Brohm was outcoached in every sense of the word. Too much hype for a guy who beat several bad or depleted teams last year, like us. Hes another Kevin Wilson. His teams fold. They folded when we played his WKU teams. Take Nick Holt away and it would be even worse. This loss was good karma from having to listen to their pathetic IU sucks chants the whole game. Maybe they should worry about the team they're playing?
Purdue got the medicine they rightfully deserved
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Not sure what the fans chanting have to do with the players on the field. But losing by 4 when you spot the other team 21 doesn't seem "outcoached in every sense of the word" to me.
The coach had all last year, all Spring and all Fall to pick a QB.
He chose a guy who threw 3 picks in one half against the team that had the worst defense in the league last year.
Most of the time, cowboys get thrown off the bull.
Tonight, Brohm and Sindelar cost Purdue the first loss.
Won’t be the last.
Purdue's entire program bases all successes on their rivalry with Indiana. They know they are inferior and less relevant, even as a University. It's a school for Nerds. You spotted them 21 pts because your Legendary coach didnt have them ready to play. Pat Fitzgerald is twice the coach. I'm not judging. I'd swap coaches with Northwestern tomorrow.
I’ll give you guys this:
The Rondale Moore kid is mature beyond his years. He is dynamic. The defense looks suspect up front but got better as the game went on but they look susceptible on the pass rush and a veteran DL guy has to know better at a crucial time than to salt the game away for the other team. Sindelar tried to be a hero and threw wild, off balance balls into coverage. That killed you. We know all too well. IU has seen it’s share of INTs with QBs that made risky throws. Cannot throw stones there at all. It is excruciating to watch as a fan.
No clue what Sindelar was doing that last pick. His 2nd pick was just a great play by the defender. 1st one our guy got tackled tracking the ball, poorly I should add.
Purdue had a chance to win and blew it 4 times, the 3 picks and the penalty by Neal. Can't do that against good teams.
I have said for years that Pat Fitzgerald is THE best coach in this league. His teams play sound, tough, smart. So many people point to Urban Meyer. Shit, with that kind of talent, I bet even fpeaugh could coach them to a conference title every year.
The best measure of a coach is: does he maximize the hand he has been dealt. Fitz has a system and a profile of player he gets. He gets every ounce out of his kids. He’s a players coach. No antics. No stupidity. That program is a total family unit because of him. Amazing coach who completely “gets it” and understands the Northwestern culture from the ground up.
PUke's homecoming queen looks a little despondent.
We say that, but they came out in the second half and played not to lose offensively. They came up just short on third down at least 4 times simply because of the conservative play calling. Give PU credit, but NU gave them the opportunity. All NU had to do was basically score once in H2 and it is over. That wasn't great coaching. Great to see Trent's son play well, awesome family and the kid has come a long way.
Blough got mashed on the flea flicker glad he was ok, that has to hurt this morning.
Agree Fitz is the best coach in the conference. Northwestern will straight up punch you in the mouth. He gets max effort from those kids. He has a solid program going and he does it with 3 star kids. They are not setting the world on fire recruiting. He gets 3-5 Texas kids every cycle and the rest are midwest kids.
Even though they have the taj mahal being built on Lake Michigan recruiting is not improving. Thats why when I see all these morons on this board thinking 4-5 syar kids are gonna come if we build football only this or that I just laugh.
Anyways, it was highly unlikely that king brohm was gonna beat a Fitzgerald coached team.
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I thought it was a good game on both sides for week one. IU would have hands full playing either one.
Can’t wait to see how we look tomorrow.
Go Hoosiers!
Can’t wait to see how we look tomorrow.
Go Hoosiers!
Ummmm….didn't we do the same thing with Lagow last season? First game was okay but went south quickly. Did you blame Allen for his performance? Just asking...
Lagow was a big part of the reason we only won 5 games. Was Debord to blame for that too? I just think people saw that game differently than I did. Mistakes killed PU last night...we understand that well don't we? At times in the 2nd half PUs D shut down UNs O completely. Good adjustments at halftime. It didn't last. We know that too.
Even with all that, they almost pulled off the upset, against a slightly wounded team...but blew it...we know that well too. Careful throwing rocks...
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Big difference between week 1 and the end of November.
I expect IU to get better as the season goes on and Purdue to get dinged up by injuries.
I agree. And I think Allen looks to be the same type of coach. Time will tell, but I think the future is bright for both programs - if Brohm stays at PU
“Blame” is probably too strong for me.
