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Run it back leal and galloway!!

Notoriety goes both ways...not sure being associated with a horrible IU team would help him in the long run either. Logic tells me he's coming back because he knows they have a solid core returning...and then obviously the NIL money plays a role too. But I would be very surprised if it were ALL about the NIL/Real Estate exposure.
I can't see it backfiring like that but I agree that NIL/publicity is probably not the only reason he's coming back.
 
Notoriety goes both ways...not sure being associated with a horrible IU team would help him in the long run either. Logic tells me he's coming back because he knows they have a solid core returning...and then obviously the NIL money plays a role too. But I would be very surprised if it were ALL about the NIL/Real Estate exposure.
Hmmm. Maybe he loves playing basketball, specifically at IU? I bet he'd stay without NIL.
 
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I can't see it backfiring like that but I agree that NIL/publicity is probably not the only reason he's coming back.
I don't know how far along Anthony is in his business career, what his mindset and philosophies are, what his goals are, etc... But nearly all ultra successful business people list maximizing their time as one of their primary areas of focus when building businesses and companies. They know they'll "win", its just how much time do they have...how many battles can they "win".

I assume Anthony operates this way...so he isn't going to sacrifice his time (playing D1 basketball is VERY time consuming)...he isn't going to sacrifice that valuable time to knowingly play for a crappy team. Again, no way to know this for sure...but logic tells me he knows the roster is pretty solid.
 
I don't know how far along Anthony is in his business career, what his mindset and philosophies are, what his goals are, etc... But nearly all ultra successful business people list maximizing their time as one of their primary areas of focus when building businesses and companies. They know they'll "win", its just how much time do they have...how many battles can they "win".

I assume Anthony operates this way...so he isn't going to sacrifice his time (playing D1 basketball is VERY time consuming)...he isn't going to sacrifice that valuable time to knowingly play for a crappy team. Again, no way to know this for sure...but logic tells me he knows the roster is pretty solid.
These are the same sorts of assumptions this board and others have run with for the past week, but in the opposite direction.

Maybe Anthony enjoys being a college student? Maybe he loves the perks and attention that go with being a homegrown IU basketball player? We could lose every game next year and Anthony would be immune in the community from the shit most of the rest of the team would take (locally).

I don't pretend to know what motivations Anthony has for coming back. It really doesn't matter and probably shouldn't be used to read into anything other than, Anthony Leal is going to play at IU again next year. End of story.
 
I don't know how far along Anthony is in his business career, what his mindset and philosophies are, what his goals are, etc... But nearly all ultra successful business people list maximizing their time as one of their primary areas of focus when building businesses and companies. They know they'll "win", its just how much time do they have...how many battles can they "win".

I assume Anthony operates this way...so he isn't going to sacrifice his time (playing D1 basketball is VERY time consuming)...he isn't going to sacrifice that valuable time to knowingly play for a crappy team. Again, no way to know this for sure...but logic tells me he knows the roster is pretty solid.
better the roster the less he plays. so not sure your logic applies in this case.
 
better the roster the less he plays. so not sure your logic applies in this case.
Hadn't thought about that! I guess I would have doubted it. But maybe he has really enjoyed playing more this year. And is o.k. with losing more, if it means he's gonna play more?

I really have no clue...just making my opinion off what I think the type of person he is. He comes across as a "go getter" to me. That wouldn't sign up for something he knows is unlikely to succeed. Who knows though.
 
Hadn't thought about that! I guess I would have doubted it. But maybe he has really enjoyed playing more this year. And is o.k. with losing more, if it means he's gonna play more?

I really have no clue...just making my opinion off what I think the type of person he is. He comes across as a "go getter" to me. That wouldn't sign up for something he knows is unlikely to succeed. Who knows though.
I would say if you asked most athletes when their careers ended, middle school, high school, college, pros. if they could have had 1 more year would they take it 90 percent would without hesitation.
 
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You get a trophy for being one of the posters who only comes here to say negative shit and when we lose. If you don't believe me, take a look: https://indiana.forums.rivals.com/search/121339/?c[users]=capovito&o=date

What a miserable sombitch you must be.
And your optimism and positivity has produced the kind of results and mediocrity th fan base apparently now accepts. Our program is a shit show. Has Woodson even come close to his goals he stated No!!
 
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Next season is gonna look like Crean's first season at IU. Players aren't playing for a coach who throws them under the bus constantly. And taking recruiting for granted. This ain't a major player in basketball until IU gets a major coach who values recruiting,coaching and the fan base.
Did you hear Leal, he would not want to play for another coach. The players have CMW back and he has theirs.
 
