Ohio State Decision To Kick Final Field Goal

[Crossblock]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

 

[76-1]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

I'd kick the FG and End it there... It's for the NC.

Hate to say it but Day made a good decision there.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

Kick it. Glorified extra point in terms of distance. Almost no chance to block it. You don’t overthink it.

 

[Al Bino]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

Kick it EVERY SINGLE TIME.

IMO, the chances are small that they would score and get a two conversion in your scenario but the chances of them blocking the FG are even less.

What game was it - OSU's last one? - when the commentator was going on about how the running back on his way to a TD, should have went down at like the one to take more time off the clock. Same response from me - Take the points. The cases where you don't take the points are few and far between.

 

[abraxis]

The final FG gave OSU fans something to cheer about after a relative unproductive majority of the second half compared to ND. No one wants to end a game watching a team run out the clock with no attempt to score…boring. Finish the game on a high note, not a low one.

I feel sorry for the ND field goal kicker, Jeter. He had a tough year before redeeming himself in the playoffs against Penn State with a go-ahead 41 yd FG. Remember his proud dad videoing his kicks? Then he ends his college career missing a 27 yd chip shot, hitting the left crossbar.

 

[midwolfe]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

I was surprised that the domers didn’t let Ohio State get a score there with 2 minutes remaining on the clock. By trying to get the stop without any timeouts they virtually took any chance at a comeback out of contention.

 

[IUfan1957]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

Take the three and stop them from trying some crazy trick plays. No one needs to get hurt on the last few plays. Hell, they were down 8, stranger things have happened.

 

[George.Smalley]

What was the betting line? End of story.

 

[13thman]

Surprised they kicked it. I thought Day's arrogance would get the best of him.

 

[IUfan1957]

Not to change the subject but I will. Finebaum still talking SEC crap. Smart is a better coach even though he lost and OSU's bad lose to UM. He didn't mention Day has a higher winning %, that the B1G has won the championship two seasons in a row, or Day's boys beat a first year Texas team that ran over the SEC. Got to give him his due, he's consistent.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

Not to change the subject but I will. Finebaum still talking SEC crap. Smart is a better coach even though he lost and OSU's bad lose to UM. He didn't mention Day has a higher winning %, that the B1G has won the championship two seasons in a row, or Day's boys beat a first year Texas team that ran over the SEC. Got to give him his due, he's consistent.

So you'd take Ryan Day over Kirby Smart?

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

Kick it EVERY SINGLE TIME.

IMO, the chances are small that they would score and get a two conversion in your scenario but the chances of them blocking the FG are even less.

What game was it - OSU's last one? - when the commentator was going on about how the running back on his way to a TD, should have went down at like the one to take more time off the clock. Same response from me - Take the points. The cases where you don't take the points are few and far between.

Totally different situation. 2 scores vs one score.

 

[IUfan1957]

So you'd take Ryan Day over Kirby Smart?

With NIL and the transfer portal in today's game. Yes, the talent and style of play in the B1G has leveled the playing field. Smart is a very good coach has been in I believe 4 championship games won 2. Going forward I'll take Day.

 

[vesuvius13]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

Crossblock, like you I would run the ball looking to score a TD but knowing ND had to go over 95 yards to score and then need a two point play to tie the game. Too many crazy things happen at the end of the game with kicks.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

With NIL and the transfer portal in today's game. Yes, the talent and style of play in the B1G has leveled the playing field. Smart is a very good coach has been in I believe 4 championship games won 2. Going forward I'll take Day.

You'd be one of the few

 

[Bowlmania]

Not to change the subject but I will. Finebaum still talking SEC crap. Smart is a better coach even though he lost and OSU's bad lose to UM. He didn't mention Day has a higher winning %, that the B1G has won the championship two seasons in a row, or Day's boys beat a first year Texas team that ran over the SEC. Got to give him his due, he's consistent.

Finebaum’s just an SEC shill. Zero credibility.

OSU’s loss to UM was a surprising loss but it wasn’t a bad loss. Michigan had a very good team this season and was a QB away from being a national contender.

What about Alabama’s loss to Michigan in the bowl game? Why hasn’t Finebaum referred to that as a bad Alabama loss? Oh wait. SEC apologists insist Alabama didn’t care about that game. Lol.

Finally, here’s the scorecard for the Big Ten v. the SEC in postseason play this season:

Big Ten 5
SEC 1

Enough said.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Finebaum’s just an SEC shill. Zero credibility.