I was “disappointed” that we chose Lagow as the opening starter. I always thought his lack of a run game was very limiting - and our window was already kinda small. We needed a guy who could run his way out of trouble and Richard was just not that guy.
But we were facing Ohio State and sending Ramsey against them in his first ever game was understandably a less reasonable option. Plus, I’d say we had much less chance of beating OSU than Purdue had off beating NW.
But I would also admit to being surprised at how well Lagow did against OSU. But it was also clear that “the plan” was to move to Ramsey as soon as they could.
Plus, choosing between Lagow/Ramsey was a little different than Blough/Sindelar. Senior/freshman vs. 2 experienced guys.
Mostly though, I’m just poking the guys who continue to claim that the Purdue/Brohm/Football-Only-Building trifecta has left us behind. They think their agenda is invisible. They act like everyone else is stupid. They lie by omission. And according to THEM, Purdue was gonna roll. Anybody who watches our league closely knew that was not gonna happen. I don’t know what the line was, but I was not surprised it came down to the last possession. NW was either gonna score and salt it away, or make a defensive play to stop Purdue’s last drive, the knucklehead who got that last penalty made that choice irrelevant. (That call doesn’t get made in a lot of games. NW got a couple of breaks like that. But they played well enough to deserve to win, and closer to their potential than Purdue.)
I’d vote for Dantonio, but I wouldn’t fight you very hard over it.
I think Fitz is a less-religious Allen.
Both are players-coaches.
I really really really want Allen to win this year.
I think it’s unfair to demand a guy win in year 2, but welcome to the digital age.
Given how PU acted like last year's 6-6 bowl eligible by beating IU year (followed by chants last night), I love to see the Karma gods come home to roost. PU has two more possibly tough home games non-conference: BC and Mizzou. I'm sorry, but I hope PU loses both. I'm not one who wants them to be ahead of IU and they need a humbling year after putting Brohm on Mt. Rushmore of coaches after last year.
Watched most of 2nd half, PU defense looked like they were getting a bit gassed (as they were lights out in 3Q, but a lot less so in 4Q. Don't think their RB is going to go off like that every game once there's more tape analysis done and defenses are more prepared.
Fact is, I don't think PU is an awful team, but I think their schedule this year (they'll lose the OSU & Wiscy home games), likely for sure the at MSU and Nebraska games. That's 5 losses right there leaving very little room for error. Should they lose either of the 2 non-conf home (Mizzou/BC) games, things could go south on them quickly as road B10 games even against the Minn/IL or home against IA could get messy. And that's ALL before at IU for the bucket.
That is why you don't chant "IU sucks" at home game against NU on national TV. They could go anywhere from 5-7 to 2-9 this season if things get away from them. (Beat Eastern MI & at Illinois, lose rest)
Then would recruiting stay the same if IU is going bowling?
Watched most of 2nd half, PU defense looked like they were getting a bit gassed (as they were lights out in 3Q, but a lot less so in 4Q. Don't think their RB is going to go off like that every game once there's more tape analysis done and defenses are more prepared.
Fact is, I don't think PU is an awful team, but I think their schedule this year (they'll lose the OSU & Wiscy home games), likely for sure the at MSU and Nebraska games. That's 5 losses right there leaving very little room for error. Should they lose either of the 2 non-conf home (Mizzou/BC) games, things could go south on them quickly as road B10 games even against the Minn/IL or home against IA could get messy. And that's ALL before at IU for the bucket.
That is why you don't chant "IU sucks" at home game against NU on national TV. They could go anywhere from 5-7 to 2-9 this season if things get away from them. (Beat Eastern MI & at Illinois, lose rest)
Then would recruiting stay the same if IU is going bowling?
You know BM I don't know. I guess I made an assumption based on the past few years. That changes one dynamic but not many others. It was a close game...not bad for the first for either team even with PUs QB struggles. If wrong, I stand corrected. Thank you...I hate being wrong...vbg
PUke fans chant "IU sucks" at all of their games...football or basketball - hell probably baseball and soccer too. Their inferiority complex is quite humorous.
But Brohm is still a good coach, and they are recruiting better athletes just like we are. I like it when The Bucket games mean something for both teams - hopefully we're getting there.
Not a big deal. I wasn't sure myself. I just went back and checked - - it appears Purdue was a couple of points favorite, which basically accounts for the home field.
I think there's a good chance both teams will be playing for their sixth win on 11/24.
It opened at purdue -2.5 and went down to 1 at game time I believe.