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And your optimism and positivity has produced the kind of results and mediocrity th fan base apparently now accepts. Our program is a shit show. Has Woodson even come close to his goals he stated No!!
I'm neither optimistic about Woodson nor displaying great positivity. Just calling out the bullshit when I see it.
 
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To me, everything that's happened recently, and is happening, points towards more players being back than most have guessed on this board.
Or players want to bolster their resumes to increase their NIL haul elsewhere.
 
Leal is just like any other passionate basketball player — he wants to play as long as he can. Look at all the pros who try to extend their careers. Yes, part of it is about the money but the bigger part is about hanging onto to something they’ve dedicated themselves to for a long time.
 
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That'd why your as dumb as Woodson to building a roster. Listen Leal great kid but is not a big ten caliber player. Galloway is a sixth man at best we need mutiple players better then them to be a good team.
That'd why your as dumb as Woodson to building a roster. Listen Leal great kid but is not a big ten caliber player. Galloway is a sixth man at best we need mutiple players better then them to be a good team.
I can't let that go you are one of the biggest idiots to ever post on this board. I said on a 13 man roster if you don't take die hard Indiana kids that give you everything on your team even if it is 6th man or 13th man cheerleader that is fine. You have never said anything remotely intelligent and I doubt you know anything about basketball. We have more basketball intelligence staff and coaching than you would ever dream about. Yes, roster management and the season were bad, but you are clueless.

I am being nice in saying that. I would not allow you to coach 6-year-old girls let alone try to coach or manage IU.

I hope you have a nice day and life wallowing in your misery.
 
this team's weakness is guard play and 3pt shooting.
CMW has experienced little success in recruiting backcourt talent, either through the portal or the old fashioned, organic recruiting out of high school. JHS is the only one, and he was only here a few months and CMW couldn't fill his shoes this year.

The fact that McN reneged and all other high level PGs (Boogie) turned him down, along with X's departure (both good X and bad X), CMW has to pull in 2 solid backcourt guys from the portal this spring. AND...and this is a BIG AND....figure out how to fill the hole left by Ware. Because he's not returning, no matter how hard you wish it.

Very curious to see what MR and MM do. that will be huge. If they split, then we're screwed next yr regardless because Woody isn't going to grab an entirely new starting 5 of talented players out of the portal. If they stay, and he can grab some help in the backcourt, then next year might not be terrible.

Let's hope Gallo can play this week. I appreciate Leal's efforts yesterday, but talent-wise, it was pretty obvious he's in over his head against a team with backcourt talent like MSU.
I agree with some of what you said, but thats why they pay him the big bucks. Let's see what CMW does. We have Newton also who already have a big 10 body.
 
Leal is just like any other passionate basketball player — he wants to play as long as he can. Look at all the pros who try to extend their careers. Yes, part of it is about the money but the bigger part is about hanging onto to something they’ve dedicated themselves to for a long time.
There is nothing wrong with that. Let him enjoy his college experience.
 
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Leal said this:

”There’s no other coach in the country I would trust, with anything in my life, than coach Woodson, and there’s no other university I’d want to represent,” he said. “We’re gonna run it back. But you guys gotta chill.
How excited did you get when he said he was coming back? I was like, "oh, ok". What are they running back? They are 10-10 in the B1G. I said this in another post. He should not have told fans to chill. But he did defend his coach and that shows loyalty.
 
Whether he is lazy or not really doesn't matter. As long as he brings in good players and produces wins, who cares if he does it from Napa or while smoking cigars in the pole barn. Just win.

It appears that he has a solid group coming back next season, and no mass defections. If he can pick up a couple of key pieces in the portal we could be halfway decent next season. I'm not buying into the total collapse that a lot of people are suggesting.
Better
 
How excited did you get when he said he was coming back? I was like, "oh, ok". What are they running back? They are 10-10 in the B1G. I said this in another post. He should not have told fans to chill. But he did defend his coach and that shows loyalty.
VanPastorMan, Leal told me about the state of the locker room. You want players who will go through a brick wall for you.
 
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Notoriety goes both ways...not sure being associated with a horrible IU team would help him in the long run either. Logic tells me he's coming back because he knows they have a solid core returning...and then obviously the NIL money plays a role too. But I would be very surprised if it were ALL about the NIL/Real Estate exposure.
Everything is not about money.
 
Leal is going to play nothing next year he hardly plays now and if your pumping the Leal train were screwed. We need atleast 3 guards next season who are better then Leal or Indiana is done.
I thought Leal telling the fanbase to chill was low class, especially from a glorified bench player. Here's an idea, do better then 10-10 in the league in your third year with 3 possible NBA players on the roster.
 
He doesn't need to report anything to me, anyone that even pays a lick of attention to recruiting can see that despite almost 40 scholarship offers and 11 official visits we have all of zero recruits committed for 2024.

