Playoff vs Bowl
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Playoff loss — road or home. Shows we made the thing that matters and competed in it.
Also, not sure there are any major bowls outside of the playoff anymore.
Also, not sure there are any major bowls outside of the playoff anymore.
What 'major' bowl exists any longer? The NY6 bowls are all part of the playoff.
Home playoff WIN!
I know that’s not what you asked, but I can’t be negative about this team!
I know that’s not what you asked, but I can’t be negative about this team!
I gotta be honest, it feels like any bowl game outside the CFP is at best a consolation prize.
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I doubt that I would have complained about this in the past as a fan of the OLD Indiana but, excluding the six CFP bowl games, there are 36 bowls this season. They include the "LA Bowl Hosted By Gronk," and the "Snoop Dog Arizona Bowl Presented by Gin and Juice By Dre and Snoop." It's gotten ridiculous.
I know these games are often a boon for the local economies, but the post-season should not include 72 teams playing in meaningless games in which the best players usually opt out.
I know these games are often a boon for the local economies, but the post-season should not include 72 teams playing in meaningless games in which the best players usually opt out.
There are no major bowls outside of the playoff. At this point, a bowl game would be a letdown and after the opt-outs we'd see, I'd choose not to attend.
I’m not sure we’d have opt outs. Feels like Cigs Culture would prevent that. But you’re 100% correct about the rest.
Agreed that Cig has a great culture, but we'd still have opt-outs in a non-CFP bowl. And if it was my kid who was projected for the next NFL draft, I would encourage him to opt out. Why risk a serious injury and a lucrative pro deal by playing in a meaningless game?
Why aren't the previous games meaningless games also? None of them mean anything except wins and prestige for the school. Why would a regular season game have more prestige than another end of season game? That's the part I don't understand.
And if you're good enough that you're playing to show off your talent to the NFL, how is the final game of the regular season good for that but not a bowl game?
I know they're viewed as meaningless by many players, not nearly all. But I've never understood where is the cutoff line... why not the seventh game of the season? Maybe after the team has lost three games, four games, and won't be going to a good bowl no matter how they finish?
You're right, of course. At least to the extent that every game going forward for any team eliminated from postseason play is meaningless in the same way a bowl game is meaningless.
Maybe the only significant difference is timing. 6-8 weeks is a long time post-season. Like when Simon Stepaniak tore his ACL during bowl game practice. He still got drafted by the Packers, but it certainly had an effect on when he was drafted and he never ended up playing an NFL game. For less serious injuries, getting healed up and trained ahead of the combine & pro-days can mean the difference of 100s of thousands of dollars to these kids.
be careful what you ask for. You might start seeing more mid-season opt-outs once teams can no longer get in teh CFP or get into their conference championships game.
I assume NIL i sone thing keeping them going. But at the end of the season, the NIL is over, I presume.
Eventually the playoffs will expand and the meaningless bowls will die out I think. Especially if there are 4 super conferences with 20 teams. It will be 24 teams in the CFP in no time imo.
Timing. Bowl games are in some cases less than two months before the Combine. Not much time to heal. Even a nagging hammy could be enormously consequential for a prospect’s career and bank account.
In any event, this may be moot soon. There’s speculation that NIL money is going to be tied to contracts, with NIL players contractually obligated to play in the postseason unless demonstrably injured.
Yep. I said in #7 above that I wouldn’t have complained about the ridiculous number of bowls back in the day (like four years ago)!
Here’s the thing. Making the 12-team field is an impressive accomplishment and a great recruiting advantage. Winning the Snoop Dog, Gronk or even the Citrus? Not so much.
Seriously, bowls are meaning less. You want to “be in the game.”
I would much rather freeze my tail off at Memorial Stadium on Dec 21 watching us in the playoffs than attending some meaningless bowl in Florida. Speaking of the playoffs, if we host I wonder what the ticket situation will be? School is out for semester, so presumably the student section would become general public tickets?
Also, MBB has a home game on Dec 21 at noon (vs. Chattanooga), which is the day of first round CFP games.
Also, MBB has a home game on Dec 21 at noon (vs. Chattanooga), which is the day of first round CFP games.
The only way IU is hosting is if it wins at Ohio St. If the Hoosiers can do that, that would be amazing and I would be all in for the playoffs.
Playoffs would be a great accomplishment, but a 1st round road loss (after an Ohio St. defeat) isn't going to make me feel giddy. Gonna hear a lot about how they didn't belong.
Playoffs would be a great accomplishment, but a 1st round road loss (after an Ohio St. defeat) isn't going to make me feel giddy. Gonna hear a lot about how they didn't belong.
IMO, a very close game loss vs osu and IU could still end up with 8 seed. We avoid the BT CG, and avoid playing Oregon (unless osu loses to mich).
Question: if osu beats IU, but loses to mich, do we play in BT CG?
College Football Playoff all day, every day.
Would much rather say we made the first ever 12 team CFP than any bowl game. Plus, it puts more money in his pocket.
The contract terms stated:
“If Indiana reaches a bowl game that is not part of the College Football Playoff, Cignetti would receive an annual bonus of $200,000, plus an additional $50,000 if Indiana wins. Should Indiana make it all the way to the College Football Playoff, which will follow a new 12-team format in 2024, a first-round appearance triggers a $500,000 bonus. Cignetti would earn a $600,000 bonus for a quarterfinal appearance; a $700,000 bonus for a semifinal appearance; $1,000,000 if Indiana is the national runner-up; and $2,000,000 for winning the national championship. Again, these CFP-related bonuses are not cumulative.”
Would much rather say we made the first ever 12 team CFP than any bowl game. Plus, it puts more money in his pocket.
The contract terms stated:
“If Indiana reaches a bowl game that is not part of the College Football Playoff, Cignetti would receive an annual bonus of $200,000, plus an additional $50,000 if Indiana wins. Should Indiana make it all the way to the College Football Playoff, which will follow a new 12-team format in 2024, a first-round appearance triggers a $500,000 bonus. Cignetti would earn a $600,000 bonus for a quarterfinal appearance; a $700,000 bonus for a semifinal appearance; $1,000,000 if Indiana is the national runner-up; and $2,000,000 for winning the national championship. Again, these CFP-related bonuses are not cumulative.”
We're spoiled already. It seems a lot of people around here have completely forgotten the history of IU football.
Turns out this is pretty easy to get used to. Championship or bust!
Yeah I guess it's just human nature. The more good stuff you get the more you want.
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