I think you're right on that. Would not surprise me. Purdue has a pretty hard schedule and really need to find a way to start 4-2. So now need to win four out of the next five. Interested to see how IU looks against FIU
Complied by a PU grad...who cant add...vbg. Bloomington beats LAff...every day...on Sundays and Holidays...in the snow and in the sun. You are dreaming. Yours is one butt ugly town...period. Obviously you haven't been here. Herd not roam that far?...I understand...vbg.
One other thing..How many times has LAff been selected a top college town??? ooops...
I lived in Bloomington for 15 years. I worked for IU. I have a masters degree from IU. I know the town, probably better than most on this board. It's a fine town. I'd still pick West Lafayette over Bloomington for a number of reasons that would go over the heads of 98% of the people here, many who have never been to the town but cheer for IU because it is the default school in the state.
No point in arguing since all I will hear is how ugly all the girls are at Purdue, how many farmers are there, how they can't win an NCAA title in basketball (even on a football forum), etc.
Maybe purdue wins, maybe purdue loses if that idiot #9 doesnt throw the running back to the ground but it’s the very same stuff IU players have done for years - committing stupid penalties at the inopportune times. Purdue played well enough in the second half to have a chance to win but that knucklehead blew it for them. Kick him off the team.
Per PU, I do admire Mitch Daniels greatly and do like it being a great academic institution in the state. Perhaps both doing well for a better bowl game is nice, but I admit wanting IU to be the superior FB program always. So I won’t cry if PU takes some lumps this year and IU thrives to put some of that “4 bucket games won in a row for IU” separation back out there!
The problem with both programs is that one's success is often dependent on the other being down. We've seen this play out throughout the last 30 years.
Mallory's success was directly tied to Purdue being fairly putrid during his tenure. The same can be said for Tiller's success. IU was way down for most of Joe's tenure and it certainly lifted the Purdue program. KW had Purdue on the ropes for a nice stretch that saw IU bowl in back to back seasons.
Not really sure where the programs are heading right now. I like the Tom Allen approach at IU, plus, Allen is probably here for the long haul if he has success. Allen will always be notable for proving that good defense can certainly be achievable in Bloomington.
Brohm is more than likely a flash in the pan for Purdue. I grew up around Louisville, Brohm is a Louisville son through and through. I was going to Louisville football games when Howard was a fresh hire and they were hosting Johnny Majors' Tennessee Volunteers in the old baseball stadium!! Brohm flirting very openly with Big Orange this past winter speaks to his open mindedness about entertaining other options.
I do think if both programs could be simultaneously successful, it would be with these two coaches.
Mallory's success was directly tied to Purdue being fairly putrid during his tenure. The same can be said for Tiller's success. IU was way down for most of Joe's tenure and it certainly lifted the Purdue program. KW had Purdue on the ropes for a nice stretch that saw IU bowl in back to back seasons.
Not really sure where the programs are heading right now. I like the Tom Allen approach at IU, plus, Allen is probably here for the long haul if he has success. Allen will always be notable for proving that good defense can certainly be achievable in Bloomington.
Brohm is more than likely a flash in the pan for Purdue. I grew up around Louisville, Brohm is a Louisville son through and through. I was going to Louisville football games when Howard was a fresh hire and they were hosting Johnny Majors' Tennessee Volunteers in the old baseball stadium!! Brohm flirting very openly with Big Orange this past winter speaks to his open mindedness about entertaining other options.
I do think if both programs could be simultaneously successful, it would be with these two coaches.
Okay but are you just a normie, meat and potatoes dude, or are you at all engaged with art and culture?
I went to IU for 2 degrees, 7 years worth, and have a son who went to Purdue....so I also have 4 years of visits to W.L.....so I am very familiar with both B-Ton & W.L.......and I can't imagine wtf you are talking about.
I wouldn't say that. I have spent thousands on tickets to broadway shows, season tickets at the IU Auditorium and am vegan. You'd think because of that I'd prefer Bloomington. I prefer the more conservative atmosphere and small town values that Bloomington lacks.
This is a game that Purdue probably wins last year. NW with a limited starting QB and having to split time with a walk-on. They caught a few teams that were not at their best last year when they played them. They also had a chip on their shoulder and played with an edge. After some success last season and everyone talking them up that edge will be a little harder to come by this year. That along with a tougher schedule will be a real test for Brohm.
Wow, a gay joke. Stay classy, PUke. I suppose this is where I could make a zoophilia joke, but I won’t stoop to your level.
