When was the last time we had 1 4 star and 6 3 stars committed before 1 July?
Nice start to the next recruiting class.
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It is a decent start, plus having two top ten in state kids pledged up in Tracy and Robbins, is a good look.
I hope it gets hotter, playing in the East, you need upper end talent. I don't think that can be overstated at this point.
I hope it gets hotter, playing in the East, you need upper end talent. I don't think that can be overstated at this point.
The B10 division alignment needs a Big adjustment. I did notice purdue's schedule is a tougher compared to what they had last year so it will be interesting to see their progress.
PU starts out with 4 home games which is advantageous. 3 of 4 are Northwestern, Missouri and BC. BC should be the toughest of the 3 as they return most of their core. A 1500yd freshman RB and starting freshman QB that led them to a 7-6 record (3rd in their ACC division) and almost beat Iowa in the bowl game.
If PU had a couple of those on the road, I would expect a down year but they have a shot. Win those games early and they set themselves up nicely. Lose them, however, and suddenly they are left with only 3 more home games all year (Ohio State, Iowa and Wisconsin). Things begin looking south.
Adding CJ to the DL for this class is huge. IU now sits with 3 talented DL and 2 solid OL prospects. I like the attention to the LOS thus far.
IU is planning to take at least 4 OL (2 inside and 2 out) as of now. Does anyone know/speculate the number of DL IU is looking to take for '19 class?
Lots of highly recruited DL still considering IU and looking to commit in the next few weeks.
IU is planning to take at least 4 OL (2 inside and 2 out) as of now. Does anyone know/speculate the number of DL IU is looking to take for '19 class?
Lots of highly recruited DL still considering IU and looking to commit in the next few weeks.
Trends seeing: IU is getting solid 3-star players who have been getting other D1 looks from good programs. We aren’t beating out OSU or UM yet for most players, but we are recruiting above MAC level of the past. If we get an all 3-stars or above group, that would be a first.
In name of depth and upgrading overall talent, it seems we are doing both. Can feel good momentum and then add the S/C & speed improvements and I believe we could indeed surprise some people sooner rather than later.
In name of depth and upgrading overall talent, it seems we are doing both. Can feel good momentum and then add the S/C & speed improvements and I believe we could indeed surprise some people sooner rather than later.
In an earlier post several days back I posted:
“That’s why I take more interest in kids like Orhorhoro (competing offers) or CJ Person (position rank, state rank and state of residence). And, they are at positions of perpetual need. You cannot take enough of them.”
Orhorhoro committed to Clemson over the weekend. We got Person. It’s important to note his state (Alabama) and state rank as all the DTs in the state of Alabama are being recruited by a lot of major schools in the south.
At home is a break for them but I think Northwestern could be a tough game. Their QB was solid 2 yrs ago and had some problems last yr. He is now a senior. Missouri could be much improved since they got their act together in second half of the season.
If you are speaking of Thorson, NU’s QB, he tore his ACL in the bowl game and there is a good chance he won’t be ready to play against PU at the end of August. At minimum, he will likely be limited, once again they catch a break.
As for recruiting, I love how PU fans are thumping their collective chests over recruiting (and many here wringing their hands over ours), yet our average star rating per recruit is higher. Ours is over 3 , theirs below. That said, I don’t get too worked up about recruiting at this point, long way to go, but I do like the way we are headed.
Love the players committed so far. 2 top 10 players from the home state. OL from PA and TN, DT for Bama, DE from Miami. OL's from traditionally strong OL states and Dlineman that are strong and fast from traditional states that produce NFL Dlines.
RB and WR with good size and speed. Lets keep this rolling!
RB and WR with good size and speed. Lets keep this rolling!
I have to think that the facility upgrades are starting to pay dividends in recruiting.The 16-year-old kid is not going to be impressed by blueprints. But now they get to see the real thing.
I don’t think it needs an adjustment. I think that it will force teams like IU to honestly step it up. CKW Also used the current alignment as a recruiting tool for IU. “If you come here you get to play Ohio state, Penn State every year”. So in all honesty, the alignment can work to IU’s advantage, and give it an advantage over PU when that game comes each year.
Purdue can say "we're competitive" (in a bad West Div.), while IU can point to playing UM, OSU, PSU & MSU every year. Also, it would seem to open up NJ & PA to us a little more, although we don't hit those states hard. On the bad side, if we slip a little our record tanks more quickly, so the downside is greater for us.
All-in-all, i believe its a negative but it is what it is.......I do think Nebraska's going to get it together in a couple of years and will be at the UM/PSU level going forward, so Purdue's window will be closing.
One thing I've always wanted to see from IU was better recruiting in OH, esp. the Cincy area........I understand our Florida recruiting more than makes up for that right now, but I'd still like to see 1 guy on the staff with strong southern OH connections.
IU has recruited Southern Ohio pretty well. Guys like Tegray Scales, Ashon Riggins, Marcus Oliver and others all hail from the Cincinnati area. Ted Bolser was from that area.
