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No Comment - Your Kids are Dumb and You Probably Won’t Finish This And There’s a Twist

As an aside, I bought this record album back in high school, based completely on the cover art being pretty badass:

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Trillion was a 70's Chicago area prog rock band, and this album wasn't too bad.
Sounds a little like Rush here (@BradStevens will immediately think it is crap):

 
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He’s proved a very savvy political operative. The Mitch McConnell of rivals moderators. That said we could oust him with a coup. In speaking to the previous owner it became pretty clear that to do so would cost in the neighborhood of tens of dollars. Or in terms you’ll understand. A damaged Nintendo Mike Tyson punch out game with no box. There hasn’t been enough of an appetite; yet.

I'm calling bullshit.

You thought you had Mark out with the new owners and for a day or two, you were riding high. Mark was lying low like the rest of us peasants, waiting to show his fangs.

He was playing nice until smack, the gods above saw fit to give us our Gatlin gun back. Our prodigal son has returned!

Watch out mothertruckers! You never know when Mark will be taking a well deserved coffee break, delivering another set of Chinese made calipers to one of you ungrateful yahoos.
 
I'm calling bullshit.

You thought you had Mark out with the new owners and for a day or two, you were riding high. Mark was lying low like the rest of us peasants, waiting to show his fangs.

He was playing nice until smack, the gods above saw fit to give us our Gatlin gun back. Our prodigal son has returned!

Watch out mothertruckers! You never know when Mark will be taking a well deserved coffee break, delivering another set of Chinese made calipers to one of you ungrateful yahoos.
Jim was ready to flip the switch for a sbx gift card. The new owner already exposed himself with his grade school comment. The dream team spends more on Joe’s tab at the annual than it would cost to run a coup
 
I'm calling bullshit.

You thought you had Mark out with the new owners and for a day or two, you were riding high. Mark was lying low like the rest of us peasants, waiting to show his fangs.

He was playing nice until smack, the gods above saw fit to give us our Gatlin gun back. Our prodigal son has returned!

Watch out mothertruckers! You never know when Mark will be taking a well deserved coffee break, delivering another set of Chinese made calipers to one of you ungrateful yahoos.
mcm666 had an equally protracted and insane email exchange with Jim Coyle, screaming for Uncle's ouster as a mod.
Not only did that not happen, Coyle said "Fvck this crazy SOB...I need this like I need a hole in my head", and took his ball to another playground.
The timing of it all is obvious.
 
To anyone outside of the woke there’s a massive problem with black culture. And Crockett only makes it worse by perpetuating it. That doesn’t mean a kid in north Stl isn’t challenged.

I went to a lower class high school. My partner’s dad had the number two locker at old warson. Oldddddd ladue $. I waited for drs to fck up Hoosiers friends to get hit on the Highway and cops to get hurt at work. He did securities and deposited fat retainers.

Where you start in life isn’t dispositive but it makes a huge difference.

Today I’m blessed bc those same lawyers with money fund my get rich schemes. But I started just high enough to be able to get to college. The hood. Appalachia. Must feel impossible. Not even on their radar


MM66, hey man, black culture ain't totally bad.

Take fried chicken, for example. Now don't tell me you don't occasionally eat fried chicken.

Even here though, Scottish immigrants take claim for bringing fried chicken to America. Proving once again, black folks don't get credit for anything, except maybe for statistics such as having so many in prison.
 
But he is referring to perception, after all.

Not that this doesn’t matter at all. It does.
I think he was pointing out the negative tradeoffs to the system we have. Two quick examples. One of them is a concentration of wealth for those who own the assets at the detriment of those who don't own them. Another is that houses, education, healthcare, and stocks are more expensive today when compared to the average wage as a percentage of GDP. Those are both a reality for a majority of the population. His overall point I took away is it's bad and not sustainable long term, which I agree with.
 
I'm saying you wouldn't understand Comparative Advantage, or economics more broadly, because you spend your time reading thousand-year-old made-up stories and trying to apply them to modern life.
The Bible is not a made up collection of stories. It is one story spanning 1600 yrs of writing. The Apostle Peter explains how Scriptures came to be in 2 Peter 1 :
16 For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”[b] 18 We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.


19 We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

So explain to me how Comparative Advantage works when we lose 300 Billion a year. It's not just one year. It's every year in the recent past.
 
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Stop digging.
Mark here is the thing. I remember years ago when I was talking about the deficit and leftists on here were saying it is not that big of a deal. Today, we have interest on the debt which matches up with our spending on our military. And we spend a lot on the military. Common sense tells us that you can't keep losing money like that every year and it not come to bite us.
 
Mark here is the thing. I remember years ago when I was talking about the deficit and leftists on here were saying it is not that big of a deal. Today, we have interest on the debt which matches up with our spending on our military. And we spend a lot on the military. Common sense tells us that you can't keep losing money like that every year and it not come to bite us.
You are confusing different concepts here. The trade deficit is not the budget deficit.
 
Here’s a great policy that is benefitting children and raising people out of poverty. It also has the benefit of incentivizing people to have more kids (social engineering for the win!) which we desperately need:

 
It's not just screens. It's 45 years of income inequality as well (think Appalachia). We're witnessing the 2nd generation. Imagine what the 3rd and 4th generations will look like.
Not just that. Also drugs, medicinal and recreational.

And minimally nutritional food.

And speaking specifically about reasoning, there’s also the effect of demagoguery such as that spewed by Rush Limbaugh in his heyday, dumbing down his listeners understanding of the world to overly simplistic sound bites and conclusions. But that’s adults of course. Who didn’t grow up reasoning.
 
