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Player telling Woodson to have class

Dolson needs to take immediate action and use some of that good will He has built up with his hire of Cignetti and success of the football program. He is head of the Athletic Department, meddling wannabe Trustees be damned. If I were Dolson, I sit Woodson down tomorrow morning and tell Him in no uncertain terms that He will not sit back and watch the Basketball Program crash and burn and turn into a Dumpster fire on his watch. If Woodson wants any chance to be back next Year, He and this team need to accomplish one of the following objectives:
1. Win The Regular Season Conference Title.
2. Win the Conference Tournament
3. Make it to the final 8 of the NCAA Tournament.
In addition, if actual attendance (Asses in Seats, not Tickets sold) drops to below than 15,000 for any remaining Home Game, He is done. We care leaving too much concession and ancillary Revenue on the table if attendance drops.
It's time for the Adults in the room to take charge.

Why would he be given ANY chance of returning?
We have seen who he is and what kind of "coach" he is. Returning should not be an option.

I agree with sitting him down but it should go like this, IMO.
Mike, the golf course is beckoning you so step down tomorrow due to "health" reasons or be fired the next day.
 
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yeah, **** that guy, every poor bastard under Biden will be a poor bastard under trump, they say no politics on here, pissed off over the game don't need to hear from some dumb ****
TDS ALERT!!!

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He's gone. There's no way IU keeps him. Had his chance and failed.

Hope we keep Rice, Carlyle, Tucker, Sisley, and the new recruit. Nice core to build around. Fill in with experienced upperclassman..
I'd like to have MR back. I expect he hits xfer portal unless IU makes big fish coach hire.
 
$12million agrees with you
From https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...diana-basketball-owe-to-fire-him/72850648007/

Under the terms of his original contract, Woodson would have been owed 100% of remaining compensation through March 31, 2025, and then 50% thereafter. In addition to his raise in 2023 summer, Woodson also gained an extra year of full buyout protection. Indiana would now owe all remaining guaranteed compensation — roughly $8.4 million and reducing monthly — through March 30, 2026.
But the amendment also contained a caveat uncommon in IU’s recent contractual history: If it so chooses, Indiana can fulfill its buyout obligation via annual lump sum payments of $1 million.

Typically, buyouts must be paid over the normal life of their contract, in monthly installments as though the coach in question were essentially just still on payroll. Like most such contracts, Woodson also has a duty to mitigate his buyout by seeking similar employment in basketball. Any compensation he received from such employment would reduce IU’s concurrent obligation.

Under the terms of the language inserted into his contract via the 2023 amendment, however, Indiana could stretch Woodson’s buyout into annual $1 million installments, substantially alleviating the immediate financial burden on the university.

Woodson’s mitigation duty would only apply through the life of his current deal, which runs through March 31, 2027. After that date, he would have no responsibility to seek employment mitigating Indiana’s buyout responsibility to him.
 
Not modern history. Our top 10 program history ends around 2000 or before.
According to a post on the Purdue board, IU and Purdue are currently tied for 10th in most all-time wins. So, technically, IU is still a top 10 program at this moment and could still be one with a win on Friday.
 
I couldn’t tell for sure but I think Rosemond and Woodson argued on bench at the end. That may have been why he was stomping away in anger. Rosemond was heading to locker room without shaking hands. It really is a shit show.
Yeah, I saw it on TV... I could be wrong I guess, but I'm 99% sure I could tell Woodson barked something at Rosemond.
 
The crazy thing is I don’t get where all the cockiness comes from. He wasn’t good at all in the NBA. He was fired in both head coaching jobs he had.
TBF, everybody in the NBA, or pros really, get fired at some point. Even Belicheck and Reid got fired a couple of times. But you are right he wasn't a good NBA coach.
 
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TBF, everybody in the NBA, or pros really, get fired at some point. Even Belicheck and Reid got fired a couple of times.
I guess you could argue that any NBA coach is among the top 30 basketball coaches in the world at that point. Even if it's not always true, they probably develop that mindset.
 
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From https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...diana-basketball-owe-to-fire-him/72850648007/

Under the terms of his original contract, Woodson would have been owed 100% of remaining compensation through March 31, 2025, and then 50% thereafter. In addition to his raise in 2023 summer, Woodson also gained an extra year of full buyout protection. Indiana would now owe all remaining guaranteed compensation — roughly $8.4 million and reducing monthly — through March 30, 2026.
But the amendment also contained a caveat uncommon in IU’s recent contractual history: If it so chooses, Indiana can fulfill its buyout obligation via annual lump sum payments of $1 million.

Typically, buyouts must be paid over the normal life of their contract, in monthly installments as though the coach in question were essentially just still on payroll. Like most such contracts, Woodson also has a duty to mitigate his buyout by seeking similar employment in basketball. Any compensation he received from such employment would reduce IU’s concurrent obligation.

Under the terms of the language inserted into his contract via the 2023 amendment, however, Indiana could stretch Woodson’s buyout into annual $1 million installments, substantially alleviating the immediate financial burden on the university.

Woodson’s mitigation duty would only apply through the life of his current deal, which runs through March 31, 2027. After that date, he would have no responsibility to seek employment mitigating Indiana’s buyout responsibility to him.
by seeking similar employment in basketball. 6th grade girls coach Mike Woodson will make 32k at insert school and receive 999,968 from IU
 
I was curious, so I looked up the Knight years after his last great season, '92-93 (Big 10 champs, Elite 8). After that, IU only spent 10 weeks total in the AP Top 10 over 7 years. Highest rank was #8.
I asked Chat GPT, Grok, and Gemini to rank the top 5 college basketball programs of all time up to the year 2000:

Chat GPT & Gemini:
1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. North Carolina
4. Duke
5. Indiana

Grok:
1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. Duke
4. Indiana
5. North Carolina

Grok's criteria included NBA draft picks.

Combined:

1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
T3. North Carolina
T3. Duke
5. Indiana

So yes, Indiana was a Top 5 program up to the year 2000. Kansas was the consensus number six.
 
I asked Chat GPT, Grok, and Gemini to rank the top 5 college basketball programs of all time up to the year 2000:

Chat GPT & Gemini:
1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. North Carolina
4. Duke
5. Indiana

Grok:
1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. Duke
4. Indiana
5. North Carolina

Grok's criteria included NBA draft picks.

Combined:

1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
T3. North Carolina
T3. Duke
5. Indiana

So yes, Indiana was a Top 5 program up to the year 2000. Kansas was the consensus number six.
I like this post but would have IU higher. :)
 
I asked Chat GPT, Grok, and Gemini to rank the top 5 college basketball programs of all time up to the year 2000:

Chat GPT & Gemini:
1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. North Carolina
4. Duke
5. Indiana

Grok:
1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. Duke
4. Indiana
5. North Carolina

Grok's criteria included NBA draft picks.

Combined:

1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
T3. North Carolina
T3. Duke
5. Indiana

So yes, Indiana was a Top 5 program up to the year 2000. Kansas was the consensus number six.
Thanks for sharing this! That's really fascinating comparing those criteria to the AP rankings over those last 7 years. And it really gets to how IU basketball would make a fascinating Michael Lewis book (Moneyball) as many of the topics in the book apply here.

As you can see when you compare the stats I posted and the ones you shared, IU by everyone's measure was a top 5 program for what they had done in the past, not for what they were actually doing on the court in those last 7 years of the decade. And that really gets to the heart of what's been wrong with this program for a long time: the massive disconnect between the past and the actual current product on the court.
 
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