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Should we even call U of Mass Boston a university?

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I work with a scientist/engineer at UMASS-Dartmouth. I wonder how one branch campus can do such a thing. I wouldn't have thought them to be autonomous
 
I work with a scientist/engineer at UMASS-Dartmouth. I wonder how one branch campus can do such a thing. I wouldn't have thought them to be autonomous
Don't know. Good question. This sentiment is not a rare thing in higher education these days, though, so it wouldn't surprise me if the entire system adopted a similar policy.
 
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Don't know. Good question. This sentiment is not a rare thing in higher education these days, though, so it wouldn't surprise me if the entire system adopted a similar policy.
True. Or maybe they approved it for that campus - urban setting. I don't know
 
Looks like a great improvement over the previous statement, one that ignored any mention of how racism affects diversity. Nice touch to selectively bold all words that are offense to delicate right wing ears.
 
Looks like a great improvement over the previous statement, one that ignored any mention of how racism affects diversity. Nice touch to selectively bold all words that are offense to delicate right wing ears.
"We aspire to become an anti racist..." - are they racist now? Not being flippant but I wonder if they've had issues. Or perhaps they are just conforming to the community they serve. UIC type
 
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Jerry is starting to lose it. His disdain for cancel culture is making him reflexively hostile to anything too woke.

Adding a commitment to racial justice to a university's mission statement no more threatens their core educational mission than does Oxford's motto threaten their rational objectivity.
 
LOL. Mission statements. Those are at the top of my list of things to get outraged about.
Reminds me of the first real job I had, for a pharmaceutical company. I knew we were all in trouble when the bosses had a "town meeting" to discuss their proposed "mission statement" that they had crafted. It took them apparently months and dozens of meetings to come up with a handful of trite statements. We were looking at each other and eager to get out of there and update our CVs.
 
Reminds me of the first real job I had, for a pharmaceutical company. I knew we were all in trouble when the bosses had a "town meeting" to discuss their proposed "mission statement" that they had crafted. It took them apparently months and dozens of meetings to come up with a handful of trite statements. We were looking at each other and eager to get out of there and update our CVs.
I was thinking about having @stollcpa do my taxes and buying some shit from @mcmurtry66 , but I need to check out their mission statements first.
 
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Jerry is starting to lose it. His disdain for cancel culture is making him reflexively hostile to anything too woke.

Adding a commitment to racial justice to a university's mission statement no more threatens their core educational mission than does Oxford's motto threaten their rational objectivity.
It does when you take "anti-racism" at it's new definition as supplied by Ibram Kendi and his ilk. That term is a dog whistle for people who think like this:

 
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I was thinking about having @stollcpa do my taxes and buying some shit from @mcmurtry66 , but I need to check out their mission statements first.
You're already familiar with ours as it's tried-and-true.

Good
Fast
Cheap

You can pick two. Currently we're providing one. When we get to zero I'll implement the paperwork I carry in my back pocket to fake my own death.

We actually are in need of an unclemark to sort us out a bit with our endless shipping/logistical nightmares
 
LOL. Mission statements. Those are at the top of my list of things to get outraged about.
Mission statements are all BS. Every single one of them. If an organization has a mission statement, it has too many employees with too little to do.

I once represented an employee at will who was fired from a local company. I took their mission statement, which was provided to all employees, and hung them with it. The MS was so laden with feel-good platitudes about fairness I argued that the MS was part of the employment conditions and that the organization surrendered at will status with it. We got a settlement. I used to advise employers that all mission statements should include a disclaimer that the MS does not create any obligations and is not a binding document.
 
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Jerry is starting to lose it. His disdain for cancel culture is making him reflexively hostile to anything too woke.

Adding a commitment to racial justice to a university's mission statement no more threatens their core educational mission than does Oxford's motto threaten their rational objectivity.
I don't think so. I think Coyne is on top of this because he's staying up to date.

