Our good friend & Boiler Jerry Palm at it again
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He's predictable...if I were his bosses, I'd tell him to cut it out, or he'd be at risk of losing his job.
Pretty simple remedy. Even though with an average record beating Meatchicken by 6 TD's, hold Buckeyes under 17, win out big and they'll come begging for the HOOSIERS. Ace in the hole is Indiana fans travel very well and spend $ even better, they need that, always.
If IU were squeaking by these lesser opponents, it would be one thing. But they're not, they annihilating them, all of them.
A great point was made, I think in the Nebraska game. If a team like OSU, or Michigan, or Penn State, were doing what IU is doing, they'd be ranked number 1 in the country, and people would be talking about them as historically one of the best teams in the B10.
IU has earned the added layer of scrutiny from their decades long levels of incompetence. I'm sure its frustrating for Cignetti, who has earned the exact opposite of that. I hope it continues to drive him, and the IU program in positive ways. The first stumble, or misstep with a loss or two, and IU will fall out of focus dramatically. Its a tenuous place they're in. Which is strange, because I don't think there's anything tenuous about how good a program Cignetti/IU have going.
IU's record in the past SHOULD have nothing to do with the present and what this team is doing.
But we all know it does!
It’s funny people continually talk about Indiana’s strength of schedule, but few anre talking about Penn States. PSU’s best win was against an overrated Illinois team that was getting praise for beating Nebraska and UM at the beginning of the season which both turned out to be not so great teams. They needed OT to beat a USC program that is worse than UM. If we are going to compare schedules and results IU is far superior to PSU right now. If PSU had played our schedule and us theirs they would still be ranked ahead of IU and imo would have a better case with our schedule and results.
Some of these "experts" need throat punched. Total horse crap take that IU misses out because of their schedule. Best I can figure, they only got to select 3 of those opponents.
For sure.
I have to admit, I'm guilty of it as well. There's really nothing anyone could point to, just from watching this team play and watching Michigan play, as an example, that should point to the game being competitive. But even in my brain, they're Michigan, and we're IU. Not sure tangibly what that even means other than Michigan has a much longer leash, and it wouldn't "surprise" me if they played IU tough, or even beat IU on Saturday...when that should actually be literally shocking...based off what both teams have shown on the fields through 9 games.
Further, when IU went down 10-0 against MSU...I wasn't shocked, or pissed, or anything. It was almost a "this feels more normal" type feeling. When, again, that start should have been infuriating.
The only thing that surprises me is that the MSU start has only happened once this year. The only reason that happened is due to two amazing catches by their wideouts on the sidelines. Those catches were likely a one in ten chance of success.
Those two catches certainly contributed to it. But we also started flat. A couple drops, some errant throws by Rourke, very soft coverage, not nearly as much pressure on Chiles. MSU made some incredible plays, but everyone knew their hot shot freshman receiver was capable of that.
2nd quarter on...we didn't allow them any opportunities to make plays like that.
Couldn't agree more. Those catches were incredible. Did you happen to notice Cig taking copious notes during that start? At one point, I told my GF he must be writing a novel. Whatever it was, they found a way to stop that guy the rest of the game. And knocked their QB out of the game. I actually felt a little sorry for their backup. He looked less than enthusiastic about going against IU's fired up D.
Gotta figure Marsh will be suiting up for an SEC school next year. No way he stays at MSU.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... The only way to ensure those jokers don't screw us in favor of a "name" school is to win out convincingly...
Start this Saturday and work out from there...
I'm now certain we can do it because we have special teams, a run game, and a defense to help us win when the passing game may be hitting a dry spell and we know that won't last an entire game... This TEAM is the real deal...
Start this Saturday and work out from there...
I'm now certain we can do it because we have special teams, a run game, and a defense to help us win when the passing game may be hitting a dry spell and we know that won't last an entire game... This TEAM is the real deal...
Palm is the type to put an 11 loss Purdue team into the CFP consideration because he’s the biggest homer there is out there.
Remember, this guy doesn’t have a background in journalism. He’s a math nerd. So, putting aside biases for journalistic integrity is not in his plan.
Our players are going into games this year thinking they are going to win . Our fans are thinking the same thing . In the past we just hoped we played well , and didn’t get embarrassed. Now there is a new sheriff in town , and it’s time for the Big 10 realized this team is for real .
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Even our linebackers? 😉
You can bet your … that wifey and I are going where ever the Hoosiers go. I can not miss it!
