I don’t think he’s ready, either, but in this day and age of greed, it doesn’t matter. He can work on his outside shot while getting paid to do so. He has been blessed with too much hype to do otherwise. I’m old enough to remember when a college player wishing to enter the draft early had to prove hardship on the home front in order to be accepted. Some tried it, were accepted and then didn’t get drafted. It was S-Outta-Luck time for them- they couldn’t go back to college ball even if they wanted to.
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Archie has made it past the first weekend of the tournament one time and he’s now in his 8th year. That was the Elite 8 run where they got a good matchup with Stanford the 10 seed in the sweet 16. Let’s not forget Tom Crean made a Final Four run.
I believe in Archie but only if he can stack teams like his brother does. That’s the key.
I’m not saying I know more or am better, just that his fellow coaches seem to be better. At least at the in game moves and prep work.
My skills have nothing to do with it as I don’t coach against him.
ya, it was better when these young adults had no say in their career choices at all. let's scrap NBA free agency while you are at it.
age of greed? ya, it was all milk and honey 50 years ago. only difference was the NBA hadn't gotten huge yet. lol. you kill me, Abraxis!
Well being at Dayton for most of those years you shouldn't expect to get past the first weekend that many times.
i agree with your assessment of smith, green and durham. the big ten is full of players with similar ability. they will not set us apart but hopefully as seniors will give us some advantage. except maybe green who may be beyond hope
Hot Take special: He's the bizarro college version of Mike D'antoni. Always has great talent, but whereas D'Antoni always leans solely on Great O, Miller tries to solely lean on great D, but is single-focused and can't adjust to ever break-through to a championship level.
So choosing the option to make millions of dollars to play a game rather than stay in college to play that same game is greedy? I call it a wise decision, one you obviously never had to make. Even if the player washes out of the NBA after 1 season (which a lottery draft pick wouldn't) the money he makes in that one season would be enough to pay for his college degree with some left over.
"Too much hype to do otherwise"? So he's being forced to leave for the NBA? So which is it, is he greedy or a pawn with no control over his life and life decisions?
Then you seem to long for the "good ole days" when players couldn't leave early even if they wanted to. You're all over the place in this post and none of it is good.
Hmm. "None of it is good" probably is accurate from the standpoint of fairness, etc. However, as a college basketball fan, I hate today. The joy of college bball was to see teams and players progress through the years. That is gone. You cannot have your best players progress or you will not be competitive because the best go pro early. Thus, I really no longer like men's college basketball. I watch and root for the Hoosiers as I always have, but my passion is long gone. I have turned to the women's team as they will be here a while, and their brand of basketball is good - if below the rim. Maybe there will be a time when you also like the "good ole days?"
That was brutal and wrong to young men, the colleges loved it because it kept them in college longer.
I like to watch High School and NBA because that is where you can watch the top talent play for more than 1 season.
LOL! posters like you were the reason I took a vacation from the basketball board, He has been here for a year and a half and coached around 60 games but you already know he can't win at a championship level. Go look at Belein's first few years at UM and see it took him a few years before he started winning consistently.
Oh my god! I feel you. It’s as bad over at the U.K. board. Meltdown city. Do people not understand that we have played zero games at full strength. Yet here we are in the top 25 with 1 loss in the B1G. Give this team a chance people! Give our young coach a chance.
It's like that with some people man, everyone is just tired of underachieving as a program.
I think Archie is doing a fine job with this team, there were just a lot of ridiculous expectations coming into the season by a lot of people and the injuries have killed this team's depth.
Yes, it seems that way now, but back then it was the societal norm and a college education was more valued than it is today. You have a different view of reality now than what I had when your age. People then were just glad that those in financial need had a quick way out. George McGinnis was one who benefitted. His dad was tragically killed in a construction accident after George graduated from high school. Anyway, yeah, it may seem brutal now.
We went up 14 spots in offensive efficiency yesterday. From 47th to 33rd nationally. Now at 37th after early games today...
How is that possible?
Because some of you are idiots who don't understand we played against a top 4 defense in their house, and that defense is allowed to actually move. Dumb fans always act like the other team is made of cardboard cut outs with no will of their own.
This whole thread sucks balls and is filled with the idiot ramblings of the perpetually stupid..
Intelligent fanbase my ass..
How is that possible?
Because some of you are idiots who don't understand we played against a top 4 defense in their house, and that defense is allowed to actually move. Dumb fans always act like the other team is made of cardboard cut outs with no will of their own.
This whole thread sucks balls and is filled with the idiot ramblings of the perpetually stupid..
Intelligent fanbase my ass..
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Beilein took 13 years to take a D1 team past the round of 32. And by his 4th year at Michigan, it looked like he was never going to amount to much there.
IU needs to play tougher but I am not writing Archie off for losing to #1, #2,(both on the road), and a 3rd road game on a last second miss.
You are so over the top and full of it. You had to have been a looper back in the day. At the very least, Archie is better than the slop Knight was slinging from '94 on.
You were too young to remember those days.
I remember the embarrassing first round exits, the 19-12 years, and watching the game pass Knight by while Knight became more and more erratic and angry. Those were the days, right?
Do you remember Knight’s team that went to the title game in 2002?
I remember Knight not making it past the Sweet 16 from 1994 onwards. I remember Knight losing to Pepperdine in the First Round in 2000, assaulting a random freshman, and getting fired.
Knight was done in the last 8 years of his career, he was too busy hunting. Terrific coach, but he was far past his prime to coach a basketball team.
Fishing too. Most of those recruits where scouted and brought in by his assistants. Knight got lazy.
I also think Knight's ego got so big that he thought he could just throw anybody out there and win big.
What does being ready for the NBA mean? Ready to play 10 minuites per night, 30 minutes a night, to be an all star?
Dejounte Murray wasn't ready but played in 38 NBA games going back and forth between the Spurs and their G-League team. He played around 1000 minutes as a pro in his 1st year out of college. He played meaningful minutes in the playoffs as a rookie. He played 81 games and 21 mpg as a 2nd year player and made all NBA 2nd team defense.
Romeo is strong, has great body control, defends. If Trae Young, Lonzo or Fox can handle it, I think Romeo will be fine.
I'm trying to remember the "TON" of talent he had at Dayton during his E8 run... or the next three years where he went 76-25.
There was an entire season of basketball coached by Davis after Knight left before the title game run.
So, with that thinking, I guess this season is still Creans fault?
36th currently. Team Rankings and Sports Reference don't take schedule strength into account. Which is fine for NBA teams as there's only 30 and they play a balanced schedule. When you have 354 teams with unbalanced schedules an SOS weight in some form has to be applied to mean anything.
Plus anytime a coach, announcer, analyst (or I) quote efficiency stats - it's kenpom.
Sports Reference, Team Rankings and Hoops Math all have their uses, but team efficiency stats are not one of them. Kenpom is viewed by everyone as the gold standard.
Well, unless you can afford the $8500 yearly subscription price for Synergy. then you have what our (and everyone else's) coaching staff has.
Link Kenpom
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LOL! RMK had nothing to do with that team going to the championship game. Half of those players never played an minute for him and he never let Coverdale off the bench.
You don’t watch enough basketball to say that. “Game moves and prep work” is all you need to say to prove my point. You don’t even know how idiotic that sounds.
Not to mention they ran an NBA style offense. Shot more threes than RMK would’ve ever allowed. I remember how bad of a player odle was. He became a solid player under Davis. Knight had him so tight he was terrible.
