to myself, "AM is THE guy." I believe McCollum is the real deal ... THE guy. Simply my perspective.

If DeVries is hired it’s a complete joke. IU is no longer any type of blue blood

It certainly sounds like that is who its going to be unless its all misdirection on purpose. I certainly thought we might do better given our massive NIL and resources but the bigger names we probably could get IU will not touch. And once again it looks like the guys on Btown Banners got totally played by their so called insiders about Stevens once again. I think the so called insiders are nothing but trolls.

 

[GThomas]

It certainly sounds like that is who its going to be unless its all misdirection on purpose. I certainly thought we might do better given our massive NIL and resources but the bigger names we probably could get IU will not touch. And once again it looks like the guys on Btown Banners got totally played by their so called insiders about Stevens once again. I think the so called insiders are nothing but trolls.

Three weeks ago it was Cronin. Two weeks ago it was TJO. A week ago it was Brownell. Two days ago it was McCollum. I don't buy any of it. If I'm wrong, the joke's on me and the rest of Hoosier Nation.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Yeah no shit. The new coach has signed his contract as had been reported by multiple sources including Rabjohns. Not sure what is confusing about that. It can be given to Whitten and the BOT for approval well after which is just a formality.

No

 

[IUNorth]

Three weeks ago it was Cronin. Two weeks ago it was TJO. A week ago it was Brownell. Two days ago it was McCollum. I don't buy any of it. If I'm wrong, the joke's on me and the rest of Hoosier Nation.

If basically all our last few searches teach us anything...its that we won't know until the last few moments before the official announcement. I guess maybe we're in those last few moments now?...if so, maybe DeVries then. But assuming not, then agree, "we" likely don't have a clue at this point.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Three weeks ago it was Cronin. Two weeks ago it was TJO. A week ago it was Brownell. Two days ago it was McCollum. I don't buy any of it. If I'm wrong, the joke's on me and the rest of Hoosier Nation.

Reading these coach threads is like getting stuck in a running clothes dryer.

 

[.Gerdis]

If basically all our last few searches teach us anything...it’s that we won't know until the last few moments before the official announcement. I guess maybe we're in those last few moments now?...if so, maybe DeVries then. But assuming not, then agree, "we" likely don't have a clue at this point.

“We” meaning IU? Or the people on this board?

 

[iubirdman]

If DeVries is hired it’s a complete joke. IU is no longer any type of blue blood

I think the DD talk is all from his agent trying to get a bigger offer from Iowa, same and the BB talk most likely coming from his agent to get a raise at Clemson.

As I have said many times, no one KNOWS anything except Dolson, the head of the search firm, maybe the President (guessing she at least has names of options), and the coaches and agents that have been contacted. Guessing as little as SD talks, if an agent leaked real info about the job, they are probably off the list!

 

[bailey777]

If basically all our last few searches teach us anything...its that we won't know until the last few moments before the official announcement. I guess maybe we're in those last few moments now?...if so, maybe DeVries then. But assuming not, then agree, "we" likely don't have a clue at this point.

And its usually a big let down. I hope its different this time.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

And its usually a big let down. I hope its different this time.

Watch DD's introductory PC at West Virginia.........yikes.

He apparently wants out there. Not sure why. His previous stops were lengthy.

 

[Vern Pain]

Watch DD's introductory PC at West Virginia.........yikes.

He apparently wants out there. Not sure why. His previous stops were lengthy.

Yeah, there's a lot going on there. Worked out for WVU though. They ended up with Belein which got them cleaned up and winning.

 

[BayernFan]

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I think the DD talk is all from his agent trying to get a bigger offer from Iowa, same and the BB talk most likely coming from his agent to get a raise at Clemson.

As I have said many times, no one KNOWS anything except Dolson, the head of the search firm, maybe the President (guessing she at least has names of options), and the coaches and agents that have been contacted. Guessing as little as SD talks, if an agent leaked real info about the job, they are probably off the list!

This is what people are missing. Coaches are using IU and other openings to increase their current gigs (May) or to leverage better offers from other open gigs.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

Trilly saying announcement coming w/in 24 hours?

 

[IUNorth]

“We” meaning IU? Or the people on this board?

People on this board...fans in general...

 

[IUNorth]

And its usually a big let down. I hope its different this time.

Archie wasn't a let down, at the time.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

This is what people are missing. Coaches are using IU and other openings to increase their current gigs (May) or to leverage better offers from other open gigs.

But if DeVries isn’t going to Iowa, who’s he leveraging? Iowa is his dream job.

 

[bailey777]

Archie wasn't a let down, at the time.

In a way he was I thought we were getting a bigger name. But I have learned my lesson on that one after getting Woodson.

 

[IUNorth]

But if DeVries isn’t going to Iowa, who’s he leveraging? Iowa is his dream job.

West Virginia...

 

[82IU]

I'm also open to Cat Stevens as coach. Maybe that moon shadow will stop following me around then.

Well Baby, baby it's a Wild World! Hope there's not Another Saturday Night and we ain't got nobody! LOL.
82

 

[Stuffshot]

Some of the more often mentioned names recently... my mid term grades.

Stevens 97
Wright with GM 96
McCasland 93
McCollum 92
Wright without GM 92
May 91
Beard 90
Otz 89
McDermott 83
Brownell 73

How were your prediction accuracies before you found out they were hiring:

Sampson
Crean
Miller
Woodson
or

Cignetti

Did you get any of these right, say, three days in advance?

IU has proven very good at keeping a secret.

 

[Spirito76]

Well Baby, baby it's a Wild World! Hope there's not Another Saturday Night and we ain't got nobody! LOL.
82

The team could have amazing sing-alongs around a campfire before the games.

 

[Stuffshot]

90%!

I think you are underestimating that number - more like 99.9% BS!

99.9% seems a little low to me.

 

[Stuffshot]

I'll be that guy-why would we want a guy who hasn't been on the bench in a decade and would be walking into an entirely different college basketball world than the one he left? Lambast away!

It won't be Stevens but, since you asked, Stevens was one of the first coaches to use metrics.

If metrics proves to be even just a little bit better than voodoo or coin-flipping, no matter how he uses it would probably still translate to present times.

 

[Stuffshot]

That is such a ridiculous story. Stevens slammed the door on ever coaching at IU four years ago during that press conference. He even called himself a Masshole. If he goes back to coaching in college it will be at Butler.

As I recall, Stevens was an officer at Lilly while also a volunteer coach at Butler.

Now, he's running the Celtics.

He won't be IU's next coach, but why does it make sense to claim a guy like that couldn't come to IU and figure it out?

 

[Stuffshot]

Maybe she’s being a good soldier? If she says she has that just opens the door for more questions.

So, it's possible she lied to you about meeting the coach you want?

 

[Stuffshot]

I don't think it's him but I suppose they gotta give Woodson a few days to get his things out of assembly hall and move on out. Aren't the new hires usually presented in that building

But, does it make sense that at least two players joined the portal before the next coach us announced?

 

[ams66]

But, does it make sense that at least two players joined the portal before the next coach us announced?

I think so, they are going to want to keep their options open. I'm surprised more are not already in, honestly.