Clay almost nailed it @mcmurtry66. I’d flip Trump to 4 and Bush Sr. to 3. Needless to say we had pretty good Presidents in the 80s and 90s. Not so much since then. What are everyone else’s rankings?
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Clay almost nailed it @mcmurtry66. I’d flip Trump to 4 and Bush Sr. to 3. Needless to say we had pretty good Presidents in the 80s and 90s. Not so much since then. What are everyone else’s rankings?
I’ve liked Clay Travis, but after his blistering attacks on IU, fvck him.
Don’t tell Murt that. Clay’s an SEC guy = crusty chode
1) Barack Obama 2008-2016
2) Bill Clinton 1992-2000
3) Ronald Reagan 1980-1988
4) George Bush Sr. 1988-1992
5) Joe Biden 2020-2024
6) George W. Bush 2000-2008
7) Donald Trump 2016-2020
These type of things are inevitably tied to situations and outcomes in the economy and other world events that Presidents often have little influence over.
I get some feel that way because of the seriousness of the Iraq mistake, but strong disagree. The policy of both was/is lame sloganeering, but there's a decency about W that Trump utterly lacks. More importantly, when confronted with a moment of national emergency that defines a Presidency, Bush rose to the occasion and united the country while Trump shit the bed. Bush ended up throwing that away, but he was an incredibly good leader in the initial response to 9/11.
Trump and Biden both worse IMO. And not even close.
You donating to AOC for 28? Men for AOC t shirt ready to go?
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I don't give points for decency. It's all results for me. Compare the US COVID results to the rest of the West, and I think you'll see we were not an outlier. So to the extent you want to blame Trump there, the results aren't much different than what you see elsewhere.
Compare that to the U.S.'s disastrous misadventure in the Middle East, and count all the deaths the U.S. is responsible for there (Iraqi and Syrian lives matter, too) and I don't think there is any contest.
okay then. here's my final rankings
1. clinton
2. reagan
3. obama
4. bush sr
5. trump
6. W
7. Biden
Final answer
How can you not have Biden #1 in “power” rankings. He impacted more things and caused more damage in a single term than any other president ever. His negative impacts will endure for decades.
Trump should be #2, because of his impacts.
Obama should be last because his impacts are pretty meaningless except for his increasing racial tension.
The others are pretty much interchangeable.
I think there are a lot of potential correct answers, but any correct answer must follow this formula:
The top 4 are Clinton, Obama, Reagan, Bush Sr., in any order you like.
The bottom 3 are Trump, W, Biden, in any order you like.
You can make arguments for all sorts of orderings within these two groups, but it should be clear to everyone that the past seven presidents clearly divide into two groups with a huge gap between them.