OSU’s loss to UM was a surprising loss but it wasn’t a bad loss. Michigan had a very good team this season and was a QB away from being a national contender.

What about Alabama’s loss to Michigan in the bowl game? Why hasn’t Finebaum referred to that as a bad Alabama loss? Oh wait. SEC apologists insist Alabama didn’t care about that game. Lol.

Finally, here’s the scorecard for the Big Ten v. the SEC in postseason play this season:

Big Ten 5
SEC 1

Enough said.

The BT certainly kicked the SEC's ass this year.....but I think all "the king is dead, long live the king" talk is a bit premature.

SEC teams still dominated the HS recruit ratings this year, and the SEC is doing the best overall in the transfer portal by far. OSU's portal class is nowhere what it was last year.

Saban retiring has proven to be a big hit to the perception of the SEC. I questioned the wisdom of KD taking that job, and the water has to be feeling a little warm.

Also, looks like Kelly is f***ing things up at LSU. He's just such a bastard nobody can stand him. That job should be a beast.

As far as GA goes, much respect to Smart as a coach, but that team just never clicked.

So, I think the SEC's downfall is somewhat cyclical; however, we also know that sometimes perception becomes reality. It feels like the addition of the PAC 4 and the new television contract have altered perceptions. Also the 12 team playoff. SEC teams playing in the frozen north in December will not fare well.

I was listening to a college football podcast the other day, and the question came up...."What college football fanbases believe they should be in the hunt for a NC every year?" The SEC has 9--GA; Bama; Auburn; Florida; TN; GA; TX; OK; and TX A&M. The BT has 6--Michigan; OSU; Nebraska; USC; PSU & Oregon. The ACC has 3--FSU, Clemson & Miami. The Big 12 has none. ND makes 20. But the interesting question is....was adding Texas & Oklahoma too much of a good thing.? We shall see.

 

[76-1]

The BT certainly kicked the SEC's ass this year.....but I think all "the king is dead, long live the king" talk is a bit premature.

SEC teams still dominated the HS recruit ratings this year, and the SEC is doing the best overall in the transfer portal by far. OSU's portal class is nowhere what it was last year.

Saban retiring has proven to be a big hit to the perception of the SEC. I questioned the wisdom of KD taking that job, and the water has to be filling a little warm.

Also, looks like Kelly is f***ing things up at LSU. He's just such a bastard nobody can stand him. That job should be a beast.

As far as GA goes, much respect to Smart as a coach, but that team just never clicked.

So, I think the SEC's downfall is somewhat cyclical; however, we also know that sometimes perception becomes reality. It feels like the addition of the PAC 4 and the new television contract have altered perceptions. Also the 12 team playoff. SEC teams playing in the frozen north in December will not fare well.

I was listening to a college football podcast the other day, and the question came up...."What college football fanbases believe they should be in the hunt for a NC every year?" The SEC has 9--GA; Bama; Auburn; Florida; TN; GA; TX; OK; and TX A&M. The BT has 6--Michigan; OSU; Nebraska; USC; PSU & Oregon. The ACC has 3--FSU, Clemson & Miami. The Big 12 has none. ND makes 20. But the interesting question is....was adding Texas & Oklahoma too much of a good thing.? We shall see.

Correction: The Big Ten now has 7 (you're forgetting someone 😉)... 🏈

 

[IUfan1957]

You'd be one of the few

That don't think you know it all and we are growing.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

I would like some feedback from all the armchair Coaches on this. To reset the situation, OSU is leading 31-23 with approximately 15 Seconds left in the Game. They have 4th down at the Notre Dame 5 Yard line. Notre Dame has no timeouts remaining. If You successfully kick the field goal, as OSU did You put the game out of reach. If You run an Offensive Play and don't get the Touchdown, You give Notre Dame the ball on their own 5 Yard line with 15 Seconds left in the game, with the ability to stop the clock by getting a ball carrier out of bounce at the end of a Play, getting a first down, or spiking the ball at the line of scrimmage. With that amount of time on the clock, They may be able to run 3 plays at the most. Also this is College Rules so a pass interference penalty is 15 yards, not a spot of infraction foul.
If it is my decision, I avoid attempting the field goal. Here is my reasoning. If the opponent blocks the field goal, ,their players have all their momentum headed toward the other hand of the field, and They will be the first to see where the ball is going following the block. My field goal kicking team has 9 guys blocking at the line of scrimmage who have to turn around to find the ball after the block and start running from a flat footed standing start. I also have a holder on his knee and a kicker following through, neither of Whom is in a position to get into the Play. With a good bounce, one of the defenders can scoop and score with a clear field ahead of Them.
I would rather rely on the ability of my Defense to Defend 95 Yards of the field for 3 plays to prevent a Touchdown and tying 2 point conversion.
I'm interested in what decision You would make as a Coach.

