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Most of what makes MAGA hate the Dept of Education is rooted in lies about what they do

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I'm all for actual accounting audits (though a trained person like stollcpa would be better at that than Elon's HS hackers) and stamping out fraud and waste

But there are a lot of misconceptions about the Department and an imagined focus on wokeness. I guess what many consider to be woke are enforcing compliance with things like Title 9.

What the Department of Education does do and what it doesn’t do

It does:
1) Enforce existing federal laws, such as Title IX (sex discrimination), Title VI (race), the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
2) Ensures disbursement of some specific programmatic funds to public schools, such as special ed programs, programs to support Title 1 (raising educational metrics in low-income communities), programs to teach English to non-native speakers, Pell grants for college students
3) Fights scam institutions, such as Trump University, that take your money in return for next to nothing, fights fraud and any Constitutional rights violations, such as barring access to college housing based on race
4) Supports modernization of teaching methods, such as access to computers
5) Supports STEM programs to increase scientific literacy
6) Oversees student loan programs, payment plans, loan relief plans (none absolving you of all debt)

#6 troubles some people, and I can see that. I see no issues with roles 1-5, as long as funds are not being skimmed by anybody in the process.

What the Department of Education doesn't do:
1) Doesn’t decide curriculum or otherwise dictate what is taught, such as Common Core, or even Evolution as a foundational principle of biology
2) Doesn’t pick textbooks or library books
3) Doesn’t set standards other than to identify any programs that violate Federal laws (such as a class for only students of one race)
4) Doesn’t “run” any public school, which are managed by local and state governments, alone
5) Doesn’t hire or fire teachers, set salaries, set qualifications, or enforce preferred ideologies of teaching candidates. This is SOLELY up to states, communities, and school boards
6) Doesn’t provide any oversight over private schools, other than to enforce Federal law, such as sex or race discrimination
7) Doesn’t set or regulate tuition and fees for any institution at any level

It would seem that the main beef is that they are geared to law-and-order issues, mostly, and MAGA just can have rule of law, if a wannabe dictator disagrees with said laws.
 
I'm all for actual accounting audits (though a trained person like stollcpa would be better at that than Elon's HS hackers) and stamping out fraud and waste

But there are a lot of misconceptions about the Department and an imagined focus on wokeness. I guess what many consider to be woke are enforcing compliance with things like Title 9.

What the Department of Education does do and what it doesn’t do

It does:
1) Enforce existing federal laws, such as Title IX (sex discrimination), Title VI (race), the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
2) Ensures disbursement of some specific programmatic funds to public schools, such as special ed programs, programs to support Title 1 (raising educational metrics in low-income communities), programs to teach English to non-native speakers, Pell grants for college students
3) Fights scam institutions, such as Trump University, that take your money in return for next to nothing, fights fraud and any Constitutional rights violations, such as barring access to college housing based on race
4) Supports modernization of teaching methods, such as access to computers
5) Supports STEM programs to increase scientific literacy
6) Oversees student loan programs, payment plans, loan relief plans (none absolving you of all debt)

#6 troubles some people, and I can see that. I see no issues with roles 1-5, as long as funds are not being skimmed by anybody in the process.

What the Department of Education doesn't do:
1) Doesn’t decide curriculum or otherwise dictate what is taught, such as Common Core, or even Evolution as a foundational principle of biology
2) Doesn’t pick textbooks or library books
3) Doesn’t set standards other than to identify any programs that violate Federal laws (such as a class for only students of one race)
4) Doesn’t “run” any public school, which are managed by local and state governments, alone
5) Doesn’t hire or fire teachers, set salaries, set qualifications, or enforce preferred ideologies of teaching candidates. This is SOLELY up to states, communities, and school boards
6) Doesn’t provide any oversight over private schools, other than to enforce Federal law, such as sex or race discrimination
7) Doesn’t set or regulate tuition and fees for any institution at any level

It would seem that the main beef is that they are geared to law-and-order issues, mostly, and MAGA just can have rule of law, if a wannabe dictator disagrees with said laws.
No bias detected in this post.😂😂😂
 
I'm all for actual accounting audits (though a trained person like stollcpa would be better at that than Elon's HS hackers) and stamping out fraud and waste

But there are a lot of misconceptions about the Department and an imagined focus on wokeness. I guess what many consider to be woke are enforcing compliance with things like Title 9.

What the Department of Education does do and what it doesn’t do

It does:
1) Enforce existing federal laws, such as Title IX (sex discrimination), Title VI (race), the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
2) Ensures disbursement of some specific programmatic funds to public schools, such as special ed programs, programs to support Title 1 (raising educational metrics in low-income communities), programs to teach English to non-native speakers, Pell grants for college students
3) Fights scam institutions, such as Trump University, that take your money in return for next to nothing, fights fraud and any Constitutional rights violations, such as barring access to college housing based on race
4) Supports modernization of teaching methods, such as access to computers
5) Supports STEM programs to increase scientific literacy
6) Oversees student loan programs, payment plans, loan relief plans (none absolving you of all debt)

#6 troubles some people, and I can see that. I see no issues with roles 1-5, as long as funds are not being skimmed by anybody in the process.

What the Department of Education doesn't do:
1) Doesn’t decide curriculum or otherwise dictate what is taught, such as Common Core, or even Evolution as a foundational principle of biology
2) Doesn’t pick textbooks or library books
3) Doesn’t set standards other than to identify any programs that violate Federal laws (such as a class for only students of one race)
4) Doesn’t “run” any public school, which are managed by local and state governments, alone
5) Doesn’t hire or fire teachers, set salaries, set qualifications, or enforce preferred ideologies of teaching candidates. This is SOLELY up to states, communities, and school boards
6) Doesn’t provide any oversight over private schools, other than to enforce Federal law, such as sex or race discrimination
7) Doesn’t set or regulate tuition and fees for any institution at any level

It would seem that the main beef is that they are geared to law-and-order issues, mostly, and MAGA just can have rule of law, if a wannabe dictator disagrees with said laws.
Are you happy with our school system?
 