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Mark here is the thing. I remember years ago when I was talking about the deficit and leftists on here were saying it is not that big of a deal. Today, we have interest on the debt which matches up with our spending on our military. And we spend a lot on the military. Common sense tells us that you can't keep losing money like that every year and it not come to bite us.
Why would you say "leftists" as if it is some boogeyman? Does not Galatians 3:28 say something along the lines of "There is neither Jew nor Greek; there is neither slave nor free; nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Jesus."
 
Right but I’m not solely speaking about money. I’m talking about the school you went to. The career you had. Those are ends too. And getting to them is tantamount to conquering Everest with where some start
Getting to any summit can be an individual’s Everest. The starting point won’t matter.
 
The Bible is not a made up collection of stories. It is one story spanning 1600 yrs of writing. The Apostle Peter explains how Scriptures came to be in 2 Peter 1 :
16 For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”[b] 18 We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.


19 We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

So explain to me how Comparative Advantage works when we lose 300 Billion a year. It's not just one year. It's every year in the recent past.

I'll wait to explain it to you until you realize that trade deficits and fiscal deficits are distinct concepts.
 
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Sure it does. If one guy starts from halfway up the mountain and the other guy starts at the village of hommlet 10 miles away, that's a pretty big deal
Don’t agree. You are judging the village guy by looking at the halfway up the mountain guy. The village guy could end up on a different (lower) summit but be more content with his accomplishments.
 
You've shifted focus in your discussion to individual, subjective contentment.
We have to individualize the notion of a successful life , don’t we?. I used individual contentment as a measure but there are others. The measure of success of one raised in rural Nebraska and goes to trade school is not relevant to the measure of one raised in an upper east side apartment and goes to the Ivy League. This is why I don’t see the importance of the starting point.
 
Many of the posters on the board are totally worthless. We once had a poster who went by cray. He made his living on the backroads. Finding forgotten treasures with enough meat left on the bone that he could turn them

He was a political man too. Could clear out the board in less than an hour. With a Gatling gun approach to posting. Libs, primarily mark, had no defense so proceeded to just summarily ban him for long stretches. Then when he’d finally be freed he’d be wild. Feral almost. Each time they did it, to torture him, he’d come back worse.

Was a disgusting period on the board. A low point

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We have to individualize the notion of a successful life , don’t we?. I used individual contentment as a measure but there are others. The measure of success of one raised in rural Nebraska and goes to trade school is not relevant to the measure of one raised in an upper east side apartment and goes to the Ivy League. This is why I don’t see the importance of the starting point.
We are talking about material outcomes, CoH. You're essentially arguing those don't matter as much as psychological happiness and contentment. I agree with you, to an extent. But I also think the material stuff very much matters and that people are still at a disadvantage even on your happiness and contentment vectors depending on their upbringing, genetics, experience, etc.
 
Mark here is the thing. I remember years ago when I was talking about the deficit and leftists on here were saying it is not that big of a deal. Today, we have interest on the debt which matches up with our spending on our military. And we spend a lot on the military. Common sense tells us that you can't keep losing money like that every year and it not come to bite us.
Some downsides to trade deficits is you end up hollowing out your manufacturing and the middle class somewhat. If we didn't have a magic money printer the deficits would correct themselves at some point (quicker in my opinion) because country A (surplus nation) would eventually end up owning all/most of country B (deficit nation) stuff. Taking it to the extreme once they owned all of country B's land, assets, and equities, they'd stop sending them their goods for their magic paper.
 
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We are talking about material outcomes, CoH. You're essentially arguing those don't matter as much as psychological happiness and contentment. I agree with you, to an extent. But I also think the material stuff very much matters and that people are still at a disadvantage even on your happiness and contentment vectors depending on their upbringing, genetics, experience, etc.

He who has the most toys wins?

I think there is more to good outcomes.

Maybe it’s an age thing. I’m not aware of many obits that dwell on material outcomes.

Individual wealth isn't the end all or be all but there is an earnings inflection point where people tend to level off on contentedness. That number is $108,000 in today's dollars (it was $75,000 at the time of the study). That is the point where people tend to stop just getting by and instead are able to obtain a level of comfort which majorly impacts happiness, mainly because of decreased economic stresses involved when you fall below that line.


I think CoH was making a mistake up above saying he was as happy in his mountain cabin as the people in the expensive houses. That is comparing Fuji apples to Granny Smith. Both apples and just a question of taste. Comparing that to someone who has made the best decisions they could in life but is stuck in a neighborhood with gun battles, drug addicts, alcoholics, and various other crimes and saying that despite their station they can be happy is true, but man does it overlook the quality of life they are living, particularly when compared to the nice suburb or mountain cabin (which probably is quite a bit more luxurious than a poor Appalachian mountain cabin....)

I don't know what the answers are with any amount of certainty, but I do believe that the distribution of wealth in the country has reached a point of destabilization. Some of the craziness we are all seeing is a function of that IMO.
 
He who has the most toys wins?

I think there is more to good outcomes.

Maybe it’s an age thing. I’m not aware of many obits that dwell on material outcomes.
This discussion started regarding poverty, so no, it's not who has the most toys wins.

Go ahead and tell those in poverty (36.8 million by the last census; 10 million of whom are children) "hey, there's more to it than that. You don't need any toys. Someday you might earn $50K a year and that will be a huge success for you!"
 
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We are talking about material outcomes, CoH. You're essentially arguing those don't matter as much as psychological happiness and contentment. I agree with you, to an extent. But I also think the material stuff very much matters and that people are still at a disadvantage even on your happiness and contentment vectors depending on their upbringing, genetics, experience, etc.
Good times are only good when accompanied by lots of money.
 
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