He must be mad Walters is coming back next year lol
I was thinking last weekend that the losingest program in NCAA history and the winningest program in NCAA history meet this weekend. It’s a great feeling to be sitting back and licking our chops.
It looked like men vs. boys in the second half. We hurt a lot of players during the game.Couldn't agree more. Those catches were incredible. Did you happen to notice Cig taking copious notes during that start? At one point, I told my GF he must be writing a novel. Whatever it was, they found a way to stop that guy the rest of the game. And knocked their QB out of the game. I actually felt a little sorry for their backup. He looked less than enthusiastic about going against IU's fired up D.
This. IU controls its own destiny. Cig gets questioned about whether he will pay attention to the CFP rankings but there is no need. If we win out, we already know where we will be seeded. That is all that matters. Win out, get the 1 seed and leave the in-season debates to the pundits and cfball fans.
Not for too much longer. I believe IU has a 7-loss lead over NW, right?
NW will not be favored in their last 3 games as UM is their "easiest" of the 3. That means we are all but certain to finish between 4-6 loss gap going into next season. If they have another down year, we could proudly hand NW their crown back.
I can't help but think that the teams that get into the Big Ten/SEC championships are going to potentially want to lose those games to get the 5 seed.
The 5 seed gets to face a Group of 5 champ (likely Boise, possibly Tulane), then the Big 12 champ (not a top 15 team) in their quarterfinal. That's the easiest path to the semis out there. And if you potentially re-match the 1 seed in the semis, you haven't given up your playbook.
Meanwhile the 1 seed faces a Notre Dame or Alabama type of team in their quarterfinal, while the 2 seed will get a Tennessee or Penn State type of team.
The 5 seed gets to face a Group of 5 champ (likely Boise, possibly Tulane), then the Big 12 champ (not a top 15 team) in their quarterfinal. That's the easiest path to the semis out there. And if you potentially re-match the 1 seed in the semis, you haven't given up your playbook.
Meanwhile the 1 seed faces a Notre Dame or Alabama type of team in their quarterfinal, while the 2 seed will get a Tennessee or Penn State type of team.
He is part of the clowns that predicted 5 wins and a 17th place finish in the conference.
They knew what the schedule was when they made those predictions.
At least they should have known,they probably didn’t even look at the schedule.
Typical,lazy journalists who don’t do their homework and base their opinion off of pervious years.
They knew what the schedule was when they made those predictions.
At least they should have known,they probably didn’t even look at the schedule.
Typical,lazy journalists who don’t do their homework and base their opinion off of pervious years.
I don’t. The first 4 get an extra week of rest.
Indiana did hurt several of their players with clean, hard play on both sides of the ball. Our line on offense & defense is very under-rated. These guys are the real deal!
I'm traveling too. Was at Gator. Hoping for an east coast option. Really don't care. Go Hoosiers!
If PSU and IU both finish 1 1-1, and we lose by 7 or less @ O$U, we should 100% be ranked ahead of them in the polls and seeding. I have a hard time believing that happens though. We should be ranked ahead of them now and we aren't...
I'm not sure the point spread should matter. As long as we look competitive with them in the shoe, and we thump Michigan and Purdue, there isn't a rational case that could possibly be made for PSU to be ranked higher than IU.
This thread seems like the best place to drop this. A tweet from Tony Adragna, normally a hoops focused guy, but this is too good not to share regarding bias by dopes like Palm.
Just so we're clear here. After 9 games:
Michigan '23 PPG: 41.9
Indiana '24 PPG: 46.6
Michigan '23 Avg. Margin of Victory: 35.2
Indiana '24 Avg. Margin of Victory: 32.9
Michigan '23 Opponent Record: 36-44
Indiana '24 Opponent Record: 34-45
Michigan '23 RZ Efficiency: 88.2%
Indiana '24 RZ Efficiency: 94.4%
Michigan '23 Turnover Margin: +11
Indiana '24 Turnover Margin: +11
Michigan '23 3rd Down Conversion%: 60%
Indiana '24 3rd Down Conversion%: 60%
Michigan '23 Plays of 20+ Yards: 45
Indiana '24 Plays of 20+ Yards: 50
Michigan '23 Time of Possession: 33:15
Indiana '24 Time of Possession: 32:45
Michigan '23 Penalties: 4.4/38.9 YPG
Indiana' 24 Penalties: 3.9/35.6 YPG
Through 9 games, Michigan was AP #2 and #3 in CFP playoff.
