Most Layoffs Since 2009

[twenty02]

For first two months of the year

January’s planned reductions brought the total through the first two months of the year to 221,812, also the highest for the period since 2009 and up 33% from the same time in 2024.

U.S. employers announced 172,017 layoffs for February, up 245% from January and the highest monthly count since July 2020, Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/layoff-announcements-soar-to-the-highest-since-2020-as-doge-slashes-federal-staff-.html

 

[Baller23Boogie]

For first two months of the year

January’s planned reductions brought the total through the first two months of the year to 221,812, also the highest for the period since 2009 and up 33% from the same time in 2024.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/layoff-announcements-soar-to-the-highest-since-2020-as-doge-slashes-federal-staff-.html

****ing Biden

 

[Baller23Boogie]

VA plans to lay off as many as 83,000 employees this year

A leaked memo released Tuesday called for VA to slash its workforce to 2019 levels that were in place before millions of veterans became newly eligible for care.

www.govexec.com

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

For first two months of the year

January’s planned reductions brought the total through the first two months of the year to 221,812, also the highest for the period since 2009 and up 33% from the same time in 2024.

U.S. employers announced 172,017 layoffs for February, up 245% from January and the highest monthly count since July 2020, Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/layoff-announcements-soar-to-the-highest-since-2020-as-doge-slashes-federal-staff-.html

Govee layoffs don’t count. Just like they didn’t count when Biden was touting his jobs numbers and significant portion were government jobs.

 

[twenty02]

Govee layoffs don’t count. Just like they didn’t count when Biden was touting his jobs numbers and significant portion were government jobs.

They don't count? LMAO.

What kind of dumbassery is that?

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

They don't count? LMAO.

What kind of dumbassery is that?

Organizations that disregard P&L can make all sorts of inflated hiring rounds. Not any kind of strong economic indicator.

 

[twenty02]

Organizations that disregard P&L can make all sorts of inflated hiring rounds. Not any kind of strong economic indicator.

It's not a lagging indicator, but a leading one. If we're talking economics. Layoffs have all sorts of downstream economic impacts. You can't just ignore highest two months of layoffs since 2009 and pretend like it doesn't matter.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Govee layoffs don’t count. Just like they didn’t count when Biden was touting his jobs numbers and significant portion were government jobs.

Of course they count and they always count. You don't think they're real people with real families spending real money?

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

It's not a lagging indicator, but a leading one. If we're talking economics. Layoffs have all sorts of downstream economic impacts. You can't just ignore highest two months of layoffs since 2009 and pretend like it doesn't matter.

Dishonest much? Spring 2020 was worse that these last two months. You’re just looking a Jan/ Feb 2025 vs Jan/ Feb 2020, which makes no sense.

January’s planned reductions brought the total through the first two months of the year to 221,812, also the highest for the period since 2009 and up 33% from the same time in 2024.


Also ignoring positive indicators.

Technology firms also listed another 14,554 in reductions, though the sector’s cuts are actually lower from a year ago.

On the upside, firms announced plans in February to hire a total of 34,580 new workers, putting the year to date total up 159% from a year ago.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Of course they count and they always count. You don't think they're real people with real families spending real money?

I’m sure they count to the people being laid off. What I’m trying to say is, we should not care.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I’m sure they count to the people being laid off. What I’m trying to say is, we should not care.

WTF? Why shouldn't we care about these people? They're good Americans that were doing their jobs the same as us.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

WTF? Why shouldn't we care about these people? They're good Americans that were doing their jobs the same as us.

Nah...every single one is a shitlib who hates America, God, families, and apple pie.

 

[toastedbread]

It's not a lagging indicator, but a leading one. If we're talking economics. Layoffs have all sorts of downstream economic impacts. You can't just ignore highest two months of layoffs since 2009 and pretend like it doesn't matter.

They want to remove government from GDP. Similar shenanigans to what fed does with inflation or the fake data Biden was pushing out but in a different direction. Unfortunately, it's hard to invest or make decisions when the official data is all BS.

 

[toastedbread]

WTF? Why shouldn't we care about these people? They're good Americans that were doing their jobs the same as us.

