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Purdue football is the Titanic

FWIW, after Odom, I wanted Brent Vigan. Odom had more than one good year, knows how to churn a roster in the present day, has averaged 7.3 wins a year, and has P5 experience. If he can come in and make the floor 6-6 and the ceiling 8-4, I would take that at this exact moment. Once you establish the 6-6 floor though, the ceiling can start to rise on a program at the same time. Get the right schedule, then win 10.

I'm guessing that at one point in the past you wished for Gerry Faust, too.
 
NIL may be their biggest problem. They have added a lot of players that have not played much at previous college stops. Just like last year. Some players are freshmen but a lot have bounced around with no playing time. So they are coming to PU to try to play. Not a lot of previous productive experience. That is the situation they are in. How many PU starters stayed? Not many at all.
Only a few have bounced around and didn’t come from UNLV. Definitely the minority.
 
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Indiana has a couple of billionaire backers that Purdue doesn't have. Billionaires run the show, that's more apparent nowadays than ever before.
I’m curious what it looks like in a year. But this is a big difference. Purdue doesn’t have that main sports sugar daddy. All goes to the university. Maybe Brees will become one in time.
 
Link to this "unlimited" staff budget? lol
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Link to his staff budget? It’s listed in his contract as “whatever you need” essentially.
essentially?

what's it say exactly?

No contract in history says "you can have as much money as you want". And I highly doubt you believe that is the best staff money could buy with a blank check.
 
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essentially?

what's it say exactly?

No contract in history says "you can have as much money as you want". And I highly doubt you believe that is the best staff money could buy with a blank check.
Just to save us the back and forth, here is the truth per the IndyStar: "In a summary of key contract elements provided by Purdue Athletics, regarding a staff salary pool, it reads 'Purdue and Coach to work collaboratively to provide the resources and support necessary to hire Assistant Coaches and other football program staff as mutually agreed upon. Staff structure and compensation to be competitive with Big Ten and other peer programs.'"

So, it's not "unlimited." What a surprise.
 
essentially?

what's it say exactly?

No contract in history says "you can have as much money as you want". And I highly doubt you believe that is the best staff money could buy with a blank check.
See the other post. Dude quoted it, then said it’s not unlimited even though it doesn’t provide a dollar amount. So he isn’t even sure. Could be similar to iu’s for all he knows.

What’s wrong with the staff? Is it not good? Good DC, good ST coach, little bit of an unknown as an OC, but he can certainly build an OL, so we will see what happens. Assistants look good. Lots of analyst. Obviously not bamas staff, but looks good.
 
See the other post. Dude quoted it, then said it’s not unlimited even though it doesn’t provide a dollar amount. So he isn’t even sure. Could be similar to iu’s for all he knows.

What’s wrong with the staff? Is it not good? Good DC, good ST coach, little bit of an unknown as an OC, but he can certainly build an OL, so we will see what happens. Assistants look good. Lots of analyst. Obviously not bamas staff, but looks good.
Nothing is wrong with it but I doubt they are the who's who of highest paid at their positions, which would be the case if you were right that Purdue gave Odom a blank check for his staff.

Sounds more like Purdue was being purposely vague and making sure they had control over assistant hires vs how iu gave cigs an amount in which he could use as he saw fit. But even cigs had a limit on what he could spend, just like every other coach.

Regardless, your claims of blank check for assistants is horse ....
 
See the other post. Dude quoted it, then said it’s not unlimited even though it doesn’t provide a dollar amount. So he isn’t even sure. Could be similar to iu’s for all he knows.

What’s wrong with the staff? Is it not good? Good DC, good ST coach, little bit of an unknown as an OC, but he can certainly build an OL, so we will see what happens. Assistants look good. Lots of analyst. Obviously not bamas staff, but looks good.
It's not unlimited because it says other staff must be "mutually agreed upon" and structure/comp is "competitive," which is very much not "unlimited." FYI it's worse they didn't put a staff budget number in there, that is a more noncommittal approach.

And as IndyResident pointed out, PU's hires are not particularly expensive people. That's fine, but it's clear PU is not spending big on staff. And thinking staff budget is unlimited is naive to begin with.
 