I think calling that statement merely"adding a commitment to racial justice" is inaccurate. In fact, it's that kind of argument that leads to the need for a catch-all term like CRT or woke. Not sure why you used the term cancel culture? I guess that term is used haphazardly as an equivalent for CRT/woke/etc?

I also think Coyne does a good job of parsing the statement, highlighting the woke racist dog whistles (I hate the overuse and cheapening of the word racist and the ridiculous overuse of dog whistle by the woke, so it's kind of satisfying writing a phrase using those words against them--thanks John McWhorter!), and explaining why this matters.

Coyne has documented that some universities are now hiring science profs based on their commitment to CRT ideology. That's wrong. This is a problem in higher academia. (Although I don't think you should outlaw teaching it or hiring based on that being someone's research interest.)
 
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LOL. Mission statements. Those are at the top of my list of things to get outraged about.
I bet that mission statement represents a whole lot more thought and intention of that college's administration in hiring, learning priorities, etc. than many tweets by a certain someone that you have been outraged by. :)
 
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I don't think so. I think Coyne is on top of this because he's staying up to date.

I think calling that statement merely"adding a commitment to racial justice" is inaccurate. In fact, it's that kind of argument that leads to the need for a catch-all term like CRT or woke. Not sure why you used the term cancel culture? I guess that term is used haphazardly as an equivalent for CRT/woke/etc?

I also think Coyne does a good job of parsing the statement, highlighting the woke racist dog whistles (I hate the overuse and cheapening of the word racist and the ridiculous overuse of dog whistle by the woke, so it's kind of satisfying writing a phrase using those words against them--thanks John McWhorter!), and explaining why this matters.

Coyne has documented that some universities are now hiring science profs based on their commitment to CRT ideology. That's wrong. This is a problem in higher academia. (Although I don't think you should outlaw teaching it or hiring based on that being someone's research interest.)
No, I used the term because it's something he's taken a keen interest in. And does a good job with, I might add. He's one of my favorite academics, and has been for decades.

But he is dramatically overreacting here.
 
No, I used the term because it's something he's taken a keen interest in. And does a good job with, I might add. He's one of my favorite academics, and has been for decades.

But he is dramatically overreacting here.
I disagree. I think more people dedicated to rational thought and the usefulness of the university and education need to push back strongly against these notions. Parenthetically, I wish you would.

He's 100% correct that embedded in anti-racism/CRT dogma are the notions of "other ways of knowing" (can't wait to see the Reiki and Chakra classes in the syllabus) that research and ideas should be judged, in no small part, based on who is advancing them, and that meritocracy is a racist notion. A university, as I understand it, should not adopt these ideas as policy or part of its mission.
 

care to explain what your issue is?

Oh no, they're against racism.. wooo. that's so far out there.
 
I disagree. I think more people dedicated to rational thought and the usefulness of the university and education need to push back strongly against these notions. Parenthetically, I wish you would.

He's 100% correct that embedded in anti-racism/CRT dogma are the notions of "other ways of knowing" (can't wait to see the Reiki and Chakra classes in the syllabus) that research and ideas should be judged, in no small part, based on who is advancing them, and that meritocracy is a racist notion. A university, as I understand it, should not adopt these ideas as policy or part of its mission.
They didn't adopt any of that stuff. Coyne and you are reading it into the text.

How is an organization supposed to signal its opposition to racism if the normal words for doing so have become bogeymen?
 
I disagree. I think more people dedicated to rational thought and the usefulness of the university and education need to push back strongly against these notions. Parenthetically, I wish you would.