Where I'd like to see progress is in Alabama. I had no idea Alabama had a Rivals top 60 until yesterday. The state of Indiana usually has a Rivals top 20 for comparison. Alabama is a relatively easy peasy drive to Southern Indiana...I'd like to see our efforts there continue.
The one thing that's bothered me about IU's recruiting efforts in Ohio is that we don't beat Ohio State with those players we recruit from there. That's always bothered me. I completely understand the need to recruit Ohio, but I'd rather have kids from the South that can probably give you a better chance of beating a Penn State or occasionally beating an Ohio State. We play them yearly, build this thing to beat those teams...not Purdue...I want to see IU highlights flashing on ESPN beating the big boys!!
Where I'd like to see progress is in Alabama. I had no idea Alabama had a Rivals top 60 until yesterday. The state of Indiana usually has a Rivals top 20 for comparison. Alabama is a relatively easy peasy drive to Southern Indiana...I'd like to see our efforts there continue.
The one thing that's bothered me about IU's recruiting efforts in Ohio is that we don't beat Ohio State with those players we recruit from there. That's always bothered me. I completely understand the need to recruit Ohio, but I'd rather have kids from the South that can probably give you a better chance of beating a Penn State or occasionally beating an Ohio State. We play them yearly, build this thing to beat those teams...not Purdue...I want to see IU highlights flashing on ESPN beating the big boys!!
Hard not to be excited about the 2019 class as a Purdue fan when just two years ago the class was ranked in the 90s nationally. Coy Cronk was in the backyard and didn't even get an offer. Quite fortunate to have Karlaftis as a hometown kid and be rated so highly (#12 overall by 247). I am a little concerned about the OL commits for Purdue but they got offers and committed in camps at Purdue, so I assume the staff saw something they liked in person that hadn't been picked up by recruiting services.
Also, Purdue's starting QB is also coming off an ACL injury so that's a wash with the NW game.
IU has a nice class started as well, not sure why anyone would be wringing their hands at this point. Maybe if you are still sitting under 10 recruits by August/September I would start to worry but that's a long way off.
Who's wringing their hands? And we've got 10 commits already. What are you talking about?
Regarding beating out OSU for OH kids..............I remember once when Bill Mallory was talking about recruiting OH.....this was like 10 years in on his IU stay. Anyway, he mentioned that he had never beaten out OSU on a kid they wanted. He mentioned it sorta proudly, because we were then being competitive with OSU, but it was kind of a disheartening thing to hear as a fan.....
I think Ohio has actually opened up a little for the IUs, UKs, MSUs et al because Urban takes fewer OH kids than did Hayes, Bruce, Cooper---basically anymore, they don't take kids lower than #20 or so.....that leaves a lot of leftovers that can play.
Overall, I don't see how anyone can be reasonably displeased with our recruiting last year and this year.. Almost every kid we're getting has other P5 offers.
Being excited is one thing, unrealistic exuberance is another. We are already at 10 commits and our only one under 3 stars is a long snapper, they get no respect as he is rated the 2nd best LS in the country. It is nice to see CTA placing an emphasis on special teams.
Sindelar may be coming off an ACL, but injuries of this nature do differ. While I don’t know the exact diagnosis for either, it seems Thorson’s was worse. If you saw the play , it was ugly, and he had to be taken off in a golf cart. Sindelar , on the other hand, played with his for 3 1/2 games, which would indicate to me he had a partial tear , so he still had some stability. Not trying to minimize his injury, but they can, and do, differ. Kudos to him for sucking it up and playing with it. Furthermore, Sindelar had surgery almost a full month before Thorson, and Brohm seems to indicate he expects Sindelar to be ready in the fall. Fitz doesn’t seem nearly as confident about Thorson for the early part of the season. One final difference is PU has an experienced QB that was rotating with Sindelar anyway , so if need be , Blough could fill in admirably (if he doesn’t win the starting spot outright). NU ,on the other hand, has no real experienced option behind Thorson, especially to go play a Big Ten division opponent opening night on the road.
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Getting players this early would seem to indicate Allen is able to land players that he wanted (i.e. not plan B).
How many scholarships do we have for 2019?
Seems like the more we fill up early, the pickier we can be later and push the if you don't commit now, there may not be space for you later approach that the bigger programs get to do.
How many scholarships do we have for 2019?
Seems like the more we fill up early, the pickier we can be later and push the if you don't commit now, there may not be space for you later approach that the bigger programs get to do.
The post I quoted from Johnsy said some here are wringing their hands about the class so far. Not sure who the some are I am just quoting someone else there. And when I posted that I believe IU was at 9 commits, I think #10 was the LS and now just picked up #11 a LB? I might be 1 behind still.
Please don't mention that name here... Brings his minions over like flies (a very appropriate comparison)
I addressed the "unrealistic exuberance" with my own worries about the OL commits. I would like to see them be higher than either unranked or low 3* but I didn't get to see them in person so maybe they were just under the radar. That is what I have to hope, I guess.
To your point, PU has some high level kids (4 stars) in the class and beat out some impressive competing offers and then mixed in with that they have some linemen that were at the low 3-star and a 2-star here and there that balances it down a bit. Obviously, coaches see things in camps that ignore the Rivals offer sheets.
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