Nah, British government tried. Even prosecuted people who pointed it out with hate crimes.
Shame on Bishop Budde for preaching the Gospel and quoting the Bible!
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I couldn’t agree with you more.
I believe in God and try to live a good Christian life. I fail most days like all of us do. I am not ever going to try and push religion on anyone.
I think if we lived by the Ten Commandments it would be a pretty decent world.
I'm only saying this because "Shrek Forever After" was on in the background today...that said...uncanny...
When asking for mercy and compassion offends someone, what does it tell you about that person?
What’s it tell you about a supposed minister going on The View today to talk about her sermon. She’s an ultra liberal activist, not a minister.
So the next time a democratic leader shows up for a very public service I guess the minister or bishop needs to lecture them on killing babies.
How would she like to see that mercy and compassion manifested?
I think I have an idea.
People can offer as much scripture as they like about how we should behave towards the stranger.
What you won’t find is scripture that advocates for borderless states and non-enforcement of immigration law.
It’s an inane logical leap that the pastor and many in this thread are making.
I honestly don't have an opinion on it. I didn't see it, but I'm not surprised a program like that reached out. Her plea to Trump made big news. That said, I'd want to see/hear what she said before I weigh in on anything.
I honestly don't know why Trump didn't act like a grown up and say that, of course he will enact new immigration policies with dignity and compassion. He could have also thrown in some boilerplate Trump-isms about wanting to make life better for all Americans, being laser focused on deporting dangerous criminals, etc, etc.
Instead he rebuked a bishop who was basically asking him to adhere to Jesus'/Christian teaching.
Imagine those years. We were heathens. Lecherous. Selfish at every turn. Drunks. While there van was. At moody Bible college. Wearing seminary issued pants without a zipper. Studying the word of the lord so that he can SAVE US!!!! Maybe once every few months, if there was anything left after tithing, and there usually wasn’t, he might, MIGHT treat himself to a slice from Mr gatty’s pizza.
Only to be abused here.
If there’s any consolation the abuse he takes here from the Judases is nothing to that of Jesus. And he knows that. In his peace.
Truth. He’s a rock. I was drinking AMFs at Upstairs dancing with the Devil (she was gorgeous) and he was preaching on campus. I admire him for taking the constant beating from shit libs and returning for more each day.
And never throws insults back. Bc he knows his posts mean more. And that he’s serving. He’s always in service
If you are talking about christian doctrine then she would not be allowed to teach if a Christian male was present. Maybe there weren’t any present…I don’t know
Nothing like a challenge:
When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Sojourn: a temporary stay.
Tom Homan is setting about the work of enacting the temporary part of the definition. I advise treating illegal immigrants the human dignity they deserve.
Yeah, Jewish law is a real pain for Christians...unless they want to post it in a courthouse.
Lol. How about compassion for current residents? Eric Adams: "We took $6,500,000,000 out of paying for chronically absent students we could have paid $200,000,000 for. We could have paid for housing, older adults. The long term impact of what's happening to New York, Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, Houston, the long term impact has yet to materialize, what this crisis, has done to our cities."
More from Adams: "But specifically here in New York, we have a substantial number of chronically absent young people who, were just traumatized, from COVID and other things, and they they just stopped coming to school. If I had $200,000,000 that I can go out and go find those young people and place them back on the correct course, I'm preventing the long term problem. If you don't educate, you're going to incarcerate."
And finally from him: "That's the common denominator denominator in all of our prisons, the lack of education. I could have put 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars in what I'm doing around dyslexia screen and and other, learning disabilities. So those $6,500,000 that I didn't put into housing, I did not put into a senior care, we're getting ready to excuse medical debt for New Yorkers that are dealing with severe medical debt. All of these dollars could have gone into dealing with the long term fixes that we were projecting to correct."
So this pastor wants to take from taxpayers and communities and give money to law breakers? I have compassion for them.
And how many immigrants who are in line trying to do the correct, legal way are being delayed or denied entry? I have compassion for them.
And how about the thousands of migrants who died on the way encouraged by Biden to come? I have compassion for them.
And how about the thousands of girls being smuggled and sex trafficked because of the Biden policies? I have compassion for them.
Those who disregard Jesus aren't Christians regardless of the title they bestow on themselves.
It's pretty interesting to look at the 4th Commandment through that lens.
Yes. Born in New Jersey. So she can’t be deported under current law
I guess if you want to invalidate what she said on a technicality be my guest.
She didn't say to do any immigration reform. She only wanted mercy and compassion for half the equation, the law breakers. She mentioned nothing about the victims who suffered because of those law breakers. Not a word from what I could find.
The Israelites were in Egypt for 400 years. That is some temporary standard.
To undercut the use of the passage, much of The Bible is written to address a specific problem at a specific time. This was written because the Israelites were forced to seek refuge in Egypt. It differs from below, so it might.
A classic case is Paul's letter about not letting women teach. A church wrote Paul detailing a problem they were having, Paul writes back a solution. Is it fair to conclude that solution applies to every church throughout history? If you have two kids, one works hard and never has time to rest, the other is lazy and never works. Both write you asking for advice, would you write the same letter back to both?
I wish I could take credit for the 2 children write letters idea but it comes from an Adam Hamilton book.
If the passage applies, at a minimum we are required to treat them with respect as we deport them. Sometimes that concept is missing in descriptions of how to go about deportation.
I didn’t listen to all of it, but the snippets I heard, and what people said about it, she was arrogant and self-aggrandizing. She exploited her position and her captive audience. None of that is Jesus-like.
I also didn't hear it, it was more the way it was presented than the message? To put it in simple terms, she Joel Osteened it? If that's it, I get the complaints.
One slight quibble, captive audiences are part and parcel of the religious service experience. It isn't like we have a remote control and can change to a different sermon. My minister works in his love of the Cubs, but I'm a captive audience.
They shoulda had that guy that channeled MLK on Monday come in and pinch hit...
Then complete it Blues Bros style with a fake Belushi doing flip flops to end the service.
Then complete it Blues Bros style with a fake Belushi doing flip flops to end the service.
More like Al sharpton than Joel Osteen. Sharpton has a chip on his shoulder. I don’t think Osteen does.
Why don't you listen to all of it? It's like 60 seconds. Much less time than reading article after article of right wing analysis.
From the reporting, I thought what she said must have been awful. But listening to it, the analyses are mostly hot air. Like a CO.H. post.
From the reporting, I thought what she said must have been awful. But listening to it, the analyses are mostly hot air. Like a CO.H. post.
