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Petition for permanent IU script football helmets

No, that's your opinion.


Well, duh. But the constant changing is an annoying, marketing driven, diversionary waste of time.

We're obviously not Alabama but how often do they feel the need to change their helmets/uniforms? For that matter, how many times have other schools changed their basketball uniforms while IU has maintained the same, basic style, with only small tweaks here and there?
 
No, but that's better than the crap logo presently the standard and which was developed during the prior AD's reign. The superior logo had the block "I" in front of the "U". And I don't give a FF if it is from an earlier era. IMO, it's a far stronger look. It's like anything else, where there have been numerous uniform/logo changes. Sometimes they are subtle, but different people are going to prefer different, and prior, looks/versions.
As someone who has worked professionally in Marketing, logo design, and graphic design in general, I believe the current interlocking IU logo was a big improvement over the previous 3D looking design for a number of reasons. It's much more adaptable and scalable, it very well bridged the gap with the past while freshening it up. And last but not least, from the perspective of process required to duplicate it, reducing the number of colors required to duplicate it by one over the previous design is a bigger advantage than you might imagine. The logo is used in far more ways than athletic uniforms. It's found on signage, stationary, etc. etc. This single color logo is much better for that. McNeely didn't get much right, but he did definitely make vast improvements in IUs branding. There was no consistency from sport to sport, or university department.
 
As someone who has worked professionally in Marketing, logo design, and graphic design in general, I believe the current interlocking IU logo was a big improvement over the previous 3D looking design for a number of reasons. It's much more adaptable and scalable, it very well bridged the gap with the past while freshening it up. And last but not least, from the perspective of process required to duplicate it, reducing the number of colors required to duplicate it by one over the previous design is a bigger advantage than you might imagine. The logo is used in far more ways than athletic uniforms. It's found on signage, stationary, etc. etc. This single color logo is much better for that. McNeely didn't get much right, but he did definitely make vast improvements in IUs branding. There was no consistency from sport to sport, or university department.


That's fine, I just think it's scaled wrong, in that it's too thin and weak-looking. If I'd had the call, which I obviously didn't, I would have dismissed the current version as juvenile.

It's like the Ford Mustang. They had it grooved for a while, lost it and then got it back with the last two versions.
 
Well, duh. But the constant changing is an annoying, marketing driven, diversionary waste of time.

We're obviously not Alabama but how often do they feel the need to change their helmets/uniforms? For that matter, how many times have other schools changed their basketball uniforms while IU has maintained the same, basic style, with only small tweaks here and there?
Alabama could wear trash bags and sell a million of them. We have to market ourselves differently. The Oregon route is working for us with recruits (just look on Twitter) and many fans like the helmets. If you don't, that's fine, but it's not a waste of time.
 
That's fine, I just think it's scaled wrong, in that it's too thin and weak-looking. If I'd had the call, which I obviously didn't, I would have dismissed the current version as juvenile.

It's like the Ford Mustang. They had it grooved for a while, lost it and then got it back with the last two versions.
Yeah guess we just have to agree to disagree there. I think it's much more interesting and professional looking.
 
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How about that?
YIKES! All that is missing is the clown car.
 
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No, but that's better than the crap logo presently the standard and which was developed during the prior AD's reign. The superior logo had the block "I" in front of the "U". And I don't give a FF if it is from an earlier era. IMO, it's a far stronger look. It's like anything else, where there have been numerous uniform/logo changes. Sometimes they are subtle, but different people are going to prefer different, and prior, looks/versions.

I couldn't figure out which logo you were referring to at first. Did a little googling. Wow, that thing is dated and clunky. No thanks!
 
Went to my first game of season yesterday and I also loved the helmet. Looked very nice. However, I am still a block I guy, above all. I would be happy with these 2 and the state flag. Not a big fan of the white, the numbered or the metallic.
I prefer the block I as well, but that is probably a generational nostalgia thing. I'm not a huge fan of the interlocking IU but I understand the desire to have a consistent symbol for branding/marketing purposes. I just think we look like a copy of Oklahoma in those helmets.

My guess is that the variety of helmets appeals to today's recruits, and the current players. I have no problem with using multiple helmets. I thought Saturday's script "Indiana" was really sharp and fresh. I hated the white when we first started using them, but have to admit they've grown on me a little with the red jersey. I hate the all white road look. I like the state flag look as well.

My personal preference is that we scrap the white with numbers (it's the only one I really dislike), use the chrome sparingly - maybe once a year to keep it from being tired-looking - and always use Block I for the bucket game.

If we make it to a bowl game, I don't care if we wear pink helmets with purple daisies.
 
I prefer the block I as well, but that is probably a generational nostalgia thing. I'm not a huge fan of the interlocking IU but I understand the desire to have a consistent symbol for branding/marketing purposes. I just think we look like a copy of Oklahoma in those helmets.

My guess is that the variety of helmets appeals to today's recruits, and the current players. I have no problem with using multiple helmets. I thought Saturday's script "Indiana" was really sharp and fresh. I hated the white when we first started using them, but have to admit they've grown on me a little with the red jersey. I hate the all white road look. I like the state flag look as well.

My personal preference is that we scrap the white with numbers (it's the only one I really dislike), use the chrome sparingly - maybe once a year to keep it from being tired-looking - and always use Block I for the bucket game.

If we make it to a bowl game, I don't care if we wear pink helmets with purple daisies.

