No shit. Wow, what a rebuttal! But you voted for him in 2000. Are you going to deny that, fvckstick?
Pete Hegseth Secretary of Defense
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No it wasn’t all about collusion. Read the report or STFU, I’m seriously tired of your ignorance about it.
2000 Mules was thoroughly debunked. I tried to explain some of it to you, but it was beyond your comprehension. D'Souza is basically disowning it yet you remain a true believer. That’s world class stubborn stupidity.
Only morons think the 2020 election was stolen. You prove you’re a moron yet again. Believe me, there were already few doubters on that.
Are you proud to be a serial liar or are you just stupid?
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It absolutely was and you're a liar if you claim otherwise, now that no Collusion was found.
OK, genius, if it wasn't all about Collusion, what else was it about, and why wasn't he found 'guilty' of any of it?
2000 Mules hasn't been 'debunked'. First you claimed geotrackin wasn't accurate. Then, when they started using it to find J6 protesters, we didn't hear shit from you about it not being accurate. You are a total product of the media.
You think Biden got 84 millions votes! lmao
OK, you voted for him in 2020. I guess you're proud of that.
Clinton stuck cigars up pussies in the Oval Office and hung out on Epstein’s island. He was a good President. Obama was a community organizer who spoke nicely and he was an ok President. I don’t give a shit if someone drinks and bangs chicks. Hegseth is fine. He’s been working for Fox, in the limelight the last 7 years. It’s not like he’s been in rehab or doing crack with Hunter Biden.
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I’ve linked them before. You don’t care about actual facts so you didn’t bother to look - or it was when you had me in ignore because I humiliated you so often. Either way, look it up yourself.
You didn't link shit, liar. You were just running your mouth, as you always do.
That doesn’t stop obscure alleged victims from crawling out from under a rock when the stakes are higher.
This isn’t about the administrations. It’s about us. Most of Hegseth problems result because he is a conspicuous and unashamed MAGA. His PTSD history is simply a hook upon which to hang an opposition hat.
You think Aloha is socially liberal? Can someone not be a Trump supporter and still be a conservative?
It's really interesting to me because I don't find Trump to be a conservative in most any way.
That’s like saying you’d rather bang a dude than the ugliest chick at the party, nttawwtoc…
Party divided. Always some overlap but trump is largely an old Dem. Not unlike how the Dem party has changed with a schism. Im happy in the trump camp. Hated McCain bush etc. trump is closer to Clinton l, where I was also happy once he pivoted, which he most certainly did
So, the people who were more conservative than Clinton were not actually conservatives, but the people who are like the people who were more liberal than those conservatives are now conservative?
I have no doubt you are happy in the Trump camp. And I can see why DANC is so perpetually confused.
Kind of too hard to answer, particularly for a fly by multitasking drinking poster like me. Today. Ten years ago. 50 years ago? The Greeks? Both parties are liberal. Pubs Locke. Dems Hobbesian. All agree we need protection. So that requires taxes. Hobbes we ctrl your money but not your body. Locke the opposite. What’s the marker? Who is the marker?
In simple present terms aloha and I are both conservatives. As are cosmic and booger libs. Same but not the same
He’s for abortions at 16ish week if I remember correctly. That’s a socially liberal position.
Of course. You just have to take conservative positions and actions. For example, don’t vote for Biden or Harris is a great start.
You’re not looking real hard then. He’s Pro-Business, pro growth, cutting regulations, cutting taxes, and stronger borders. He’s just not conservative when comes to deficits, which unfortunately similar to 90% of Republicans today. He’s also pro Bitcoin, which is a conservative position.
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Pete Hegseth is a classic "problem drinker" who has been able to avoid consequences and gotten away with it -- so far. His responses on the MK show were textbook denial, fingerpointing, rationalization, and bargaining. I know enough and have seen enough to believe he is going to have more and more problems with alcohol in the future.
I'm not familiar enough with PTSD to know re how prevalent it is with combat veterans. What you say makes sense though.
I'm not judging Hegseth as a person by pointing to his PTSD. I don't think he's any weaker (or stronger for that matter) because he suffers (ed) from it. I don't think he's "crazy"--but it is a mental illness, and it's important to think about for this role he's seeking. I don't think it is disqualifying on its own (but combined with the drinking issues, it makes it more serious).
