Actually, Cupps was a pretty big earner already. His connection to LBJ and social media presence is pretty large. The top 6 took up 4-5 million probably.
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I'm talking strictly from the Indiana collectives. I don't think Leal, Cupps, Newton, Goode are getting that much from the collectives let alone sniffing $900k each which would be the average if IU spent close to $10mil this offseason. $6million is the number I've seen floated.
Ballo--$1 mil
Reneau/Mgbako--$800k
Carlyle/Rice/Tucker---$600k
Galloway--$400k
Goode/Leal/Newton/Cupps--$200k
That's $5.5mil and those are probably high end projections I might add. Still a lot of money being thrown out there and either at the top or very close to the top in all of college basketball. But $10mil is pretty absurd if you actually break it down.
All those numbers are low IMO.
Ballo I’d say 1.3-1.5
Mack Malik 1M
Carlyle/rice/tucker 750-1M
Gallo Cupps 500k
Leal Goode 3-400k
Newton 250k
Washington just got a guy that is getting 2 million. Was the highest paid player that was public knowledge.
The rumored # for Ballo was $1.2mil and you had national guys saying IU likely didn't have to spend that much. Mack and Malik are making closer to $750k than a million and there isn't a chance in hell Cupps is getting $500k from the collectives.
Cupps has an insane following on social media. He has deals that have nothing to do with the collectives, as do a lot of these players. Malik for example has a burger from a local place and a deal with a car place. Nothing to do with collectives. Just more money.
I gave private deals. Now people with a lot more money than me are doing it. Jason Millican hired Anthony leal. Mack has a deal with crocs. List goes on and on from non collective money.
Right, I alluded to that. I'm strictly talking the money paid out by collectives. There isn't a chance in hell the IU collectives shelled out $500k to retain Cupps. Somebody else or some entity may be paying Cupps a total of $500k, but it's not coming from the collectives, which is the primary source of NIL funding.
If you mentioned that I glanced over it. My point is These guys are making closer to 10 mil than 5 mil in total.
And that may be the case, but you initially stated that IU spent closer to $10mil this offseason. I infer collectives when "IU spent" is mentioned. I'm guessing the collectives spent somewhere in the range of $5-6m, not closer to $10m. Still a very large and competitive figure either way.
For what it's worth you're in line with what I estimated from little data points that sometimes leak out.
The big football programs are reportedly paying $11-15M for their large rosters. I doubt a bball roster is getting close to big time football program roster spend.
Our NIL war chest for bball is supposedly around $10M. I think many NIL deals are over two years, so it makes sense that we don't spend all of that in one year, and we sort of allocate it over two years at $5-6M/year.
The non-collective $ is very interesting. I don't have any read or idea on what those figures may be.
Collectives or not our roster is making bank. It’s no coincidence some is from the collectives and some is from outside. NIL deals are still NIL deals. They all count. Our fan base/donors are giving us top 3 NIL money and it’s obviously more than 5-6 million.
If memory serves, TJD's deal with Merchants Bank was rumored to be $500k. Thompson supposedly had a six figure deal with them too.
TJD also had a deal with Penzoil and Adidas.
Thanks. Wow, those outside collective deals are more than I thought.
I knew there was an Adidas deal for TJD. Benefits of being a priority Adidas school.
Our NIL for bball is pretty amazing.
Hopefully football can catch up and get competitive on the field and in NIL too. Imagine the shape we'd be in if football was even moderately successful year in and year out? A rising tide lifts all boats and all that jazz.
I saw somewhere that $6-7M gets you a mid-pack B1G FB roster. I think we are $3-4M right now. Some winning and we could get there.
The other thing with football is we can quickly get $8-10M+ of athletic dept revenue if we get attendance closer to 48-50K/game. It’s the boat lifter for the athletic dept like you said (aside from TV deals sending us huge amounts of $).
Issue for IU is the power house programs in the Midwest to compete with for recruits.
OSU
Michigan
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They were paid well but not nearly that much by Merchants. And I've got that on record from a very good family friend who serves on the board at Merchants. $75-100k/yr is more in the ballpark range.
Sampson and Crean were definitely not 4-7th and neither was Archie. Woody is the only hire that we went off the grid on.
National championship football programs cost a lot to maintain, though. Of course, Michigan made the mistake of hiring the assistant who’s never been in such a high level position.
What Cupps and Leal are doing is the original concept for NIL.
The Next step was organized charity work such as Hoosiers For Good
Now there are just cash dumpsters to use on deals.
If you believe that it's only off of your own assumption. Crean was not top 5 on their list. Neither was Miller,or Woodson.
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