He lost the one recruit we did have because (according to his mom) Liam hadn't even spoken to Woodson once since he commited. Woodson doesn't go to the games to watch these kids play, he's never out recruiting, and he refuses to talk about it to the media.

So with the likelihood of at least 6+ open spots going into next year coming off an NIT season, and a coach that refuses to recruit, consider me skeptical that next year is going to be anything but a disaster similar to Archie's year 4. Again, hope I'm wrong.
Doom and gloom
 
How excited did you get when he said he was coming back? I was like, "oh, ok". What are they running back? They are 10-10 in the B1G. I said this in another post. He should not have told fans to chill. But he did defend his coach and that shows loyalty.
"Excited" probably isn't the right word. Maybe more a sense of relief. Every regular rotation type player that says they're coming back, raises our floor for next season a little bit. Trey and Anthony alone aren't gonna win a ton of games, but they're 2 solid, senior leaders. Malik and Mack are obviously important. Gabe and Jakai as well. The more of those guys that come back, the less chance there is for a dumpster fire type of season.

Woody's here no matter what. It does us ZERO good to be horrible next year. Might as well win some games.
 
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I thought Leal telling the fanbase to chill was low class, especially from a glorified bench player. Here's an idea, do better then 10-10 in the league in your third year with 3 possible NBA players on the roster.
He is protecting his coach, Loyalty is a rare trait.
 
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You are just doom and gloom
OK. That’s your opinion. Do you think at 66 woody’s coaching style and overall leadership is going to change dramatically. He is average coach. His body of work proves it. I could be wrong but It will take a dramatic statistical abnormality for him to elevate the program significantly especially given the recruiting results and his arrogance and attitude regarding change
 
How excited did you get when he said he was coming back? I was like, "oh, ok". What are they running back? They are 10-10 in the B1G. I said this in another post. He should not have told fans to chill. But he did defend his coach and that shows loyalty.
Just a little, mainly because the decision, along with TG’s, represents some stability. Theoretically, each player returning who played significant minutes will be better with a year’s more experience. Also, the players returning who have played together for at least one season and in most cases 2-3 seasons will benefit from that. The adage “get old, stay old” hopefully applies here. Another adage might also be applicable: “The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores” (see Malik Reneau, for example).
 
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"Excited" probably isn't the right word. Maybe more a sense of relief. Every regular rotation type player that says they're coming back, raises our floor for next season a little bit. Trey and Anthony alone aren't gonna win a ton of games, but they're 2 solid, senior leaders. Malik and Mack are obviously important. Gabe and Jakai as well. The more of those guys that come back, the less chance there is for a dumpster fire type of season.

Woody's here no matter what. It does us ZERO good to be horrible next year. Might as well win some games.
This. When IU announced Woody is returning next season as coach (a decision I anticipated though not excited about), I said pretty much the same thing. Winning cures all. Woody will get one more season to put it together. It’s better for IU if he does.
 
I agree with some of what you said, but thats why they pay him the big bucks. Let's see what CMW does. We have Newton also who already have a big 10 body.
I said this in another post...I hope Newton heals and contributes next yr and has a big career here. But I learned my lesson with Jerome Hunter. The journey back from major injury can be much longer than any fan hopes. And sometimes the player never makes it all the way back.

CAM and CTC were getting paid big bucks as well. Don't care about coaches' paychecks. I want to see sweet 16s-and beyond. Been 22 yrs. For a program like IU, that's beyond unacceptable.
 
Just a little, mainly because the decision, along with TG’s, represents some stability. Theoretically, each player returning who played significant minutes will be better with a year’s more experience. Also, the players returning who have played together for at least one season and in most cases 2-3 seasons will benefit from that. The adage “get old, stay old” hopefully applies here. Another adage might also be applicable: “The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores” (see Malik Reneau, for example).
I hope all that translates to better play and record.
 
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As a Purdue fan I was not happy to see Galloway returning. He has deficiencies but the kid plays hard. He drives to the basket with effectiveness. If he figures out his free throw shooting he will be solid.
He's a bum. Should be at indiana st.
 
I can't let that go you are one of the biggest idiots to ever post on this board. I said on a 13 man roster if you don't take die hard Indiana kids that give you everything on your team even if it is 6th man or 13th man cheerleader that is fine. You have never said anything remotely intelligent and I doubt you know anything about basketball. We have more basketball intelligence staff and coaching than you would ever dream about. Yes, roster management and the season were bad, but you are clueless.

I am being nice in saying that. I would not allow you to coach 6-year-old girls let alone try to coach or manage IU.

I hope you have a nice day and life wallowing in your misery.
Again you make no sense go start you Leal fanclub and donate to Woodson so he can go 15-18 next season.
 
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