What really irks me is not the policy prescriptions, which in some cases may not be too far off aside from the fact that the people implementing them have the worst motives and are likely dangerous. What really irks me is the intentional cruelty. It's despicable and immoral. I am not a religious person, but when religious people support cruel policy it really makes you shake your head.

 

[bailey777]

Govee layoffs don’t count. Just like they didn’t count when Biden was touting his jobs numbers and significant portion were government jobs.

Biden touted his job numbers and all the jobs created were government jobs. I get out liberal friend on here only have one wish and that is for trump to fail and fail big time. I dont think I will be able to keep up with their the world is going to end posts every single day for the next four years. They can have conversations with each other though and I wish them luck.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Biden touted his job numbers and all the jobs created were government jobs.

That's not remotely true.

 

[outside shooter]

[Trump critics have] one wish.. for Trump to fail and fail big time.

As someone hoping to retire in 4-5 years, that's not remotely true, either. 401K tanking today, yet again.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Biden touted his job numbers and all the jobs created were government jobs. I get out liberal friend on here only have one wish and that is for trump to fail and fail big time. I dont think I will be able to keep up with their the world is going to end posts every single day for the next four years. They can have conversations with each other though and I wish them luck.

When something looks like nonsense - it's almost certainly nonsense. That IS nonsense. Workforce grew by more than the TOTAL of federal government workers so the bolded is an absolute impossibility. It was a silly notion to begin with.

Employment Grew More Under Biden And Immigrants Did Not Get Most Jobs

Government data show employment grew more while Joe Biden was president than under Donald Trump and most jobs went to U.S.-born workers.

www.forbes.com

 

[TyWebbIU]

For first two months of the year

January’s planned reductions brought the total through the first two months of the year to 221,812, also the highest for the period since 2009 and up 33% from the same time in 2024.

U.S. employers announced 172,017 layoffs for February, up 245% from January and the highest monthly count since July 2020, Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/layoff-announcements-soar-to-the-highest-since-2020-as-doge-slashes-federal-staff-.html

Lifesaving surgery is never painless. And recovery from said surgery takes time.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

That's not remotely true.

It amazes me that some people believe something that is ridiculous on its face. There's just no desire to verify "facts" for many.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

It amazes me that some people believe something that is ridiculous on its face. There's just no desire to verify "facts" for many.

Yeah, it's not even just technically wrong. It's blatantly absurd. I can't fathom how anyone would read that and not instantly recognize it.

FTR, under Biden, the workforce grew by 17 million jobs. 200K of them were federal government jobs. In fact, the federal workforce actually grew more slowly (7%) than the overall workforce (12%).

 

[outside shooter]

bailey777:

 

[BCCHoosier]

It amazes me that some people believe something that is ridiculous on its face. There's just no desire to verify "facts" for many.

This is the kind of crap that makes me wonder why any of us bother posting here.

Guys like Googly, Ty, and Bailey live in some alternate universe. Plus I don't think they care about being truthful.

 

[UncleMark]

Yeah, it's not even just technically wrong. It's blatantly absurd. I can't fathom how anyone would read that and not instantly recognize it.

FTR, under Biden, the workforce grew by 17 million jobs. 200K of them were federal government jobs. In fact, the federal workforce actually grew more slowly (7%) than the overall workforce (12%).

To be fair, a number of the Biden jobs were rebound jobs after Covid. But yeah, bailly is still a moron.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

This is the kind of crap that makes me wonder why any of us bother posting here.

Guys like Googly, Ty, and Bailey live in some alternate universe. Plus I don't think they care about being truthful.

Hey sh!t for brains, I’m always truthful. You don’t like my opinions, so be it. Don’t accuse me of spreading falsehoods, when I’m much better informed than yourself and your boyfriends in this thread.

 

[TyWebbIU]

This is the kind of crap that makes me wonder why any of us bother posting here.

Guys like Googly, Ty, and Bailey live in some alternate universe. Plus I don't think they care about being truthful.

Couldn’t agree with this sentiment more.

Only it’s because of the likes of aloha, outside shooter and you.