He's 100% correct that embedded in anti-racism/CRT dogma are the notions of "other ways of knowing" (can't wait to see the Reiki and Chakra classes in the syllabus) that research and ideas should be judged, in no small part, based on who is advancing them, and that meritocracy is a racist notion. A university, as I understand it, should not adopt these ideas as policy or part of its mission.
"...based on who is advancing them" is obviously the material part as it relates to CRT. So if you presuppose that whatever the subject/area of research, it's intertwined with social issues and, more particularly, has inherent social biases, I don't think this draft mission statement gets there, "yet." I could certainly see it devolving to that, but I think it's premature for the author to make that connection without first seeing what the actual curriculum looks like.
 
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It's not that complicated.

Anti racism means that you think that racism is a bad thing.

If you struggle with that, then it's a "you problem"
 
It's not that complicated.

Anti racism means that you think that racism is a bad thing.

If you struggle with that, then it's a "you problem"
I see. So why change the mission statement then, when the old one specifically mentions their commitment to diversity and inclusion?

Apparently they feel like there’s a difference.
 
The difference is the new statement includes a trendy buzzword.

You guys are reading way too much into it.
I think @BradStevens has done a much better job than I could of showing how this is quite a bit more than just adding a catchy buzzword to the mission statement.

Apparently, the author of the article agrees.

Maybe it’s you who is misreading this.
 
They didn't adopt any of that stuff. Coyne and you are reading it into the text.

How is an organization supposed to signal its opposition to racism if the normal words for doing so have become bogeymen?
To answer your question, you signal it by stating "Our organization is opposed to racism."

Six words. Pretty simple.

Do you know of anyone complaining about those words being woke or making them into a bogeyman? I don't.

Also you say "they didn't adopt any of that stuff." What stuff are you referring to?
 
Reminds me of the first real job I had, for a pharmaceutical company. I knew we were all in trouble when the bosses had a "town meeting" to discuss their proposed "mission statement" that they had crafted. It took them apparently months and dozens of meetings to come up with a handful of trite statements. We were looking at each other and eager to get out of there and update our CVs.
When the mission statement (for a business) diverges from the business model for how to make money … It is time to go … nothing but trouble can follow.
 
We actually are in need of an unclemark to sort us out a bit with our endless shipping/logistical nightmares

The best you can do is track everything constantly and fastidiously and manage customer expectations the entire time. I'm so glad I got out before this whole "supply chain disruption" thing got going. Even in the best of times, shit would happen, the end consumer had unrealistic expectations, and the sales people would make promises I couldn't keep.

My favorite was when customers would ask how much more it would cost to have their shit shipped on a "fast boat". No, I am not kidding.
 
The best you can do is track everything constantly and fastidiously and manage customer expectations the entire time. I'm so glad I got out before this whole "supply chain disruption" thing got going. Even in the best of times, shit would happen, the end consumer had unrealistic expectations, and the sales people would make promises I couldn't keep.

My favorite was when customers would ask how much more it would cost to have their shit shipped on a "fast boat". No, I am not kidding.
That's hilarious! Part of the problem is everything occurs half a world away; part is the current environment; and part is inexperience. I don't know how you did it to be honest. There's so little you control
 
Jerry is starting to lose it. His disdain for cancel culture is making him reflexively hostile to anything too woke.

Adding a commitment to racial justice to a university's mission statement no more threatens their core educational mission than does Oxford's motto threaten their rational objectivity.

How so? If I read the mission statement below, it seems like there is clear change in terms of intent.

As an academic community of global and local citizens, we are committed to becoming an anti-racist and health-promoting institution that honors and uplifts the cultural wealth of our students. We intend to engage reciprocally in equitable practices and partnerships with the communities we serve. We support various and diverse forms of knowledge production that enrich the lives of all communities, especially those historically undervalued and underserved. We are a public urban university dedicated to teaching, learning, and research rooted in equity, environmental sustainability, social and racial justice, innovation, and expansive notions of excellence.

The mission of being a "dynamic culture of teaching and learning" became quite narrowly focused with the updated statement. It's only focused on a single purpose. We can argue whether or not that is a good or bad thing (obviously we'll have different views), but can we agree that the fundamental intent changed?
 
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