I recognize mental illness has a stigma (I've mentioned it here before, but I do a lot of volunteer work for a men's organization that works with men suffering through mental illness--some with PTSD-- or are dealing with tough life circumstances) . And it could disqualify someone who would be excellent in the role . A great example: Lincoln. He suffered from debilitating, sometimes suicidal, depression for nearly his entire adult life. Yet look at what he achieved as President. I doubt if that were known today, someone like that could get elected for appointed to a cabinet position.
But with all that said, given the importance of the position, these things are troublesome. For me, though, I'll say I just don't find Hegseth's experience or qualifications worthy of the SecDef.
Why do you believe Hegseth has the ability to "bring about needed change?"
I used to play basketball a little. I can spot problems with, and want to change, IU's offensive and defensive schemes. Does that mean I should be the next IU basketball coach?
Here my problem.
The accusations against Hegseth are anonymous and reported by outlets who have a record of deception to favor Trump opposition. That isn’t nearly enough to demand that he should withdraw. If there is substance to these allegations, then I expect real people to give real testimony, under oath about that. Then we will know more and the senate can decide. If Hegseth withdraws now, many future appointees will be Hegsethed. Leave the innuendo, suspicion, and anonymity for the senate hearings, not for the media, social media and internet boards.
I fully agree that there are many who I would prefer as SecDef, over Hegseth. But I also believe he can improve some things that I see as significant issues such as recruiting shortfalls and the Afghanistan chaos which I think is largely a result of failure to plan an orderly exit.
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Yes
It's a miracle that we've found you when we did...
There's still an outside chance the season might be salvaged... 🏀
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Hegseth's rebuttals; plus..., his supporters weigh in:
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Pete Hegseth hits back at accusations his tattoos are white supremacist symbols: ‘Anti-Christian bigotry’
Hegseth also posted messages he said he received from people who had been encouraged by his appointment to lead the sprawling government agency.
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Pete Hegseth compares vicious treatment by the media in confirmation hearings to Kavanaugh saga
“Kavanaugh stood up and he won,” Defense Secretary-designate Pete Hegseth said of the now-Supreme Court justice. “And hopefully Republicans have learned that lesson. And Trump sto…
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Trump defense secretary pick Pete Hegseth breaks silence on alleged sex assault
Secretary of Defense-designate Pete Hegseth spoke publicly the first time Thursday on allegations that he sexually assaulted a woman in 2017.
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Exclusive | Pete Hegseth lawyer demands release of file on sex assault claim that may indicate accuser made ‘similar false allegation’ against another man
A prosecution memorandum underpinning the decision not to prosecute Hegseth is believed to describe an earlier allegation of sexual misconduct made by the same woman in a different jurisdiction, hi…
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Former Pete Hegseth colleagues address ‘insane’ allegations surrounding Trump’s Secretary of Defense pick: ‘No strip clubs involved’
Former colleagues of Pete Hegseth are denying sweeping allegations of financial mismanagement and sexual impropriety against the current defense secretary-designee during his time leading a veteran…
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Don’t let the left do to Pete Hegseth what it did to Brett Kavanaugh
The left-leaning media has gone into smear-fest mode, accusing Pete Hegseth of sexual assault without hard evidence, just as it did with Brett Kavanaugh.
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Yes. He said he’s socially conservative. The point was that I didn’t label him. He did.
When Pete gets confirmed, you guys can shove it straight up your🫏.
I trust Trump and his team to make the decisions way more than I trust you and your thoughts on the matter. Especially with how you have seemingly eaten up every smear story they’ve thrown at him. Have you met Hegseth? Spoken with him? Or do you know only what you read? Do you think Trump has a better understanding of the man than you?
We elected Trump for a reason. We should let him execute his plan. Nothing is going to fall apart any worse than it already is.
No, is my answer on the IU basketball coach question. Though if it was an either or between you and Woody…I’d probably give you a shot on a prove yourself deal with incentives.
And I hope you bought another Bitcoin the other day. It’s close to 103k!
Revolutionizing our monetary system is conservative?
We're coming for your dirty fiat cash, Brad. The Redcoats and Loyalist are going down again.
Always good to get the input from the single wide crowd.
How is the park down in Punta doing?
For those interested in Hegseth's side of the story. They go through all the allegations.
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