Jones is an American classic and high entertainment. How can you not love the guy?
Ah, I get it. So your problem isn't that Cosmic is a partisan hack. Your problem is that he's a partisan hack for the wrong team.
I doubt he’ll ever pay a dime. Texas has an unlimited homestead exemption and it isn’t too hard to put other assets beyond reach. Plus,he might be able to litigate the issue in Texas before Texas enters judgment.
He’s a first class dip shit, and his antics are truly disgusting. But that doesn’t help the plaintiffs.
Nonresponsive, yet again. I told you the content and substance I posted regarding. You want to continue with COH/COsmic
No, it's quite responsive. You think Cosmic is a bot because he keeps claiming it's the Republicans' fault. By your own logic, you and COH are bots, too. But, no, when someone claims it's all the Democrats' fault, you cheer that and agree. You're just as much of a hack as COH or Cosmic is, or any of the other hacks around these parts.
LOL Mr. zero self-awareness blowing bias out his ass. I'm talking about the difference in politicians' response to riots/protests based on their political affiliation while you are talking about posters. Do you have an opinion on how politicians handled the riots/protests or do you just want to fixate on posters?
I don’t think he would have said the sandy hook stuff if he knew what some of his crazy followers were gonna do. He’s actually a very sweet guy.
I don't know, I'm thinking we might need to give slander and libel laws much more teeth in the modern era of the online marketplace of ideas or whatever you want to call it.
Free speech from my POV is to protect the speaker from repercussions for throwing an unpopular idea into the marketplace. Particularly to be free from repercussions from the government (assuming basic criminal law will protect the speaker from it's community).
The marketplace of ideas is meant to be all the opinions are out in the open and the good ones will drown out the bad ones.
What we're seeing with social media is a lot of bad ideas are catching fire and spreading.
Now instead of protecting the speaker we've entered an area where we're not sure how to properly protect the speaker's targets.
It's like we've circled back to Salem where an accusation becomes a full blown mass panic attack in record time.
So I think, for now, we gotta give libel and defamation laws more teeth (meaning you've got to really feel strong about whatever thought, especially ones that will hurt others, that you throw into the marketplace.
Free speech from my POV is to protect the speaker from repercussions for throwing an unpopular idea into the marketplace. Particularly to be free from repercussions from the government (assuming basic criminal law will protect the speaker from it's community).
The marketplace of ideas is meant to be all the opinions are out in the open and the good ones will drown out the bad ones.
What we're seeing with social media is a lot of bad ideas are catching fire and spreading.
Now instead of protecting the speaker we've entered an area where we're not sure how to properly protect the speaker's targets.
It's like we've circled back to Salem where an accusation becomes a full blown mass panic attack in record time.
So I think, for now, we gotta give libel and defamation laws more teeth (meaning you've got to really feel strong about whatever thought, especially ones that will hurt others, that you throw into the marketplace.
Me fixate on posters? I only jumped in because you made it about posters, or about one poster. You attacked Cosmic the poster, calling him a "bot," ostensibly for posting behavior that was no different from the posting behavior that you lauded COH for. I didn't take the conversation there. I simply responded to you when you did.
I posted about the content. Riots/protests/people. YOU posted about posters. You haven't written a word about the content.
LOL.
"What do you want stories/videos of? Blocking hospitals? Harassing diners? Blocking roads? Blocking highways? Killing people protecting businesses. YOU. ARE. A. BOT. This is another bot post.
Morons on both sides. Only a moron fails to recognize same. CosmicBot"
Yeah, that's not about the poster at all.
LOL
And there have been what 50 plus posts since that one. Have you posted content in any of them? Or have you just been posting about posters?
Blah, blah, blah.
It’s not the conservatives who want to restrict free speech because they don’t,Ike Citizens United.
It’s not the conservatives who have imposed so many restrictions, sanctions, and penalties on free expression throughout all parts of the society that they created a new paradigm summed up as “cancel culture”.
It’s not the conservatives who have allowed unruly demonstrations morph into destructive and deadly riots because they see freedom of expression in civil unrest.
Then along comes cosmic and posts about a few anti-vaxers and anti-lockdown advocates about whom we don’t even know their politics.
The momentum for restrictions on free expression unmistakably comes from the left. Cosmic responds with highly predictable BS. You can’t refute the basic point so you defend Cosmic while attacking McM with drive by posts.
Carry on.
I've been stuck on the beginning of the conversation, because I was trying to get you to realize you were being unfair. Now that you've explained more, I realize I was wasting my time, because you fully intended to be unfair.
Just as I have no intention of wasting more of my time discussing this issue with COH, I have no intention of wasting more of my time discussing it with you. If someone who isn't a hack finds the topic interesting, perhaps I might join in.
Yes you are a waste of time. That you have the condescending nerve to write "help" also shows you're a dickhead. As with the past you pretend that certain posters are a matter of first impression to you and conveniently ignore the 10,000 plus prior posts of that poster. COH may be a blowhard but if you think he's on par with Cosmic w/ re to obscene partisanship you are crazy. Cosmic literally posts from sites called RepublicansREvil. Nearly every post Cosmic makes is a diatribe from far left wing sites attacking conservatives. Like a bot.
