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Pete Hegseth Secretary of Defense

None of that matters to Aloha. He believes every anonymous source that mentions anything against Republicans.
Liar. First, no one defended Kavanaugh more than me here and I'd defend Hegseth if this was the same and he deserved it. It's not the same. Second, I want the FBI to do their job and find out what's true like they've done forever for Presidential nominees. Third, I would rather they find the truth now than for Hegseth to be confirmed and then the dirt comes out and embarrasses Republicans for confirming him.
 
Being vetted doesn’t matter
COH, I don't have the fear of the media that you seem to have. It's not that difficult to know when to take it seriously and when not to. After Hegseth withdraws, DeSantis won't have too difficult of a time to be confirmed. Neither would Ernst. Hegseth is a bad pick, and it would be best if we just recognize that and move on.
 
This isn't one isolated incident. It's many. From many different sources. Including the guy's freakin' mom. Hell, he's admitted to the drinking and banging the one chick who was at the hotel with her family. He's a wreck.

This is the SecDef. We don't need a guy who can't handle his liquor, has PTSD, and has no relevant experience running a large organization or instituting change in one. It's more than just having an idea "hey, this needs to change"-- it's having the ability, knowledge, and experience to accomplish the change while still running the 3 million + person organization.
You seem prone to propaganda. You a legacy media guy?
 
This isn't one isolated incident. It's many. From many different sources. Including the guy's freakin' mom. Hell, he's admitted to the drinking and banging the one chick who was at the hotel with her family. He's a wreck.

This is the SecDef. We don't need a guy who can't handle his liquor, has PTSD, and has no relevant experience running a large organization or instituting change in one. It's more than just having an idea "hey, this needs to change"-- it's having the ability, knowledge, and experience to accomplish the change while still running the 3 million + person organization.
I don’t know if he had or has PTSD. He claims to have overcome whatever it was. We’ve already elected a president with a severe mental health disability. We had a candidate who had zero smarts and was allegedly a lush. Nobody was bothered by either. Hegesteh is better than both. He doesn’t seem to have a present day disability. While I think DeSantis would be better, so would a lot of people. That’s no reason to DQ Hegseth.
 
That's ridiculous. Desantis has been a VERY public figure for many years now and ran several political campaigns. There isn't any new news there. Most people had no idea who Hegseth even was until his nomination....

Pam Bondi has been up for a couple weeks now... Where are all the smears on her?
You can’t see the forest for the trees. It doesn’t matter if there is any new news there. That’s the point. They make shit up and get it backed by anonymous sources. It’s a hit job, on all of them.
 
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You wanted Harris to win?
That's the result if my hope that Trump would lose had happened. Seriously, why do you ask this question? There should be zero question about what I wanted to happen. It didn't. Trump will be our President in January and now I hope for the best possible outcomes for that.
 
COH, I don't have the fear of the media that you seem to have. It's not that difficult to know when to take it seriously and when not to. After Hegseth withdraws, DeSantis won't have too difficult of a time to be confirmed. Neither would Ernst. Hegseth is a bad pick, and it would be best if we just recognize that and move on.
I don’t fear the media. I just think they are full of shit.

They have a serious purpose in our system. They even got special mention in the BOR’s. They FUBAR’ed the whole thing. I won’t buy any negative news based on anonymous statements about the Trump administration without serious corroborating independently verifiable facts.
 
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Maybe he is just not prone to your propaganda sources. Brad seems to be one of the more level-headed, middle of the road guys on here.
You are not.
Brad works hard to be middle of the road and “level-headed”. I’m sure he has more conviction than he often displays on this board. Correct, I do not care what anyone random stranger thinks of me. I speak truth no matter how much it hurts. And you, my friend, have demonstrated yourself to be a dumbass.
 
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This isn't one isolated incident. It's many. From many different sources. Including the guy's freakin' mom. Hell, he's admitted to the drinking and banging the one chick who was at the hotel with her family. He's a wreck.

This is the SecDef. We don't need a guy who can't handle his liquor, has PTSD, and has no relevant experience running a large organization or instituting change in one. It's more than just having an idea "hey, this needs to change"-- it's having the ability, knowledge, and experience to accomplish the change while still running the 3 million + person organization.
Running the DOD is like being a CEO of a large company. How on Earth we think just anyone can do it is beyond me. But, oh yes, "kill the Deep STate" which actually keeps the lights on and teh guns running.

I’m surprised a conservative hoped a progressive would win.
I'm surprised a conservative would not only vote for Trump, but would put him on a pedastal only slightly below George Washington and Abraham Lincoln*. But here we are.


*not you specfiically of course.
 
Like I said…I’m surprised you wanted progressive policies
Stop with the word play. I don't "want" progressive policies. In fact, I hoped that the Republicans would win the House and Senate to put the brakes on anything like that. I got two thirds of what I wanted to happen in the election. What I really wanted was a mentally unstable and totally unfit man NOT to be President. Simple as that. You don't have to agree that he's unfit, but if you were convinced that he is totally unfit, as I am, you wouldn't vote for him, would you?
 
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Seen it. You actually think that justifies slandering the guy as a pedophile? You have no moral compass at all, do you? Do you consider yourself a Christian? You sure as hell don't act like one.
Do your worst brother. Couldn’t care less what a pseudo conservative that wanted Kamala in office thinks about me. TDS to the nth degree.
 
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Running the DOD is like being a CEO of a large company. How on Earth we think just anyone can do it is beyond me. But, oh yes, "kill the Deep STate" which actually keeps the lights on and teh guns running.


I'm surprised a conservative would not only vote for Trump, but would put him on a pedastal only slightly below George Washington and Abraham Lincoln*. But here we are.