Nothing is wrong with it but I doubt they are the who's who of highest paid at their positions, which would be the case if you were right that Purdue gave Odom a blank check for his staff.

Sounds more like Purdue was being purposely vague and making sure they had control over assistant hires vs how iu gave cigs an amount in which he could use as he saw fit. But even cigs had a limit on what he could spend, just like every other coach.

Regardless, your claims of blank check for assistants is horse ....
Special teams coach might be one of the top in the county. Defensive coordinator looks good. It’s hard to say if it has anything to do with iu. They might be paying a similar amount.
 
It's not unlimited because it says other staff must be "mutually agreed upon" and structure/comp is "competitive," which is very much not "unlimited." FYI it's worse they didn't put a staff budget number in there, that is a more noncommittal approach.

And as IndyResident pointed out, PU's hires are not particularly expensive people. That's fine, but it's clear PU is not spending big on staff. And thinking staff budget is unlimited is naive to begin with.
I guess that’s your opinion. Again, i think the staff looks pretty solid. And lots of analyst and back room people. But I disagree on the noncommittal part. Purdue proved to be pretty committed to being good at football this offseason.
 
I guess that’s your opinion. Again, i think the staff looks pretty solid. And lots of analyst and back room people. But I disagree on the noncommittal part. Purdue proved to be pretty committed to being good at football this offseason.
You don't understand what we're saying. But who cares at this point -- we get it, you like PU so you like whatever PU does.
 
You don't understand what we're saying. But who cares at this point -- we get it, you like PU so you like whatever PU does.
No. I understand just fine. You said Purdue took a non committal approach because it has to be “mutually agreed upon” even though that amount could be 12 million for all you know. I say Purdue is committed because they have spent 25 million + this offseason to fix football. 25 mil that I think was said Purdue couldn’t afford because they have no money on this board at some point.
 
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You can literally sub out Odom for Walters for most of his posts about Walters.
Na. I think Walter’s is the right hire, but I’m much more cautious. He’s definitely better than a 4-8 at best coach. He’s probably better than a 6-6 at best coach. But it could take a couple years to build it up. There are stats to prove Odom is better.
 
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No. I understand just fine. You said Purdue took a non committal approach because it has to be “mutually agreed upon” even though that amount could be 12 million for all you know. I say Purdue is committed because they have spent 25 million + this offseason to fix football. 25 mil that I think was said Purdue couldn’t afford because they have no money on this board at some point.
Confirmed again you don’t get it.
 
I’m curious what it looks like in a year. But this is a big difference. Purdue doesn’t have that main sports sugar daddy. All goes to the university. Maybe Brees will become one in time.
You will need 500 of them at Brees’ level. He has millions but lots of people do and the need is staggering these days
 
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Pretty sure they have kept 8 from their portal class, not 4.

Odd you would say they only kept Ball at OL. Was thinking they kept most of their second string. They have lost a lot of really good players though.

I have no idea how you can make a prediction right now without seeing the team and what it looks like on the field. One thing that makes me feel better is that even though they are bringing in young guys with minimal experience, they are all guys that have connections to the coaching staff, so they should know the player very well. I like the QB from Arkansas coming in.
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Na. I think Walter’s is the right hire, but I’m much more cautious. He’s definitely better than a 4-8 at best coach. He’s probably better than a 6-6 at best coach. But it could take a couple years to build it up. There are stats to prove Odom is better.
Do you enjoy these threads? I've been trying to figure out why you post here and continue to come back when the threads always devolve to this level. Whether that's your fault or not, it just seems odd.
 
See the other post. Dude quoted it, then said it’s not unlimited even though it doesn’t provide a dollar amount. So he isn’t even sure. Could be similar to iu’s for all he knows.

What’s wrong with the staff? Is it not good? Good DC, good ST coach, little bit of an unknown as an OC, but he can certainly build an OL, so we will see what happens. Assistants look good. Lots of analyst. Obviously not bamas staff, but looks good.
Bama's staff isn't all bad; half came from IU
 
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