Musselman
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Can’t stop watching this"It's Arkansas, it's Arkansas."
The current generation of high school players is more focused on the NBA now than at any point in the history of the league’s existence. This is largely due to the influence and prevalence of social media. Musselman and Brad Stevens are the two guys with NBA head coaching experience who can sit down with recruits and explain that they have the credentials to get them to league.
Nevada 2015-16
#124 overall (210 offense, 55 defense)
Nevada 2016-17
#54 overall (36 offense, 101 defense)
Nevada 2017-18
#25 overall (7 offense, 108 defense)
Nevada 2018-19
#27 overall (26 offense, 35 defense)
Arkansas 2019-20
#47 overall (55 offense, 57 defense)
Arkansas 2020-21
#18 overall (35 offense, 14 defense)
This was from another poster. I thought this was Musselman.
There are situations where I think that's a good argument. But I'm not sure it's all that good an argument for Musselman and Arkansas.
Yes, I posted that. Those are his team's overall ratings as well as adjusted offensive and defensive efficiency ratings.
I was answering another poster about why I said Musselmans college stuff seemed mediocre.
I also think he’s the guy and it will be announced as soon as Arkansas gets knocked out of the tourney.
With regard to recruiting, Archie did recruit better at IU than he did at Dayton.
Yeah, Birnk403 is nuts if he thinks Arkansas could legitimately compete with IU for retaining Musselman if he's the guy Dolson and the two donors really want.
Yes. They are an equally starving program. Also - the thought could be to pay him now before Duke, UNC, etc open up. Could be an arms race for him.
But if the next coach is going to get maybe $5mm/year, it has to be Stevens or Beard ... Mussel as a wildcard - he coached with Smart - so maybe that’s his angle in too.
Either way, it’s a big money play here.
It is not an obsession with Knight. It about the bar he set as an Indiana Coach. It is about the intensity with which his teams played and the fact it was not unrealistic at the beginning of most seasons to think we might be contending for another Big Ten and National Title. I really don't know if it's even possible for a coach to bring back Indiana Basketball to a level close to what it was the Knight era. However, It would be nice to have consecutive 20+ game winning seasons for a change....and to look forward to the NCAA Tournament.
Beginning each season with a feeling that IU will be a legitimate Big Ten regular season champion contender and one of the best teams in college basketball is absolutely possible. All it requires is a coach who will win! And being an "IU guy" or a "Knight guy" is not a prerequisite to winning. That's the piece the older fans have to let go of.
I think you answered your own question: super hot wife and 5'7"? Was he a millionaire when he met her?
And being an "IU guy" or a "Knight guy" is not a prerequisite to winning. That's the piece the older fans have to let go of.
The IU administration has followed your line of thinking for the past 20 years and how has that worked out? I don’t see any obvious “Knight Guy” or “IU Guy” and I can only hope that the person(s) making this decision will hire the best “Basketball Coach“ possible.
The IU administration has followed your line of thinking for the past 20 years and how has that worked out? I don’t see any obvious “Knight Guy” or “IU Guy” and I can only hope that the person(s) making this decision will hire the best “Basketball Coach“ possible.
IU has made four bad hires since Bobby Knight was fired. Hiring an "IU guy" does not guarantee it would be a good hire.
Mike Davis had never been a head coach.
Kelvin Sampson likely would have won big time at IU, but engaged in what were illegal phone calls at the time.
Tom Crean was 190-96 at Marquette. He went to the NIT twice and was knocked out in the first weekend of the NCAA Tournament in three consecutive seasons before taking the IU job.
Archie Miller was unproven at the Power Five level and had never coached under a brand name head coach.
For IU, it's all about hiring a PROVEN WINNER. Davis, Crean and Miller were not proven winners at the highest level before they were hired.
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Maybe a majority of posters that age think that way but as a over 50 IU grad, I obviously don't agree.
Get the BEST damn coach money can buy!
Dolson will. That’s why he is using Monopoly money here. He could’ve easily waited a year and saved a ton of cash. This is big money time.
**** NO
Cant beleive hes even being considered.
Jesus ****ing christ get your shit together IU.
Coaches from non power 5 conferences should be automatic disqualifier.
In good with Beard but it really needs to be Beilein.
1: It will prove expectations ARENT "delusional" and 2: absolutely continue to demand such from x next coach following Beilien.
Cant beleive hes even being considered.
Jesus ****ing christ get your shit together IU.
Coaches from non power 5 conferences should be automatic disqualifier.
In good with Beard but it really needs to be Beilein.
1: It will prove expectations ARENT "delusional" and 2: absolutely continue to demand such from x next coach following Beilien.
Thank you! That's what I'm talking about! All these Knight era guys talk about how the expectation should be competing for championships. I agree, so go out and hire the best damn coach there is! If that's an IU guy, so be it.
This thread is about Musselman, correct?
He coaches at Arkansas, correct?
That is the big 12, correct?
That is a power five, correct?
I understand that point - but - do you view him like Archie - up and coming assistant, then had success with a mid-major program?
Or do you consider his NBA, etc and previous experience as good enough?
Ahhh my bad.
I refused to watch ball this year after all the reverse racism"wokeness" in entertainment this year...
I forgot Musselman got re-rolled after his short stint in the tourney year before.
Still completely against it, and for other obvious reasons.
Furthermore if IU brings him in it proves IU is trolling every fan.
Ive even seen Pitino mentioned.
Ive watched IU on and off over 30 years but if Pitino is brought on ill just stop watching\supporting IU all together for good.
And anyone with any character and integrity will as well.
Hell id quit watching for good if the school themselves mentioned even merely considering Pitino.
No wonder why ppl cheat, steal, etc no goddamn consequences
Beilien is a guaranteed 4 or 5 years max. Hasn't IU been through this revolving door routine enough for a while?
And hows that any different then spending another 5 years of a coach like Crean or Archie ? Besides all the unneeded frustrations and unwarranted losses with nba caliber players.
To turn down the highest chance of success, practically guaranteed success, possibly real
championship success, at this point in 20 years of failure would be foolish
This is why IU can't afford to hire Beilein. This hire needs to be IU's guy for at least the next 10 years if all goes well.
so in year 3 when recruits realize they won't have the same coach for 4 years....recruiting is impacted and not in a good way....
Your kids going to play for BEILEIN, JOHN BEILEIN, for I U basketball.
If you dont think nba prospects will go play for that youre crazy.
Furthermore you dont know how long Beilein has left in the tank, even Beilein doesnt know how long he has left.
But go on and reach out to some coach with a far greater chance of less to offer just bc hes young, see how that works out for ya as well in "4 years".
Re-upping this thread from earlier in the week. With Stevens out of the equation, I believe Musselman is the guy Dolson needs to lock up. He’s got head coaching experience in the NBA and at the college level. He won big at Nevada and now at Arkansas. He’s a high energy guy who is on the record as saying he plays to the strength of his roster and isn’t married to a particular system or scheme.
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