*not you specfiically of course.
Trump could give three shits less about the duties of president. He just wants to say he was elected. Now, let’s hope he plays golf and lets Vance, Rubio, Hawley, Cotton and the rest continue to advocate for policies the middle class coalition that voted for him prefers. They can allow Trump to take the credit he craves and the moderates should be happy.

But Trump….not you, of course
 
Do your worst brother. Couldn’t care less what a pseudo conservative that wanted Kamala in office thinks about me. TDS to the nth degree.
What is it about Trump that turned your head to mush and turned you into a dishonorable POS? That's some real TDS there.

Edit - If your head was mush and you were a dishonorable POS before you gave your life to Trump, I apologize to Trump for your condition.
 
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Trump could give three shits less about the duties of president. He just wants to say he was elected. Now, let’s hope he plays golf and lets Vance, Rubio, Hawley, Cotton and the rest continue to advocate for policies the middle class coalition that voted for him prefers. They can allow Trump to take the credit he craves and the moderates should be happy.

But Trump….not you, of course
You don't know how many times I've heard a Trump voter say they HOPE that those around Trump would keep him from screwing up.
 
You don't know how many times I've heard a Trump voter say they HOPE that those around Trump would keep him from screwing up.
Surely you’ve been around people like Trump. You play the game…you have to word things in such a way as to make them think they are driving the bus.

You use them to accomplish your goal. Some people refer to them as “useful idiots”….as opposed to your preferred idiot who is in no way useful
 
I’m surprised a conservative hoped a progressive would win.
The labels around here are all super confusing. Ty and the guy he supports are calling for radical change to the establishment and you are identifying them as conservatives. How do you describe someone who supports Ron DeSantis and doesn't support Donald Trump? Do you have to support Trump to be a conservative?
 
I agree with standing firm in the face of smear campaigns. You won't find a bigger Kavanaugh defender than myself and I thought Trump sticking by him when a lot of Republican presidents would have folded was one of the best moments of his Presidency.

The rape allegation against Hegseth also seems entirely bogus to me. But even he grants that he was heavily intoxicated at the time, and now more rumors about him being a drunkard have followed on it's heels. We don't need a drunk at DoD. Couple that with he's never had administrative duties anywhere close to this scale while DeSantis has been an excellent administrator of the third largest state in the country. And I don't think DeSantis wants forever wars or a woke military either.

He's a better choice if what you're after is actual DoD reform and not just a flaming middle finger.
You’re getting soft in your old age. Find your balls or delete this handle forever. I’m very disappointed in you.
 
You ignored me because I kept proving you wrong on issue after issue. I thought you were just a serial liar, but other posters pointed out that you're probably stupid too.
No, I got tired of your single-minded obsession with all things Trump.

You have a real mental problem - and I'm not joking about that. You have serious mental issues - you can't let anything go. You bought the Russian Collusion hoax hook, line, and sinker. Others were smart enough to let it go when it was proved it was a hoax. Not you. Facts mean nothing to you. Admitting you were wrong would destroy your fragile ego.

You really should have a mental health examination. I'm sure the VA could hook you up with a good mental health professional. They're used to dealing with mental health obsessions.
 
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The labels around here are all super confusing. Ty and the guy he supports are calling for radical change to the establishment and you are identifying them as conservatives. How do you describe someone who supports Ron DeSantis and doesn't support Donald Trump? Do you have to support Trump to be a conservative?
That’s only if you take the strictest definition of Conservatism. If you take the American political definition, 9/10 self-proclaimed Conservatives would tell you that radical change is warranted in many/ most departments of the executive branch.
 
Surely you’ve been around people like Trump. You play the game…you have to word things in such a way as to make them think they are driving the bus.

You use them to accomplish your goal. Some people refer to them as “useful idiots”….as opposed to your preferred idiot who is in no way useful
I think it's very dangerous to have a mentally unstable person as Commander in Chief. I'd prefer to avoid that situation. Now I'm with those of you that HOPE that those around Trump save him from his worst instincts and prevent him from making crazy emotional decisions.
 
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I don’t know if he had or has PTSD. He claims to have overcome whatever it was. We’ve already elected a president with a severe mental health disability. We had a candidate who had zero smarts and was allegedly a lush. Nobody was bothered by either. Hegesteh is better than both. He doesn’t seem to have a present day disability. While I think DeSantis would be better, so would a lot of people. That’s no reason to DQ Hegseth.
DANC said he did. He was right:

 
I think it's very dangerous to have a mentally unstable person as Commander in Chief. I'd prefer to avoid that situation. Now I'm with those of you that HOPE that those around Trump save him from his worst instincts and prevent him from making crazy emotional decisions.
Surrounding him with super stable people like Matt Gaetz, Pete Hegseth, RFK Jr., and Sebastian Gorka is a great start!
 
Liar. First, no one defended Kavanaugh more than me here and I'd defend Hegseth if this was the same and he deserved it. It's not the same. Second, I want the FBI to do their job and find out what's true like they've done forever for Presidential nominees. Third, I would rather they find the truth now than for Hegseth to be confirmed and then the dirt comes out and embarrasses Republicans for confirming him.
It's exactly the same. You believe anonymous sources, while named sources swear the charges aren't true.

You can't stand Hegseth because he'd shit-can some of your good buddies in the Pentagon who have gotten fat on their work policies.

You've put your career and ego ahead of the country time and again. You have lived off the teat of the government your whole life and you can't stand an outsider coming in and cleaning hours.

You stayed in the military because you couldn't do anything else and you loved having the power over the enlisted. I've known many of your type.
 
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