One hundred percent no way do i kick the ball, for the reason that you stated. The only way Notre Dame has any shot at winning is a blocked FG attempt

 

[Sonap]

Loved the FG. It made me money as did taking ND +27.5 in the 3rd

 

[welshman#]

They clearly should’ve pretended to take a knee and run it in for another TD

 

[4IUSox2]

I see both sides. I, too, probably opt to kick it for a 2 possession lead, since not much more than PAT distance. But, see the other side too. Bad snap, botched hold, blocked kick, all kinds of craziness can ensue going the other way.

Huge HS rivalry game, both teams in largest class at the time, 5A, I was at about 15 years ago. My alma mater on the road, dominates the first, but only up 7-3 near end of half. Really good HS kicker lines up for last play of half, an appx 40 yard FG to go up 10-3…Blocked!!! TD the other way, now down 10-7 at half.

Never get the lead, or much momentum, back in the second half. Lose by 3 or 4.

 

[76-1]

They clearly should’ve pretended to take a knee and run it in for another TD

Yeah, where have we seen that one before...

 

[Bucket Getter]

It was an absolutely horrible decision to kick that freaking FG! Cost me $120 on the 4th leg of a 4 leg parlay where I had ND +10.5! I despise that cartoon character coach and hope IU and CCC puts a beatdown on that clown very soon. I fully expected that jackass QB to fake a knee at the end and run it in like they did to us. Karma will be a delicious bitch when it comes around.

 

[Al Bino]

Totally different situation. 2 scores vs one score.

May be but my point still stands - take the points every time.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

May be but my point still stands - take the points every time.

That’s how Penix beat Penn State. It was a dumb move.

 

[BaxterIU]

I was listening to a college football podcast the other day, and the question came up...."What college football fanbases believe they should be in the hunt for a NC every year?" The SEC has 9--GA; Bama; Auburn; Florida; TN; GA; TX; OK; and TX A&M. The BT has 6--Michigan; OSU; Nebraska; USC; PSU & Oregon. The ACC has 3--FSU, Clemson & Miami. The Big 12 has none. ND makes 20. But the interesting question is....was adding Texas & Oklahoma too much of a good thing.? We shall see.

Nebraska? They were rarely in the conversation of a B10 West division title, along with the likes of Purdue, Illinois, and Iowa.
Nyuk, nyuk...

 

[Al Bino]

That’s how Penix beat Penn State. It was a dumb move.

One outlier does not make it a dumb move.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

One outlier does not make it a dumb move.

Obviously there are more examples that I'm not aware of. And probably as similar of a small number as the number of times a blocked FG has caused a team to lose in the final seconds.

 

[vesuvius13]

Obviously there are more examples that I'm not aware of. And probably as similar of a small number as the number of times a blocked FG has caused a team to lose in the final seconds.

It is really about how much you believe in your defense.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

May be but my point still stands - take the points every time.

It is easy to say that in hindsight. There are more similar situations. Miami lost to Ga Tech because of handing the ball off and having a fumble recovered by the defense and Tech scored. The Giants vs Eagles several years ago a mishandled handoff ends with a fumble returned for a touchdown. Yes ordinarily you go up by 2 scores however 15 seconds remaining, no timeouts and 95 yards and a 2 point conversion is really questionable.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Nebraska? They were rarely in the conversation of a B10 West division title, along with the likes of Purdue, Illinois, and Iowa.
Nyuk, nyuk...

I read their forum quite a bit. They've lost like 8 times in a row to Iowa, and they still make fun of Iowa. So I'm not saying their aspirations are reality-based, but their fanbase still absolutely believes they SHOULD be in the hunt for a NC every year. And the thing is.......those NCs don't go away. Just like IU basketball........as long as the fans care there is still hope. It's not yet a Pitt or Minnesota situation where the fire is extinguished. That said, I'm not sure Rhule is the guy. He's better than Frost for sure, and has improved the situation, but he comes across as pretty mediocre.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

The BT certainly kicked the SEC's ass this year.....but I think all "the king is dead, long live the king" talk is a bit premature.

SEC teams still dominated the HS recruit ratings this year, and the SEC is doing the best overall in the transfer portal by far. OSU's portal class is nowhere what it was last year.