It is pointless. But sometimes fun

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Hey sh!t for brains, I’m always truthful. You don’t like my opinions, so be it. Don’t accuse me of spreading falsehoods, when I’m much better informed than yourself and your boyfriends in this thread.

You think 200K is a "significant" portion of 17M? I mean, you have a right to that opinion, but I think most would disagree.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

To be fair, a number of the Biden jobs were rebound jobs after Covid. But yeah, bailly is still a moron.

Absolutely. Plenty of grounds to not give Biden all that credit. But "they were all government jobs" isn't one of them.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

You think 200K is a "significant" portion of 17M? I mean, you have a right to that opinion, but I think most would disagree.

Is said “government” not federal government.

Biden Administration Job Growth Numbers Are Subsidized By Record Numbers Of Government Jobs — 25% of New Jobs Are In Government

In 2023, the U.S. job market experienced a trend where nearly 25% of all job gains were attributed to government positions, underscoring a significant reliance on public sector employment to sustain economic growth. This development is particularly striking given the broader context of a...

finance.yahoo.com

Why can’t you guys be truthful? It’s like you live in some alternate universe.

 

[iuwclurker]

When Trump can’t get laid, he lays off.

Kind of makes you wonder if he’s gotten any since he spawned Barron.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Is said “government” not federal government.

Biden Administration Job Growth Numbers Are Subsidized By Record Numbers Of Government Jobs — 25% of New Jobs Are In Government

In 2023, the U.S. job market experienced a trend where nearly 25% of all job gains were attributed to government positions, underscoring a significant reliance on public sector employment to sustain economic growth. This development is particularly striking given the broader context of a...

finance.yahoo.com

Why can’t you guys be truthful? It’s like you live in some alternate universe.

Please. You made the comment in the context of Trump's layoffs, so you were clearly thinking of federal jobs. Then you try to change direction by offering the weak sauce of a single cherry-picked year? Take that shit to the kids table.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Been interesting reading this thread. Shows the difference in mentality and perspective between government lifers and its perception and that of a young Kelley executive operating at a fortune 25 corporation and all that attends: production, competition, laser focused on the bottom line, cut throat path to the top

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Couldn’t agree with this sentiment more.

Only it’s because of the likes of aloha, outside shooter and you.

It is pointless. But sometimes fun

Hey, you dishonorable POS, I not only have no desire to converse with you, I expect you not to mention me. I don’t want any association with you at all.

 

[outside shooter]

You think 200K is a "significant" portion of 17M? I mean, you have a right to that opinion, but I think most would disagree.

200K is practically all of 17M, if Trump or Elon says so.

 

[twenty02]

Been interesting reading this thread. Shows the difference in mentality and perspective between government lifers and its perception and that of a young Kelley executive operating at a fortune 25 corporation and all that attends: production, competition, laser focused on the bottom line, cut throat path to the top

Well when I was out Kelley they still taught that

GDP = C + I + G + NX

 

[outside shooter]

Why can’t you guys be truthful? It’s like you live in some alternate universe.

OK, giving you the benefit of the doubt on that article's 25% figure,

Is nearly 25 "practically all" of 100? Or not?

Math is hard for some, but not THAT hard.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Well when I was out Kelley they still taught that

GDP = C + I + G + NX

This Kelley grad also worked as a Chief Operations Officer for 12 years in the civilian world after retiring from the Navy. Kelly was just called the IU Business School at the time.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Please. You made the comment in the context of Trump's layoffs, so you were clearly thinking of federal jobs. Then you try to change direction by offering the weak sauce of a single cherry-picked year? Take that shit to the kids table.

What a little worm you are. You make false assumptions about what I posted and try to pin it on me being dishonest.

I’ve shared that same article previously. My statement was fully cognizant of state and local government jobs numbers being contributory.

Kick rocks.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Well when I was out Kelley they still taught that

GDP = C + I + G + NX

I can only imagine what that Kelley must be like. Movers and shakers

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

OK, giving you the benefit of the doubt on that article's 25% figure,

Is nearly 25 "practically all" of 100? Or not?

Math is hard for some, but not THAT hard.

Take it up with the person that said “practically all” old man.