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I'm convinced the creativity of foul language is a sure sign of higher intelligence.
Mostly b/c I can truly PAINT and have invented several words on my own.
Political stunts are dumb, no argument there. I’m not a fan of them either.
That said, when they’re up against the other side who gets cheers for saying America is for Americans, calling Kamala Harris the antichrist, and some legit racist stuff, I’m not really going to quibble on political stunts that don't land.
At least be consistent. Political stunts are stupid regardless of political views and should be criticized for each. Trump is notorious for cringey things.
Yeah, both campaigns have done cringey political stunts. That's where the 'both sides are equally bad' thing ends for me though. A lot of the crap coming out of the Trump campaign the last week or so go way beyond political views. At best, they're not shutting/disavowing down racist ideology at this point. With that said, Walz put little football helmets on his toes at a campaign rally and wonder why it doesn't give him more legit football bonafides and I still wouldn't care, based on who and what he's up against.
Dems - internment camps
Rep. Dingell tells Jake Tapper he might 'have to visit' her in an internment camp if Trump wins | Fox News
Former President Trump was endorsed by Muslim leaders in Michigan on Saturday
Talk about being off the rails. The look on Tapper's face is priceless.Dems - internment camps
Rep. Dingell tells Jake Tapper he might 'have to visit' her in an internment camp if Trump wins | Fox News
Former President Trump was endorsed by Muslim leaders in Michigan on Saturdaywww.foxnews.com
It sounds hyperbolic and over reactionary, but the US evoked the Alien and Sedition Act of 1798 to put Japanese and German American citizens in internment camps during WWII.Dems - internment camps
Rep. Dingell tells Jake Tapper he might 'have to visit' her in an internment camp if Trump wins | Fox News
Former President Trump was endorsed by Muslim leaders in Michigan on Saturday
I don't believe there will be actual internment camps, but a lot of American-born citizens are going to get caught up in the mess Trump would cause by trying to mass deport millions of people.
It’s a vapid theme from a party bereft of anything to run on. Progressive bs is stupid. Defund. Bail projects. Endless free cheese. Open borders. Goose steppers who have sucked off the gov teat their entire lives and want more gov. If they had anything to run on they’d be touting that not this nonsense.
Not surprised, since Trump has already invoked FDR in defense of those types of policies.
Would have to believe defensive teams practice and run offensive blocking schemes predicated on a pass interception.
Ditto for defensive players following picking up loose fumbles and heading to the goal line.
One of my pet peeves is watching defensive players stand around as if a spectator and not blocking after an interception by a teammate.
My guess is that right before this interview this guy heard that Trump wanted his subordinates to act more like Hitler's generals and said, 'hold my beer.'
Why do you think that question about deporting whole families was asked in the tweet you shared?
Tough decision. Parents here illegally that had an anchor baby will need to decide between keeping the family unit intact or being deported without their kids.
That’s the price of breaking the law.
Do you think it’s at all plausible that some other people here legally get swept up in this mass deportation mess if/when the Trump Administration sends the military/reserves door to to demanding to see people’s papers?
I really don’t see how a legal resident could accidentally be deported. That is super easy to verify on the federal level.
There are more elegant measures for identifying unlawful residents than sending gestapo door to door. That is scaremongering and won’t happen.
The mass deportation on the scale you’re worried about won’t happen either. But I like that they’re anchoring to that position.
Do you really believe that they're going to send the military door to door and demand papers?
I don’t believe they’re counting on people volunteering to be deported.
I'd like to know how they will determine who to shake down.
I’m not certain it’ll actually happen on that level either. Trump snd his proxies are certainly talking about it.
Just curious - what more elegant measures do you think the Trump administration could/would use for mass deportation of millions of people.
That’s not clear to me either. I thought I read somewhere that the army reserves would be charged with finding and deporting immigrants, but I could be wrong about that.
Penalties for companies that hire illegals would create some voluntary outmigration. Also you could conceivably incentivize business to report applicants who can’t demonstrate proof of citizenship or legal status. Nice carrot and stick.
Starting with arrest records for unlawful residents could help locate some that need to be deported immediately. As well as penalizing sanctuary jurisdictions who violate federal law by withholding federal funds. It also amazing what you can do with voter rolls and cross referencing Social Security data to identify unlawful residents and their last known address.
There of course will be some that disappear into the dark corners of society and be hard to identify. But sending people door to door is not an efficient use of resources.
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The amount of sheer manpower it would take to do it precludes it from happening. Constitutionality and back lash aside, it would be impossible to "round them up send them home" by going door to door.
They can't keep Venezuelan gangs from taking over apartment buildings or BLM protesters from burning out businesses. Zero percent chance they're able to go door to door and demand papers to see who is here illegally.
It'll be much more random and opportunistic. Illegals getting popped for crimes are probably screwed, but the vast majority will continue to fly under the radar.
MAGA is going to be disappointed.
And what about the cost? We're talking numbers second only to DoD spending. It's estimated that the annual cost to deport a million people a year would be $88 billion. And then there are the operational issues. The law enforcement capacity needed to both secure the border and carry out Trump's raids doesn't exist. Getting detention facilities, immigration courts and ICE fully staffed for what Trump has proposed would be a logistical nightmare, at prohibitive cost. And then there's the economic impact. There are about 8 million unauthorized immigrants in the US workforce. The removal of millions of agricultural, construction and hospitality workers would reduce the GDP by an estimated $1.7 trillion.
This is just more red-meat bullshit offered up by Trump for his base. The only real thought Trump has given to the idea of mass deportations is how the issue will play on the campaign trail.
I don’t want to be cruel. I’m open to amnesty for those who have been here for several years, have obeyed the law other than entering illegally or overstaying their legal status and/or have children. I’m also open to increasing the number of green cards we issue each year significantly.
Those changes would have to be contingent on Democrats getting serious about asylum abuse and border security. And I’m not talking about the Lankford bill. I’m talking about serious legislation that locks down the border and stymies the flow of asylum applicants who are really just economic migrants.
It will never happen.
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Back in the old days (before you were born) the immigration laws were tailored toward preventing young Mexican males coming over and working in the underground economy, while at the same time offering asylum to political refugees fleeing Central America (the countries we were meddling in at the time). Those conditions have changed drastically. NAFTA impacted part of the problem favorably, by allowing for better jobs becoming available in Mexico. But the rise of narco terrorism and continued political upheaval made things worse in Central America, and instead of it being young male Mexicans crossing the border, we now find whole Central American families coming and claiming asylum -- but not really political asylum, as was intended. The first and simplest thing to address would be to rewrite immigration law to reflect the current conditions by redefining "asylum" and what that entails. It can't just be getting across the border and saying the magic word to the first uniformed person you see.
Our generals are already much the same as the German ones. Much like ours a majority of Hitler's generals thought he was a f**king imbecile. They also tried to kill him at least 4 times.
Not sure how my birthdate is relevant. I largely agree, except that the Central American migrants in the last few years have disproportionately been young, single males.
And that doesn’t even start on the exorbitant increase in the number of people who aren’t even from North or South America.
People crossing oceans to claim “asylum” here, when they have plenty of other options in their own backyard.
