More Progressive That's The Ticket
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A handsome gent on here has been telling you for a couple years now the left is a bunch of socialists and communists.
David Hogg, DNC vice chair, to spend big to take down safe Democratic incumbents
David Hogg, a controversial Democratic National Committee vice chair, is pledging to upend Democratic primaries by funding candidates who will challenge “ineffective, asleep-at-the-wheel” Democrats.The move puts Hogg, the now 25-year-old who first gained national stature as an outspoken survivor of the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, on a collision course with his own party and some Democratic House members.
Leaders We Deserve, which Hogg co-founded in 2023, announced plans on Tuesday to spend $20 million in safe-blue Democratic primaries against sitting House members by supporting younger opponents.
Which is a good thing?
I agree with maintaining global hegemony and ensuring sea lanes.
But maybe we don’t have to go into Iraq or Libya or Ukraine or Syria.
Maybe it costs us more than we gain. Maybe the outcomes of our intervention rarely work our in our favor.
I have no problem bombing people that will launch missiles at commercial ships in the Red Sea. I have no problem with a short term ground intervention.
I have a problem with trying to bring Western Democracy to Yemen at the barrel of American guns.
You're one of them. Even with MAGA being mostly against supporting Ukraine, most Republicans still support Ukraine. That won't last since the President is giving every indication that he favors Russia over Ukraine and that's not in our favor.
I don’t favor Ukraine. Or Russia
I favor an agreement that ensures Russia that UKR wont be used as a base of military operations. So we can stay out of it.
Can we name a U.S. Intervention that has worked in the last 30 years?
Kosovo? Maybe?
How does raising tariffs to 100+% and trying to isolate China from the rest of the world favor Russia over Ukraine?
How is hurting Russia's largest economic partner unrelated to your claim that everything Trump does favors Ukraine over Russia? It's obvious tariffs on China hurts Russia more than Ukraine. Trump's team knows that as well.
I would disagree in that they need to be made solvent long term. That doesn't solely mean cuts. It could mean lifting the cap on wages. Or a variety other solutions. Am with you firmly in somebody standing up and not lying to the American public but just being honest in a "we're all in this together and we have to fix it" kind of way. Regardless of party.
I guess it's the Dems turn to eat their own.
Great. This guy can **** off. Seriously. Greta Thunberg levels of delusion relative to their wisdom to speak on anything.
It’s meant to be a safety net (if you believe in it).
Not a retirement program. Americans don’t want to see elderly people dying in the streets.
Fair enough. I disagree. You die because of poor financial decisions usually.
The answer is to cut benefits.
You disagree as in you want to see elderly people dying in the streets?
Yes. If their decisions lead them there.
We already see them Brad, just in another form.
The belief that that your Gov Check will help you. Nonsense for the most part.
It helps a lot of people.
I don't believe you want that, by the way. You're too Catholic.
There is no limiting principle to your thought process. Who is the deserving person down on their luck and who is the lazy scammer?
No way tell which is why government policy should always tend towards the employed.
Well SS is based on the top 35 yrs of earnings, soooooo there does seem to be a way to differentiate laziness/scamming from down on their luck seniors.
as to SSDI, we can agree it has major fraud issues. I'm willing to discuss increased sentencing for entitlement fraud and abuse.
A poll of whether a person identifies with MAGA has nothing to do with how you are misremembering the primaries. Bruh...that didn't happen...check primary by primary near the bottom of the page. Polling is one thing, actual vote counts is the proof in the pudding.
2024 Republican Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
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SocialistI think this is telling.
Ocasio-Cortez leads poll of Democrats on which leader ‘best reflects’ party’s ‘core values’
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) narrowly leads in a poll of Democrats on which political leader “best reflects” the “core values” of the party. In a CNN survey released Sunday, D…thehill.com
but she connects.
Like Trump, she doesn’t come across as a politician. In fact, even less so.
Socialists usually do. Their visions have always been appealing - and understandably so.
Media controls so much and the media loves her. That’s invaluable
This made me giggle. It's not a knock against you, crazed, but I'm sure you've never spent much time around real socialists.
Here's a pic of the typical kind you'll see in real life. Connecting isn't something they're very familiar with:
Hogg might energize the youth vote but will also an easy target for the RNP spin apparatus.
They took down Hillary, failed with Obama, are doing their damnedest with AOC. Time will tell.
I’m thinking more about the politicians and their standard messaging.
There’s a reason that many, many electorates have elected socialist politicians.
I know.
I was just giggling at that because I was talking about the group I linked just yesterday. They ran a smear campaign against a guy running for our local school board here. I looked them up and thought "yep, that group could be the IU Democratic Socialists of 1994. Same look."
I think the Dems would be very well-served to nominate either Shapiro, Whitmer, or Beshear.
I have to wonder if some would be hesitant to support a woman for the 3rd time in 4 cycles, given that the previous two lost. I don’t think they should - Whitmer would be a better candidate than HRC or Kamala was. But some people think that way.
I wouldn't say he's mistaken just yet. 100 days in. He's getting the chaos out of the way early. He's gambling the economy will take a short hit and then improve by mid-term elections.
He may be right. It's always darkest before th dawn.
I don't put much stock in what polls are saying about the Democratic primary for '28 at this point. Harris is still atop the polls because she just ran for president. AOC is on there because there is currently a void in any Democrat doing something meaningful in opposition to Trump (save for maybe Cory Booker). I'd be surprised if she's even in the early primaries, but but I highly doubt that she'd ever win the nomination. She'll be around Democratic politics for awhile - maybe in a way similar to Nancy Pelosi's career - but she'll never, ever be the Democratic nominee for president.
It's hard telling before the midterms, but my guess is that the next president/VP combo will be some combination of the three names you mentioned. I could see where Jared Polis might be in the mix.
The key to dems winning in 2028 which so far the are follwing to a T.
1. Keep pushing hard to have the El Salvador guy to be returned. Keep this issue front and center for the next year at least .
2. 100% fully back Harvard against Trump cutting off their funds for civil rights violations. This is sure to win over middle class and non college voters.
3. Keep the boys in girls sports as a top issue and defend it daily.
4. Trash Trump nonstop 24/7 and come up with no solutions of your own to benefit the middle and working class. Trump hate worked well in 2024 so triple down on it.
5. Keep calling trump a nazi, facist, racist, etc. It works very well.
6. Make sure to nominate someone like AOC.
If they follow this playbook they are assured victory 2028.
1. Keep pushing hard to have the El Salvador guy to be returned. Keep this issue front and center for the next year at least .
2. 100% fully back Harvard against Trump cutting off their funds for civil rights violations. This is sure to win over middle class and non college voters.
3. Keep the boys in girls sports as a top issue and defend it daily.
4. Trash Trump nonstop 24/7 and come up with no solutions of your own to benefit the middle and working class. Trump hate worked well in 2024 so triple down on it.
5. Keep calling trump a nazi, facist, racist, etc. It works very well.
6. Make sure to nominate someone like AOC.
If they follow this playbook they are assured victory 2028.