Saban retiring has proven to be a big hit to the perception of the SEC. I questioned the wisdom of KD taking that job, and the water has to be feeling a little warm.

Also, looks like Kelly is f***ing things up at LSU. He's just such a bastard nobody can stand him. That job should be a beast.

As far as GA goes, much respect to Smart as a coach, but that team just never clicked.

So, I think the SEC's downfall is somewhat cyclical; however, we also know that sometimes perception becomes reality. It feels like the addition of the PAC 4 and the new television contract have altered perceptions. Also the 12 team playoff. SEC teams playing in the frozen north in December will not fare well.

I was listening to a college football podcast the other day, and the question came up...."What college football fanbases believe they should be in the hunt for a NC every year?" The SEC has 9--GA; Bama; Auburn; Florida; TN; GA; TX; OK; and TX A&M. The BT has 6--Michigan; OSU; Nebraska; USC; PSU & Oregon. The ACC has 3--FSU, Clemson & Miami. The Big 12 has none. ND makes 20. But the interesting question is....was adding Texas & Oklahoma too much of a good thing.? We shall see.

Texas A&M lol

Hasn't even won a CONFERENCE title in almost 30 years. Haven't been in a conference championship game since that time.

 

[Crossblock]

It is easy to say that in hindsight. There are more similar situations. Miami lost to Ga Tech because of handing the ball off and having a fumble recovered by the defense and Tech scored. The Giants vs Eagles several years ago a mishandled handoff ends with a fumble returned for a touchdown. Yes ordinarily you go up by 2 scores however 15 seconds remaining, no timeouts and 95 yards and a 2 point conversion is really questionable.

The Notre Dame place kicker proved that points from a short distance aren't automatic. He hit the upright on a field goal attempt that was approximately the same distance as the OSU Field Goal. My point in the initial post was that I Coach to guard against the biggest possible disaster that could lead to a Notre Dame touchdown. With the Number 1 Defense in the Country, Notre Dame with no timeouts, and 15 Seconds on the clock, I have confidence in the Defense. Besides I have control of my Defense set up and can take away some throwing options from Notre Dame.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

I agree the chances of getting a FG blocked and scooped up and returned for a TD are very minute. But I think a lot of coaches will agree take the knee and defend 95 yards and 2 points. Especially with 15 seconds and no timeouts and the number 1 defense in the country. I learned a long time ago not to count on kickers.

 

[vesuvius13]

I agree the chances of getting a FG blocked and scooped up and returned for a TD are very minute. But I think a lot of coaches will agree take the knee and defend 95 yards and 2 points. Especially with 15 seconds and no timeouts and the number 1 defense in the country. I learned a long time ago not to count on kickers.

Those of us that have been in that position with the real life consequences would choose to take a knee and play defense.

 

[YOTHN]

The Notre Dame place kicker proved that points from a short distance aren't automatic. He hit the upright on a field goal attempt that was approximately the same distance as the OSU Field Goal. My point in the initial post was that I Coach to guard against the biggest possible disaster that could lead to a Notre Dame touchdown. With the Number 1 Defense in the Country, Notre Dame with no timeouts, and 15 Seconds on the clock, I have confidence in the Defense. Besides I have control of my Defense set up and can take away some throwing options from Notre Dame.

Put your punt returner in your end zone. Snap the ball, punt it back to him and let him run around until the time runs out or he walks out of the back of the end zone for a safety. I see no possible issues with this theory. Thoughts? vbg

 

[vesuvius13]

Put your punt returner in your end zone. Snap the ball, punt it back to him and let him run around until the time runs out or he walks out of the back of the end zone for a safety. I see no possible issues with this theory. Thoughts? vbg

Not a bad strategy as long as the returner catches the ball and ends up taking it out of the endzone. The problem would be if time didn't run out then you have to kick from the twenty giving the opponent good field position.

 

[YOTHN]

Not a bad strategy as long as the returner catches the ball and ends up taking it out of the endzone. The problem would be if time didn't run out then you have to kick from the twenty giving the opponent good field position.

lol I would be more apt to have my speedster take a VERY long snap (gives him more time in case he bobbles it), to then run it to their end zone and try to run as much time off the clock as he can.

What happens if you run it back and have the ball in the end zone, then just throw a forward pass as high and far as you can (into open space)? Its still a legal pass. ha

No matter the case, this is all ridiculous behavior that under duress, opens you up for a colossal mistake that results in an easy TD for the other team. haha But funny to pontificate upon this absolute nonsense.