Dolson caved to the Bob Knight old fogeys when he hired Woodson. No more "Knight guys or "IU guys". Get the best coach out there!
No More Concession Hires!
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I’m hearing it will be Isiah or Randy Wittman. They get IU bball.
Have you ever worked somewhere and your superiors told you to do something or make a decision you fully didn’t agree with?
Did you quit the job on the spot or do what they said to do and tow the line?
Dolson was set to hire Thad Matta. He was overruled. Dolson isn't the problem.
Wasn’t overruled. In fact they had reached an agreement that morning, but Matta to his credit had too many doubts that he still had a ways to go in his recovery to give the job his all. He backed out and the idea came about for Woody to take it on with Matta as a quasi basketball liason (obviously Woody didn’t embrace that). Woody had the alumni connects, but Stevens actually gave him a glowing recommendation as well. In about 12 hours it went from Matta to what we saw play out.
It was the worst hire we ever made but I'm hoping I never have to hear again about hiring an iu guy.
I remember reading Matta at one point. The problem was the fact Woodson needed help made the hire shady as heck to begin with. Then he didn't want help. It was doomed from the start imo. I knew it at the time. Tjd saved him for a few years but then it was over. You can't hire a guy with no college experience and expect it to work.
Yeah, when Matta backed out Quinn pushed hard for Woody and expedited the decision to “save face”
Not according to how Brian Evans described his conversation with Scott Dolson. According to BE, Buckner and another member of the board had already decided on Woodson.
BE can sing whatever tune he would like, but what I just stated is not conjecture. One can make inferences when hearing a story or stories can change when telling it. I knew this all in real time and you can go back to the day of the hire if you’d like to see my posts then. I was skewered because the only other person that was sharing this story was Fepaugh. Not exactly the company you’d want to burnish your bonafides.
That's all nice and good but you give no reference to your source while dismissing mine. Not too convincing.
Apparently not given the fact that you are here getting huffy over someone not appeasing your request. I didn’t post it because I needed to be right. I posted it because I happen to have direct insights to the conversations and figured it to be relevant to this conversation. You are welcome to believe what you want and no one is stopping you. The beauty of certainty is that I don’t need to debate it. Have a great day!
Yes by all means, Isiah Thomas. Just what IU needs is for someone to bring the FIU experience to IU. Oh wait we already have that!
What a quandary. Do I believe Brian Evans or Evansvillehoosier88?
Woodson was risky. The assumption with Woodson and Crean was they could bank high level recruits. What has changed is some of the dolts out there have finally learned that you can't win consistently unless you can coach.
Those of us who watched Knight dismantle the Fab 5 knew coaching is #1, recruits and their stars is secondary.
Woodson was an unknown other than recruiting stars. He was mediocre. So was Crean. Not good enough.
Indiana needs a coach who can coach the doors off a team. The fans will get behind that.
Flash in the pan needs not apply.
Those of us who watched Knight dismantle the Fab 5 knew coaching is #1, recruits and their stars is secondary.
Woodson was an unknown other than recruiting stars. He was mediocre. So was Crean. Not good enough.
Indiana needs a coach who can coach the doors off a team. The fans will get behind that.
Flash in the pan needs not apply.
Can we be fair and call Crean "decent"? It was obviously time for Indiana to move on from him, but he did win a couple B1Gs, went to a few S16s, had a #1 seed, and if you take away the first three building years won 68%, all while reviving Indiana from the ashes.
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If I could just somehow delete that Syracuse game file in my memory bank, I'd be all in on this. Problem is that's the first thing that pops up in my brain every single time someone says Crean.
Yeah, it still astounds me that a man can attain his level of success without figuring out how to beat a zone defense. I’m not even talking about just Syracuse because that zone was a whole different animal, but I remember once the word got out it was like watching Jon Lester try making a throw to first. It just couldn’t compute for the man despite all his success.
Didn't Dusty May have some trouble with IU's zone recently? Sorta looked that way.
There is having trouble with a different look and defecating on oneself every time you see it ha… plenty of coaches have been thrown off by a different look, but CTC consistently looked shell shocked even when he knew he would be facing it.
That would not have ended well...why hire a guy who couldn't cut it at a lesser program?
Same way I feel about Dusty Baker after blowing out Mark Prior's arm against the Marlins in 2003 by leaving him in too long. Some things that were sure things are unforgivable.
Come on! Why would you bring that heart ache back into my life?... At least my cubs pitching reference didn’t lead to anguish.
If there’s one silver lining here, IU won’t be hiring a former player as head coach for a long long time.
What lesser program was it where he couldn't cut it? The guy had killed it at Ohio St prior to the health issues forcing him out.
That is a "hold my beer" quote. Never underestimate the ability of IU's board of trustees and athletic department to F up hiring the men's bball coach.
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