They might have never been an official “offer” from Kentucky but you’ve lost your mind if you don’t think reps from Kentucky put out feelers to the reps of Oats, Donovan, etc to gauge interest.
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Other reports disagree. You think no one representing UK checked with Billy Donovan?
"I mean the job was never offered to me. It didn’t get to that point at all,” Nate Oats said.
3rd choice is being generous. More like 5th.
Call him whatever you want, the chances of Pope achieving anywhere close to the success Calipari had are slim to none.
The chances of anyone not named Hurley. achieving that is slim to none. Again, no UK fan is expecting that. Cal's run was once in a lifetime. He exploited a loop-hole. We're just expecting to be a respectable program again. Make elite 8s and sweet 16s. A final four here and there. Not lose in the 1st round of the SECT and NCAAT. You know, basic UK things.
Is apathy setting in? Good lord.
Your conjectures resonate in the clapper’s bell of knowledge. It’s an energy thing you allude to in hypothesis. The fuel of life comes in limited quantities for each individual, so listen closely.
CLOSER, yet, unless it’s fetid breath. The glowing ember deep inside can burn down low enough such that its outwardly directed radiance ceases to shine through one’s fabric. Energy of a system seeks the ground state, the 0-point of that system’s energy. Woodson is an NBA guy. Once an NBA guy, always an NBA guy. Recruits know him as simply “Coach NBA guy,” not as “one who wins with underrated players” and not as “Father figure/Family man guy”, either. From his NBA guy coaching standpoint, everything’s been handed to him, gift wrapped. He comes with a different mindset, a more unique position in life, that of worshipped man wrapped in a shroud of holiness. (I) Don’t know if he understands the needed nuances of recruiting “today’s youth” EVERYDAY here. It may not be his “advancing” age (they’re all advancing if my math is correct) or past coddling thingy, either. Some have it and some don’t. Both don’ts and do’s get along okay in life, but just in different directions of occupation-seeking travel. I once worked in a lab, sitting in front of a sign that read, “No Detail Is Too Small”. It haunts me to this day in an OCD sort of way. Coach Woody might be finding the minutia inherent in recruiting and teaching school kids too tiresome on the toenails, if you know what I mean. He may have been enjoying the good life for too long, something he just can’t shake, that be his “daze of wine and…stogies.”
That said, I like Mike. He’s an NBA guy. He’s my coach. In coach we trust he not bust, so until we hear “phi-i-t”, increasing in pitch with the passage of time, the crude sound a natural, gas explosion might make in the acoustics of a crowded elevator), we should all stick with him, noses held high.
This season coming will be his most telling, north vs south, but still probably somewhere in between, an east by north-east direction of a little more promise I hope, at least.
I apologize for my repetitiveness. It’s just that after 23 years, or so it’s come to be, original thought escapes me, for there are only so many rules to the game, as only the names and numbers change. Despite my shortcomings, I remain of erect stance, blinded in allegiance to my Alma mater, never daunted. I just can’t help myself.
Not now but you all thought you could get a Hurly or Donovan butttt……
I completely disagree with this. Of course there is a chance you may ultimately be right. But I would not discount Pope from returning UK to competitive greatness in a manner more appealing to the Kentucky faithful. Cal won one national title. His heralded freshmen frequently played bad bball with underachieving results. Pope will have a lot of resources and support to build a consistent program.
You serious Clark? In 15 years Calipari:
-won a national title
-was a national runner-up
-two additional F4’s
-3 E8’s
You literally have a Kentucky fan in this thread saying he’ll be content with Pope making Sweet 16’s and the occasional F4. Tells you all that you need to know what kind of expectations they have for Pope.
Calipari was a proven winner and recruiter prior to being hired at Kentucky. He’s the best recruiter in college basketball and having a roster capable of consistently making deep tournament runs is 75% of the battle. Mark Pope will undoubtedly see an uptick in recruiting given his status as the UK coach, but he won’t come close to being the level of recruiter that Calipari was. I’ll give Pope 6 seasons tops before he’s eventually run out of town and probably two seasons too long because he’s an alumnus.
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Lol, we don’t have those expectations. Because we think Pope will bomb. We have those because Calipari drug this program to the gutter after 2017.
No. It’s Cal. He just has to tell kids about his NBA players. His entire pitch is to get rich quick.
Consider the efficiency of the CliffsNotes version if bloated verbosity overwhelms during periods of imposing time constraints. More succinctly stated, notes are not novels.
If I am a UK fan I am pretty stoked that I will finally get to know the players. One and done is bad for long term morale. I can't tell you the great feelings I have today when I think of players like Matt Nover or Uve Blab who came in not doing much and they just got better.
I guarantee you Kentucky fans care more about winning than getting to know their players for multiple seasons.
Gotta land Sisley, Mullins and Harrelson in some combination. Miss all 3 and Woodson is basically telling the conference he can't land talent in his own backyard.
I posted here once that if Miller misses on both Furst and Trey Kaufman, he won't last another year. I'd say the same about Woodson. If he misses all 3 in state perimeter guys he won't make it.
I posted here once that if Miller misses on both Furst and Trey Kaufman, he won't last another year. I'd say the same about Woodson. If he misses all 3 in state perimeter guys he won't make it.
NIL and the portal will do wonders. Different times from when the little guy was running the show.
Best chance is Haralson and Mullins.
The recent clandestine Mullins visit was centered around promises of an evolution to a guardcentric offense. Personally I think Woody gets his guy Haralson before the Mullins/Sisley visit. Sisley may cancel because of the history with Haralson and Mullins comes and commits shortly there after. A name to watch in the spring would be Ament.
hadn't heard about a Mullins visit recently. When was this supposed to have happened? I know he cancelled 3 (PU, KU and Bama?) of his planned 10 or so visits, but is still taking the rest I believe.
He took an unofficial a few weeks back, presumably to get NIL figures in a row.
He’ll always be able to buy a solid team. ALWAYS. Problem is the coaching part. But he should be able to purchase a good enough team to keep his job as long as he wants. Enjoy
historically, i would agree with this. but in this age of the portal, it may not be as meaningful. i still want indiana kids at Indiana.
It was to see a practice. Woody was showing his new offense. It was kept pretty quiet too. At least that’s what’s rumored. Makes sense
New offense ... I hope that's true.
Don't think he was necessarily saying we needed those guys, but just the shift that PU was getting IN guys, 1 from S IN, that we offered and wanted. Always can be outliers, but historically we've generally gotten most of the guys we wanted from IN. Not so anymore...