There are numerous left wingers on here that I would never call out. Because they still have open minds, and don't spend all day scrolling the web for attack pieces on conservatives to say HA, HA conservatives are bad! Post content; not hit pieces. COH may be partisan but he often posts content. Not just hit pieces. Bulk got called out by Brad yesterday for a hit piece. That's 99/100 cosmic posts. Partisan hit pieces. It's ponderous. Only a hack would defend it. Or one with zero self-awareness. So this has dragged on long enough. Continue to hack away....
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So then I was right in my original response, when I pointed out that you were letting your anti-Cosmic bias affect how you were responding to these two. Thanks.
I posted content; post after post after post. You have yet to. Probably because you can't refute the content. So easier to snipe and redirect.
I'm not trying to refute your content. I don't know how to make this any clearer. I'm not arguing with you about the content. I only jumped in because you got personal, and you did it in what I thought was a really stupid way, and I felt the need to call you out on it.
You know who else posted content? Cosmic, in the post you attacked him for.
You know who didn't post content? COH, in the post you defended.
After a while, you made it clear that the reason you responded unevenly was because you actually agreed with COH that it was mostly the liberals' fault, and that's why I dismissed you as a partisan hack. Now, you seem to be reversing a bit and saying you responded unevenly because a history of thousands of posts has taught you Cosmic is worth nothing but disdain. If that's the case, then you're not necessarily a partisan hack, but my original response was accurate: you were being unfair because of your bias against Cosmic.
Quoted below is the post I liked and the subject matter that served as the predicate to my many posts thereafter re time/place restrictions and political persuasion. Coh's post was nothing but content. That you thought you were interjecting yourself to "help" is a narcissistic comedy
"Only Democrats have formally called for a change to the first amendment in a way to restrict speech.
The practical application of speech restrictions throughout government, academia, and business through employment discipline and other restrictions on individuals comes almost exclusively from the left.
On the other hand, many on the right do not believe that protests and marches that block free movement without permits to do so, that block access to businesses, that intimidate people minding their own business, that are specifically intended to disturb and intimidate people while in their homes should be tolerated as freedom of expression. In other words, the right knows that reasonable time and place restrictions on speech are inherent in freedom of expression and should be enforced.
I’ll take the right view of freedom of expression."
It is like the evidence of election fraud. Talked about often but never released
Hard to beat faux leopard skin and intelligence.
Would be a helluva combination except Trump's lawyers only have one of those.
That's not content. It's a sheet of right wing talking points.
Edit: I'll grant the first two paragraphs at least hint at content. Citizens United and cancel culture are worthy avenues of discussion. But that third paragraph is just pure bullshit fluff, and that's what Cosmic was responding to, and his response was spot on.
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Well I guess that passes for effort.
Is there a problem with an organization deciding who can represent it? I think the Wyoming GOP has that right whether I agree with it or not.
The public always decides school curricula. That authority exists in every public system. Disagreeing with the choices is not the same thing as restricting free expression.
If you can find a conservative who defends the January 6 Capitol invasion in the name of free expression, link it. I’m not aware of anybody who did that.
So the school boards with mask mandates that are receiving death threats are having them come from liberals?
I know some professors who have received threats, even have read the messages, they are being called communists and threaten by liberals?
The threats received by Colin Kaepernick came from liberals?
I know some professors who have received threats, even have read the messages, they are being called communists and threaten by liberals?
The threats received by Colin Kaepernick came from liberals?
Bullshit.
The documents and testimony he refused to provide in response to formal discovery requests were tailored to reveal what he knew, when he knew it, why he said what he said and how much money he expected to make (and actually made) by saying what he said instead of saying something else that was actually true.
No need for you to vouch like you did that he's a nice guy, unless you were a participant of course -- just produce the documents and testimony. But neither he nor you will do that,
I’ve seen him on podcasts seems like a guy who knows how to cut loose and get crazy. Who cares if he says wild shit. In my day a man was allowed to be colorful.
I don't know what's going on in Jones' head, but I strongly suspect he doesn't believe any of what he spews. Rather, I'd bet he's simply smart enough to know that the people who eat that shit up are also the most likely people to fall for his dietary supplements scam. It's a helluva lot easier to sell snake oil to people who are worried about chemtrails or fluoride turning their kids gay than to, you know, normal people.
Lol. Since when is a talking point not content? You might disagree, you might think it superficial, or you might think it came from a blowhard, , but that doesn’t mean it isn’t content. Or you might think that post is not worthy of your effort to respond. But you chose to respond and did so with condescension, not content.
Congrats; you almost posted content, but your biased still showed through. Baby steps...I'm only trying to help you.
I'm sure my biases show through all the time, just as they do for everyone. Including you, which was my only original point, and which set you off on some kind of strange mental journey that included you telling me to go f*ck myself.
speaking of blowhards ... What about Alex Jones?
Who is on your side, along with the Nazis, white supremacists, Proud Boys, religious grifters, %3 percenters, Qanon, Incels, KKK, ,.,,, and so many other groups of degenerate nut jobs and grifters I've lost count.
Are you ready to admit they are a major part of the GOP or are you still pretending they are an outlier, so you can point out whats' wrong with liberals without feeling like a hypocrite?
Nothing strange. Come at any adult with condescension I trust you can always expect a go f*uck yourself.
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