He’s far from great but I think he’s about as good as Purdue can hope for. I’d never want him at IU. IU should have higher standards than Purdue.
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Go get bent with your loser mentality. By the way, you’re the who gets upset and whines when someone points out IU has blown a#% for 2 decades, not me. Not everyone bends over and just takes it like you jet.
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Loser mentality is someone convinced failure is imminent, which you & your cronies Feepaw & Cryingo are masters of. What a way to live.
That would be called an opinion. It's my opinion Archie will not win a national title at IU and is not an elite coach. If you have a different opinion, no worries.
The loser mentality was directed towards fanboys like you who have this notion that alums have to cheer blindly and accept whatever IU does and if they don't they're b#tches. Hopefully, that doesn't upset your sensibilities.
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Your example of Marquette is flawed. In the period of McGuire, Marquette was an independent. There was no Big East. The NCAA selection process was strongly biased against independents. It reinforced that as time went on which is why Dave Gavitt pushed for the creation of the Big East, which was made up of primarily Catholic urban schools that had no football programs of consequence, if any, and thus were at a disadvantage at selction time. FYI, ND and BC are the only Catholic colleges playing serious football. Marquette under McGuire had been to other F4s prior to beating NC, so I am not sure exactly what their ceiling was other than a championship - which is true of anyone.
Villanova had been to a F4, losing to UCLA iirc. They beat another BE school in Georgetown the year in which 3 of the F4 teams were from that conference. All mid-majors that should not have had a real chance under your theory. Then there was a fallow period and they became a power. Did the ceiling change? If so, then the ceiling is not a hard ceiling. Did George Mason, VCU or recent Loyola have ceilings? They did not.
Your logic is specious added by an anti-Purdue vibe that colors your ability to see clearly.
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George Mason, VCU, or Loyola did not win a national title. Nor will they ever likely win a National Title. They can not stack enough talent to do so. Just like PU. Your logic is flawed and cannot see the reality that PU will never win. I thought it was quite interesting to see all of the Purdue fans flocking to Louisville taking selfies that Purdue was going to the Final Four only to choke and lose as expected. As Batman used to say, "Catwoman, when will you ever learn?" Apparently never, for PU fans. The game changer could be the elimination of the NBA one and done rule, which will dilute the college basketball talent pool which should make PU more competitive nationally, not just regionally and in conference. With the current rules none of these teams have any realistic chance of ever winning.
Because I’m willing to cheer for them blindly doesn’t mean I accept anything. I’m not convinced Archie is the guy, I’m just not going to be an emotional little girl about it. Your message board hand wringing won’t accomplish any more than me remaining optimistic & cheering for the team, but I suspect you take that negative approach in all aspects of life & are most likely a loser.
Hand wringing? So, anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion as, jet812, is an emotional girl and b#tch. Gotcha.
Cheer harder. Maybe we will win more games.
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Using your logic, Virginia would not have won last year. They had not been to a F4 in decades. They must have had a ceiling, but they won. How do you explain them using your logic?They played Texas Tech, which had also not been to a F4 ever. The last game contradicts your theory.
It is ridiculous to say that something can never happen, barring the invention of a Perpetual Motion Machine which would violate the Second Law of Thermodyamics. Long shots occur all the time. Winning an NC is a combination of skill and luck.
Elimination of the OAD rule would not have affected either team that was in the NC game last year, so I have no idea why you think that changes things that prevent those with the mythical ceilings from achieving one.
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Not understanding that expecting to lose is a loser mentality is a loser’s mentality . . .
Blind loyalty was not the root cause for the down slide. There are two distinct decisions that were made by the administration since the firing of Knight. The first was self reporting Sampson’s text messages in a world when players were getting paid. That set the stage for Crean’s “rebuild” narrative. The second was giving Crean a fourth year. This has nothing to do with the fans standard of excellence. Indiana fans have been loyal through self destruction. That is positive, not negative. It makes us an attractive job for coaches. Archie has earned three years. If he doesn’t get into the tournament, he should be out. Fred should be out too.
Welcome back.
Hopefully your behavior this time around will allow you to stay longer.
Good luck.
“Comes in many forms”...reading comprehension not a strength of yours I see...
He's become very good. That's tough for me to say.
At one point in time, I thought he was equal to Crean. He had things fall in place for him and had a couple outstanding seasons as a result. Once that Perfect Storm class was gone, he struggled mightily.
During the seasons where his teams, and he himself struggled, he learned what kinds of players not to recruit (see Brothers Johnson) and found guys who fit the identity that Purdue currently has. As a result, he has put together three really good seasons in a row. Hell, you're picking the 4th this season. Now the majority of those Purdue guys I know don't remember that they wanted him out four years ago.
Makes me wonder, should something similar happen at IU, will your memory fail you?
The problem is... you're wrong much more than you realize.
And if it takes him time to adjust to the college game and having not played in an actual game is over a year while being severely limited in practice during much of that time? He was a top 50 recruit out of HS but he might not look like that next year, at least early. If it takes him a season of play to adjust are expectations too low? I think possibly your expectations of Hunter may be too high at this time.
Edit: This is a decent article on expectations for him.
https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-...-jerome-hunter-returns-to-action-for-indiana/
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If Hunter is healthy enough for 10 points and 4 rebounds as this article suggested, that should definitely be enough to add to the rest of a healthy roster to boost IU higher than 10th in the B1G. And into NCAA Tournament contention.
10 points is a lot. I don't think his minutes will be high enough to expect 10ppg. I think he can score, but ppg is probably difficult to estimate until we see how much he plays.
The main question is who is going to take the bull by the horns offensively in tough situations? The guys need to be so much better at looking for their shot. Morgan was the first and last option on most possessions of the past 2 seasons. It may take a while for someone to emerge. Green will probably try to but he may not be that successful and I expect talent to rise. Hopefully that happens early enough in the season.
The main question is who is going to take the bull by the horns offensively in tough situations? The guys need to be so much better at looking for their shot. Morgan was the first and last option on most possessions of the past 2 seasons. It may take a while for someone to emerge. Green will probably try to but he may not be that successful and I expect talent to rise. Hopefully that happens early enough in the season.
That was 10/4 by the end of the season or maybe next season. They article was saying that it will likely take him a while to get back to playing to the level he was at previously. You keep talking like you expect him to average that the whole season. That's unlikely.
IU won't need that high of production out of Hunter at the beginning of the season to win. But against the best B1G teams and by the end of the season, and hopefully the postseason, it will need a healthier & more productive Hunter to advance. If Hunter is producing 10 and 4 by the end of the season means he has worked his way back to being productive for the limited PT that he will likely get. There is hopefully a much improved health outlook for Hunter by the end of the season and next season.
Has any of this proven to be wrong yet?
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