RFK measles cure

[The Original Happy Goat]

Why do you need a fancy building funded by pharma money to conduct research?

You're trying to avoid the important point. Regardless of the location of the "Institute," the paper in question has been entirely discredited, is flawed in obvious ways that anyone should recognize, was written by cranks with a crank agenda, and was published in a paper that isn't accredited and might not even go through any meaningful peer review.

You're falling for a scam, in other words.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

I see a lot of character assassinating the people and organizations that conducted and published the study.

Given that all the studies you rely on are conducted by organizations largely funded by pharma, I’ll take mine thank you very much.

Or idiots taken to task for purposely spreading misinformation.

Some character assassination is well deserved given their preying on the gullible

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

You're trying to avoid the important point. Regardless of the location of the "Institute," the paper in question has been entirely discredited, is flawed in obvious ways that anyone should recognize, was written by cranks with a crank agenda, and was published in a paper that isn't accredited and might not even go through any meaningful peer review.

You're falling for a scam, in other words.

The paper was not any more flawed than most studies funded by NIH Goat.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

You're trying to avoid the important point. Regardless of the location of the "Institute," the paper in question has been entirely discredited, is flawed in obvious ways that anyone should recognize, was written by cranks with a crank agenda, and was published in a paper that isn't accredited and might not even go through any meaningful peer review.

You're falling for a scam, in other words.

Should we let him know the Nigerian prince doesn't really need his help?

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

The paper was not any more flawed than most studies funded by NIH Goat.

Sure it is. You just won't see it because you don't want to.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

The Brady Bunch bit about Measles is instructive because it shows us what the actual level of public fear was about contracting Measles pre vaccine availability.

A few days off from school is what it meant. I’d be a happy kid too.

Generations of Shooters have tried to convince us it was some kind of serious disease to justify their own existence.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

The paper was not any more flawed than most studies funded by NIH Goat.

If I bought a website and started writing articles, then would that automatically make me smarter and worthy of blind faith that what I wrote is accurate?

That is pretty much what you have when citing something that isn't at verified by peers

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

If I bought a website and started writing articles, then would that automatically make me smarter and worthy of blind faith that what I wrote is accurate?

That is pretty much what you have when citing something that isn't at verified by peers

These peers correct?

Major Medical Journals’ Peer Reviewers Received Over $1 Billion in Industry Funding

About two-thirds of peer reviewers in psychiatry/neurology received payments from the pharma/device industry.

www.madinamerica.com

Peer Reviewers Made $1 Billion in 3 Years: Dr. Fugh-Berman Featured in MedPage Today on Medical Journal Financial Conflicts - Health and the Public Interest

More than half of peer reviewers for four top medical journals received payments from drug and medical device manufacturers, totaling $1.06 billion, from 2020 to 2022, according to an analysis of the Open Payments database. This October, MedPage Today released a special report with some...

hapi.georgetown.edu

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

These peers correct?

Major Medical Journals’ Peer Reviewers Received Over $1 Billion in Industry Funding

About two-thirds of peer reviewers in psychiatry/neurology received payments from the pharma/device industry.

www.madinamerica.com

Peer Reviewers Made $1 Billion in 3 Years: Dr. Fugh-Berman Featured in MedPage Today on Medical Journal Financial Conflicts - Health and the Public Interest

More than half of peer reviewers for four top medical journals received payments from drug and medical device manufacturers, totaling $1.06 billion, from 2020 to 2022, according to an analysis of the Open Payments database. This October, MedPage Today released a special report with some...

hapi.georgetown.edu

So you found a reason to be skeptical of peer reviews but that doesn't necessarily mean those paid were lying. And it doesn't discredit those who weren't paid

That also doesn't make non-peer reviewed trustworthy. Any idiot with a keyboard and knowledge of a language can type something up without sources or anyone verifying the accuracy.

 

[UncleMark]

These peers correct?

Major Medical Journals’ Peer Reviewers Received Over $1 Billion in Industry Funding

About two-thirds of peer reviewers in psychiatry/neurology received payments from the pharma/device industry.

www.madinamerica.com

Peer Reviewers Made $1 Billion in 3 Years: Dr. Fugh-Berman Featured in MedPage Today on Medical Journal Financial Conflicts - Health and the Public Interest

More than half of peer reviewers for four top medical journals received payments from drug and medical device manufacturers, totaling $1.06 billion, from 2020 to 2022, according to an analysis of the Open Payments database. This October, MedPage Today released a special report with some...

hapi.georgetown.edu

Who should be paying the peers for conducting their reviews?

 

[All4You]

So we’re gonna stop it.

As somebody who leans "f*** your pronouns and feelings", who doesn't trust much of what comes out of the mouth of any politician above the county level, and who mostly wants to be left alone by TPTB I have to ask, who the feck is this "we" you are talking about?

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Who should be paying the peers for conducting their reviews?

I thought these were scientists and academics?

I guess the pursuit of truth isn’t enough any more. Not as noble a profession as we thought perhaps.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

I thought these were scientists academics?

I guess the pursuit of truth isn’t enough any more. Not as noble a profession as we thought perhaps.

I guess you work for free for the good of all mankind.

Big difference between being paid for doing something and being paid only if you write what I want

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

As somebody who leans "f*** your pronouns and feelings", who doesn't trust much of what comes out of the mouth of any politician above the county level, and who mostly wants to be left alone by TPTB I have to ask, who the feck is this "we" you are talking about?

Me, Bobby and everyone else who voted for an administration that actually gives a damn about health

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

I guess you work for free for the good of all mankind

If I was found to be accepting under the table money from a client, potential client or regulator, I would be fired.

 

[UncleMark]

I thought these were scientists academics?

I guess the pursuit of truth isn’t enough any more. Not as noble a profession as we thought perhaps.

So they should do it for free?

 

[UncleMark]

If I was found to be accepting under the table money from a client, potential client or regulator, I would be fired.

But these payments aren't under the table.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

But these payments aren't under the table.

So open corruption is better?

These reviewers are students and professionals. Peer review is quite literally part of their job. Are you asking why they shouldn’t be paid a third party bonus for doing their job?

 

[UncleMark]

So open corruption is better?

These reviewers are students and professionals. Peer review is quite literally part of their job. Are you asking why they shouldn’t be paid a third party bonus for doing their job?

You really should stop digging.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

You really should stop digging.

You should not ask dumb questions.

 

[UncleMark]

You should not ask dumb questions.

You're a younger and dumber version of COH.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

You're a younger and dumber version of COH.

A compliment to be sure considering how he locks you guys up all day.

 

[UncleMark]

A compliment to be sure considering how he locks you guys up all day.

Yeah, he's right up there with Catturd.

 

[Mark Milton]

Why do you need a fancy building funded by pharma money to conduct research?

I think you’ve made my point—-you wouldn’t need a thing except gutters because he isn’t really doing any research.

 

[All4You]

Me, Bobby and everyone else who voted for an administration that actually gives a damn about health

No mate this is simply a matter of confirmation bias where you are twisting yourself into a pretzel because you and someone you respect share a like opinion, in spite of the vast majority of contrary opinions yielding much simpler and straightforward Occam's Razor style explanations. Willful ignorance is bad enough when put on display by a simpleton, but even worse when it's done by someone with above average intellect.

With your proclivity of being distracted from the obvious by the most ridiculous of possible explanations, having you on a jury would be a prosecutor's worst nightmare and a criminal defense attorney's wet dream.