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I'm all for actual accounting audits (though a trained person like stollcpa would be better at that than Elon's HS hackers) and stamping out fraud and waste

But there are a lot of misconceptions about the Department and an imagined focus on wokeness. I guess what many consider to be woke are enforcing compliance with things like Title 9.

What the Department of Education does do and what it doesn’t do

It does:
1) Enforce existing federal laws, such as Title IX (sex discrimination), Title VI (race), the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
2) Ensures disbursement of some specific programmatic funds to public schools, such as special ed programs, programs to support Title 1 (raising educational metrics in low-income communities), programs to teach English to non-native speakers, Pell grants for college students
3) Fights scam institutions, such as Trump University, that take your money in return for next to nothing, fights fraud and any Constitutional rights violations, such as barring access to college housing based on race
4) Supports modernization of teaching methods, such as access to computers
5) Supports STEM programs to increase scientific literacy
6) Oversees student loan programs, payment plans, loan relief plans (none absolving you of all debt)

#6 troubles some people, and I can see that. I see no issues with roles 1-5, as long as funds are not being skimmed by anybody in the process.

What the Department of Education doesn't do:
1) Doesn’t decide curriculum or otherwise dictate what is taught, such as Common Core, or even Evolution as a foundational principle of biology
2) Doesn’t pick textbooks or library books
3) Doesn’t set standards other than to identify any programs that violate Federal laws (such as a class for only students of one race)
4) Doesn’t “run” any public school, which are managed by local and state governments, alone
5) Doesn’t hire or fire teachers, set salaries, set qualifications, or enforce preferred ideologies of teaching candidates. This is SOLELY up to states, communities, and school boards
6) Doesn’t provide any oversight over private schools, other than to enforce Federal law, such as sex or race discrimination
7) Doesn’t set or regulate tuition and fees for any institution at any level

It would seem that the main beef is that they are geared to law-and-order issues, mostly, and MAGA just can have rule of law, if a wannabe dictator disagrees with said laws.
They special education portion is terrifying to me for personal reasons. I can't afford private school for my kids. I live close to Michigan though and I know that state wouldn't end Special education programs. Indiana I'm not so sure about...
 
Are you happy with our school system?
Some are good, some are bad, some are in the middle

The Department being discussed has little-to-nothing to do with that, unless you are unhappy about being unable to do something violating laws passed by Congress

What your schools spend, what they teach, what they put in the library, what textbooks they use, and what teachers they hire and fire all is set at local and state levels, not Federal.

This informative thread seems to be something that you NEED.

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One thing I forgot, they also don't decide rules on what "parts" you need to have to compete in any sport. State-level groups like the IHSAA do that.
 
I'm all for actual accounting audits (though a trained person like stollcpa would be better at that than Elon's HS hackers) and stamping out fraud and waste

But there are a lot of misconceptions about the Department and an imagined focus on wokeness. I guess what many consider to be woke are enforcing compliance with things like Title 9.

What the Department of Education does do and what it doesn’t do

It does:
1) Enforce existing federal laws, such as Title IX (sex discrimination), Title VI (race), the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
2) Ensures disbursement of some specific programmatic funds to public schools, such as special ed programs, programs to support Title 1 (raising educational metrics in low-income communities), programs to teach English to non-native speakers, Pell grants for college students
3) Fights scam institutions, such as Trump University, that take your money in return for next to nothing, fights fraud and any Constitutional rights violations, such as barring access to college housing based on race
4) Supports modernization of teaching methods, such as access to computers
5) Supports STEM programs to increase scientific literacy
6) Oversees student loan programs, payment plans, loan relief plans (none absolving you of all debt)

#6 troubles some people, and I can see that. I see no issues with roles 1-5, as long as funds are not being skimmed by anybody in the process.

What the Department of Education doesn't do:
1) Doesn’t decide curriculum or otherwise dictate what is taught, such as Common Core, or even Evolution as a foundational principle of biology
2) Doesn’t pick textbooks or library books
3) Doesn’t set standards other than to identify any programs that violate Federal laws (such as a class for only students of one race)
4) Doesn’t “run” any public school, which are managed by local and state governments, alone
5) Doesn’t hire or fire teachers, set salaries, set qualifications, or enforce preferred ideologies of teaching candidates. This is SOLELY up to states, communities, and school boards
6) Doesn’t provide any oversight over private schools, other than to enforce Federal law, such as sex or race discrimination
7) Doesn’t set or regulate tuition and fees for any institution at any level

It would seem that the main beef is that they are geared to law-and-order issues, mostly, and MAGA just can have rule of law, if a wannabe dictator disagrees with said laws.
No. Conservatives are for a smaller Federal government. States can decide how they handle education.
 
States can decide how they handle education.
They already do, in concert with school boards / local ballot voter initiatives

The Fed policies affect schools that are poorly served by states, mostly with respect to having free reign to break Federal laws.
 
Musk or anyone working with him has not made a decision to get rid of anything.
 
No. Conservatives are for a smaller Federal government. States can decide how they handle education.
If Congress enacted Titles I, VI, and IX then Congress will have to pull them back, no?

I don't think Trump or Musk can do that. Even through impoundment.

Good Luck with that.
 
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If Congress enacted Titles I, VI, and IX then Congress will have to pull them back, no?

I don't think Trump or Musk can do that. Even through impoundment.

Good Luck with that.
I don’t have any visions of the Department of Education going away. I’m not that lucky.
 
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