A long time ago, I started to look at Ramsey's drives vs. Penix drives last season - to try and evaluate who was moving the chains and scoring efficiently, etc.
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Never got far.
Penix was easy because he had only 11 drives in 3 games.
But I quit - sue me.
May do it more later.
But did do something else today.
I looked at some stuff and how it compared to other league guys.
I picked the "other league guys" by looking at Ramsey and Penix numbers for passes per TD's and per completion and INT per pass and per completion. Then I looked at the league best (Haskins - OSU) for those numbers, and then 3 guys sorta close to Ramsey in those numbers (turned out be Thorson/NW, McSorley/PSU and Martinez/Nebraska - nice since we play NW and Nebraska from the Sissy Division this year anyway - so good to compare.) Then I looked at a couple other stats using those same guys. Didn't look at all. Sue me. Just looking at how other teams fared with "best" QB play and "QB play kinda like ours."
Penix sample size is so small it doesn't help much, but still gives us an idea of where we need to get to be better at the QB spot.
Plus, I've seen enough of Penix arm talent to at least take an educated guess and say that where Ramsey is weak (hitting that smaller window with some velocity) Penix may be an auto-improvement. Wish I could get a read on the other stuff (reading defenses, etc.) Plus, I have no idea what DeBord wanted a QB to do so I have no idea whether they were following orders - but my guess is Ramsey was seen as the steady experience and played because that was what we wanted.)
Here is what I found.
(I am not responsible for math errors - I'm a victim.)
Completion Percentage
Ramsey 66 (only Haskins at OSU was better)
Penix 61.8
Haskins – 70
Thorson – 61
McSorley – 53.2
Martinez – 64.6
TD/Interceptions
Ramsey - 19/13 - 1 TD every 23.5 attempts/1 TD every 15.5 completions/1 INT every 34.4 passes
P 1/0 – 1 TD every 34 attempts/1 TD every 21 completions/0 INT
OSU/Haskins – 50/8 – 1 TD every 10.7 passes/1 TD every 7.5 completions/1 INT every 66.6 passes
NW/Thorson – 17/15 – 1 TD every 28.8 passes/1 TD every 17.6 completions/1 INT every 19.9 passes
PSU/McSorley 18/7 – 1 TD every 20 passes/1 TD every 10.7 completions/1 INT every 27.4 passes
Neb/Martinez – 17/8 – 1 TD every 20.4 passes/1 TD every 13.2 completions/1 INT every 28 passes
Ramsey threw INT's less often than Thorson, McSorley and Martinez
Ramsey threw TD's slightly more often than Thorson
Haskins is not a human
Avg. Yards Per Completion (admittedly impacted by receivers YAC/play calls - but still gotta get better)
R – 9.75
P – 10.4
Haskins – 12.95
Thorson – 10.64
McSorley – 13.18
Martinez – 11.68
Total Net Offense/yards per play
R – 5.78
Ramsey passed on 447 pass plays (80% of plays he lost/gained yardage/and had 111 rushes (20%)
P – 6.43
Penix passed 35 times (67%) and had 7 rushes (33%)
Haskins – 8.07 (533 passes - 87%/79 rushes)
Thorson – 5.41 (490 - 86%/78)
McSorley – 6.26 (361 - 70%/170)
Martinez – 6.67 347 - 71%/140)
How does Thorson go 8-1 in league when Ramsey consistently puts up better numbers?
Maybe the Sissy Division is the Sissy Division?
Whatever.
Time to watch Koepka embarass the field.
.
Never got far.
Penix was easy because he had only 11 drives in 3 games.
But I quit - sue me.
May do it more later.
But did do something else today.
I looked at some stuff and how it compared to other league guys.
I picked the "other league guys" by looking at Ramsey and Penix numbers for passes per TD's and per completion and INT per pass and per completion. Then I looked at the league best (Haskins - OSU) for those numbers, and then 3 guys sorta close to Ramsey in those numbers (turned out be Thorson/NW, McSorley/PSU and Martinez/Nebraska - nice since we play NW and Nebraska from the Sissy Division this year anyway - so good to compare.) Then I looked at a couple other stats using those same guys. Didn't look at all. Sue me. Just looking at how other teams fared with "best" QB play and "QB play kinda like ours."
Penix sample size is so small it doesn't help much, but still gives us an idea of where we need to get to be better at the QB spot.
Plus, I've seen enough of Penix arm talent to at least take an educated guess and say that where Ramsey is weak (hitting that smaller window with some velocity) Penix may be an auto-improvement. Wish I could get a read on the other stuff (reading defenses, etc.) Plus, I have no idea what DeBord wanted a QB to do so I have no idea whether they were following orders - but my guess is Ramsey was seen as the steady experience and played because that was what we wanted.)
Here is what I found.
(I am not responsible for math errors - I'm a victim.)
Completion Percentage
Ramsey 66 (only Haskins at OSU was better)
Penix 61.8
Haskins – 70
Thorson – 61
McSorley – 53.2
Martinez – 64.6
TD/Interceptions
Ramsey - 19/13 - 1 TD every 23.5 attempts/1 TD every 15.5 completions/1 INT every 34.4 passes
P 1/0 – 1 TD every 34 attempts/1 TD every 21 completions/0 INT
OSU/Haskins – 50/8 – 1 TD every 10.7 passes/1 TD every 7.5 completions/1 INT every 66.6 passes
NW/Thorson – 17/15 – 1 TD every 28.8 passes/1 TD every 17.6 completions/1 INT every 19.9 passes
PSU/McSorley 18/7 – 1 TD every 20 passes/1 TD every 10.7 completions/1 INT every 27.4 passes
Neb/Martinez – 17/8 – 1 TD every 20.4 passes/1 TD every 13.2 completions/1 INT every 28 passes
Ramsey threw INT's less often than Thorson, McSorley and Martinez
Ramsey threw TD's slightly more often than Thorson
Haskins is not a human
Avg. Yards Per Completion (admittedly impacted by receivers YAC/play calls - but still gotta get better)
R – 9.75
P – 10.4
Haskins – 12.95
Thorson – 10.64
McSorley – 13.18
Martinez – 11.68
Total Net Offense/yards per play
R – 5.78
Ramsey passed on 447 pass plays (80% of plays he lost/gained yardage/and had 111 rushes (20%)
P – 6.43
Penix passed 35 times (67%) and had 7 rushes (33%)
Haskins – 8.07 (533 passes - 87%/79 rushes)
Thorson – 5.41 (490 - 86%/78)
McSorley – 6.26 (361 - 70%/170)
Martinez – 6.67 347 - 71%/140)
How does Thorson go 8-1 in league when Ramsey consistently puts up better numbers?
Maybe the Sissy Division is the Sissy Division?
Whatever.
Time to watch Koepka embarass the field.