Don't let anybody try to talk you out of how good this #iufb team is.
Just so we're clear here. After 9 games:
Michigan '23 PPG: 41.9
Indiana '24 PPG: 46.6
Michigan '23 Avg. Margin of Victory: 35.2
Indiana '24 Avg. Margin of Victory: 32.9
Michigan '23 Opponent Record: 36-44
Indiana '24 Opponent Record: 34-45
Michigan '23 RZ Efficiency: 88.2%
Indiana '24 RZ Efficiency: 94.4%
Michigan '23 Turnover Margin: +11
Indiana '24 Turnover Margin: +11
Michigan '23 3rd Down Conversion%: 60%
Indiana '24 3rd Down Conversion%: 60%
Michigan '23 Plays of 20+ Yards: 45
Indiana '24 Plays of 20+ Yards: 50
Michigan '23 Time of Possession: 33:15
Indiana '24 Time of Possession: 32:45
Michigan '23 Penalties: 4.4/38.9 YPG
Indiana' 24 Penalties: 3.9/35.6 YPG
Through 9 games, Michigan was AP #2 and #3 in CFP playoff.
Don't let anybody try to talk you out of how good this #iufb team is.
When I look at PSU’s schedule I think they have a chance to get upset by Minnesota and I think IU has a better chance against OSU than people are giving us credit. There is no debate that OSU has a more talented roster, but I think IU is simply playing team ball better. I wouldn’t be shocked if Indiana wins that game by an unexpected margin.
I realize we still have to get by UM. Based off what I have seen the past 3 games it should be a comfortable win assuming Rourke remains healthy. My view of the OSU game will change if we don’t show up this weekend.
Based on PSUs schedule I am not sure how good they are. They only beat 4-5 USC by 3 points and needed OT to do that. If they lost that game they would like be ranked outside the top 15. PSU could be anywhere from a top 25 team to being right there with Iowa and MN as teams that are just a tier below the top of the B1G. Iowa is also much improved based on their Wisconsin performance and imo may be better than PSU right now. So, I can see IU winning out and both OSU and PSU having two losses. I could be dead wrong and wouldn’t have made this prediction 3 weeks ago, but from what I am seeing and doing my best to remain subjective IU based on game results just looks to be performing better to me than those teams.
I realize we still have to get by UM. Based off what I have seen the past 3 games it should be a comfortable win assuming Rourke remains healthy. My view of the OSU game will change if we don’t show up this weekend.
Based on PSUs schedule I am not sure how good they are. They only beat 4-5 USC by 3 points and needed OT to do that. If they lost that game they would like be ranked outside the top 15. PSU could be anywhere from a top 25 team to being right there with Iowa and MN as teams that are just a tier below the top of the B1G. Iowa is also much improved based on their Wisconsin performance and imo may be better than PSU right now. So, I can see IU winning out and both OSU and PSU having two losses. I could be dead wrong and wouldn’t have made this prediction 3 weeks ago, but from what I am seeing and doing my best to remain subjective IU based on game results just looks to be performing better to me than those teams.
Fisher is a Butkus semifinalist … he’s been noticed.
OSU knocked the PSU line backwards on that last goal line stand. Look for the IU OL to to win the LOS v. UM and OSU. That should say IU > PSU.
UW showed IU’s OL what was needed … which the OL learned and executed … I think Bostad get’s his unit to play better every week.
Don't shoot the messenger here, but Sagarin isn't a homer and he has us ranked 12th:
We have the weakest schedule of any team in his Top 40.
Dang, I started a new thread on this - you beat me to it!
Yeah, but it’s not about who we have played. It’s about how we have played. If we needed OT for a few wins and had several close games against this schedule I would be more worried about how we matchup to opponents perceived as stronger, but we are destroying common opponents as least as well if not better than those ranked above us. Nebraska gets crushed by us and then nearly upsets OSU a week later. Then loses to UCLA. So, going by that alone you have to assume IU is at least capable of beating OSU. I get it though. We don’t have a gauntlet of a schedule, but we are going through it as well as you could expect any top team.
Thought I covered that already...
They're looking good. Would still like to see them wrap up and just drop a guy on a regular basis though...
I'm still seeing a little too much of going for the big hit and bouncing off the ball carrier...
Fortunately they're slowing the guy down enough for the next guy to get him down... I'd prefer to see them to simply drop the guy in his tracks... (which I know they can do because I've seen them do it)...
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