Agree with all you posted, particularly the dislike for the white with numbers helmet and the all white road uniforms.
 
the good thing about the script Indiana helmets, is that they aren't the totally ridiculous chrome or Mohawk helmets, or the state emblem (wtf) helmet which is both non symmetrical, and the emblem has nothing to do with IU any more than ISU, PU, or any other state school...


that said, their is no "script" Indiana tradition what so ever, at least for the last 60 yrs i've been watching.

the red helmet with either the interlock IU logo or the block I were both great., (prefer the double pin stripe like the rose bowl team and other yrs, including only several yrs ago, but the solid is ok too).

i'll presume the script thing is Adidas idea.

other than cancer awareness week with the pink IU logo, IU hasn't worn a traditional IU helmet, (either IU logo or interlock), in 3 yrs.

while the team has struggled over the yrs, till Glass came along, at least most yrs we had great looking unis and helmets.

and when we did deviate, (Wyche and Cam yrs), most fans hated it.

i guess FG wanted to get rid of what we were dong right.

when FG came along, he made a big deal of his love for the Knothole Club and his desire to embrace IU traditions.

he then trashed the football unis and helmets, (at least got the good unis back after everybody hated the ones Glass 1st went with), he's never once implemented a Knothole Club after all the talk, then the parade of ridiculous football helmets, and the bball program has become the national poster child for running kids off to re-coop a scholly.

block I or interlock, we use to have great football unis and helmets.

lets fix what's been wrong and keep whats been right, not the other way around.
 
I just hope for cancer day, we find another way to show awareness without using pink logos on red helmets. So many other ways to express support. You don't see pink and blue Wolverine helmets, pink Hawkeye decals or even pink horseshoes for the Colts. Not disparaging the cause but it's just bad branding.
 
the good thing about the script Indiana helmets, is that they aren't the totally ridiculous chrome or Mohawk helmets, or the state emblem (wtf) helmet which is both non symmetrical, and the emblem has nothing to do with IU any more than ISU, PU, or any other state school...


that said, their is no "script" Indiana tradition what so ever, at least for the last 60 yrs i've been watching.

the red helmet with either the interlock IU logo or the block I were both great., (prefer the double pin stripe like the rose bowl team and other yrs, including only several yrs ago, but the solid is ok too).

i'll presume the script thing is Adidas idea.

other than cancer awareness week with the pink IU logo, IU hasn't worn a traditional IU helmet, (either IU logo or interlock), in 3 yrs.

while the team has struggled over the yrs, till Glass came along, at least most yrs we had great looking unis and helmets.

and when we did deviate, (Wyche and Cam yrs), most fans hated it.

i guess FG wanted to get rid of what we were dong right.

when FG came along, he made a big deal of his love for the Knothole Club and his desire to embrace IU traditions.

he then trashed the football unis and helmets, (at least got the good unis back after everybody hated the ones Glass 1st went with), he's never once implemented a Knothole Club after all the talk, then the parade of ridiculous football helmets, and the bball program has become the national poster child for running kids off to re-coop a scholly.

block I or interlock, we use to have great football unis and helmets.

lets fix what's been wrong and keep whats been right, not the other way around.
You have an amazing ability to turn any topic into a delightfully absurd rant. You also have a bad habit of thinking you speak for all IU fans. For one thing, no uniform will ever have 100% popularity, but a lot of people really like our helmets. And the uniforms look pretty much how they always have. The red may get a little darker after the adidas audit or whatever, and we are required to wear one alternate jersey a year now, though, so look out for that. As for the script Indiana...

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I just hope for cancer day, we find another way to show awareness without using pink logos on red helmets. So many other ways to express support. You don't see pink and blue Wolverine helmets, pink Hawkeye decals or even pink horseshoes for the Colts. Not disparaging the cause but it's just bad branding.
Yes, terrible branding...

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I will preface my following comments by saying that I fully support victims and loved-ones of Breast cancer, and also fully support and contribute to the cause of breast cancer research and treatment. It is one of many terrible diseases and I hope we can find a cure soon.

That said, all this pink Breast Cancer Awareness (BCA) campaign business - and that is what it is: business - is way out of balance and off the rails.

First of all, again not to be insensitive to the millions affected by the disease, but there are other diseases with not nearly as much notoriety because they don't have the marketing machine behind them that breast cancer does, that affect many more people. That said, I don't meant to say breast cancer doesn't need attention. It's just way out of proportion to other very real and deadly diseases affecting many more millions of people.

BCA is not nearly the problem it's made out to be, or that it used to be years ago. Or at least, it's certainly way down on the totem pole of health awareness issues that need attention. I think we've made most folks aware of breast cancer, and the steps needed to help prevent e.g. self-examination, mammograms, etc. Not saying there isn't more work to be done there, but I think any American would admit they've been exposed to the marketing, somewhere. I think the pink campaign has largely achieved it's goals of awareness and de-stigmatization. I think the NFL dedicating an entire MONTH each year to displaying BCA branding all over uniforms, the fields, and broadcasts has probably alone done an awful lot to achieve the goal of awareness. If football can dedicate a whole month to breast cancer, why don't they do a single week for heart disease? Ever compared the death rates of the two diseases? Heart disease alone kills five times - five times! - more women each year than breast cancer does. Not to mention how many men it kills. I'd like to see more balance by the sports leagues on disease awareness, rather than just jumping on a bandwagon.

But the biggest problem I have with it all is addressed in the linked article, and that is that very little of the money raised through all proliferation of pink products sold go toward researching a cure, or treatment.

Again, there is nothing to argue with about the the goal of making sure all at risk people are aware of how they can protect themselves from breast cancer, and any money raised that goes toward research and treatment is a good thing. But all the attention given to the BCA pink campaign by corporations is disproportionate to the number of affected people as compared to other diseases, and it needs to be reigned in because it's jumped the shark in terms of what it's become, which is a brilliant marketing tactic for for-profit companies, not just the American Cancer Society.

Feel free to flame if you need to.
 
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