If you survive it.
What is the known/expected duration of vaccine-induced immunity? If it is different, why?
We are losing about the same number as Antietam every day. Nothing to see here, move along.
Don't we have to assume 90 days? That means 4 vaccine cycles per year if we want to live without fear. A shot every 6 weeks. Forever.
Not necessarily. It may be longer than 90 for both, we do not have good data. Viruses tend to mutate toward less damaging, so that eventually gets it.
One more thing, immunity means one thing. It may be that we are not immune after 90 or however many days but our body still fights it much better. So instead of killing one it becomes a bad cold.
History will also treat harshly, and likely more so those who lied to us and told us it was a hoax when they knew how deadly it was. There is a difference with someone making a mistake about ever evolving viruses and people knowingly lying to the public.
Wasn’t the death toll in Antietam around 3500? Are you saying the excess deaths per day are around Antietam figures? That’s probably a more accurate way to look at it.
Probably. I think history will also (note that’s an “and” not an or) show that we completely mishandled it in many places with unnecessary intense lockdowns and unnecessary eliminations of personal freedoms. History will show how inept ALL of our leaders are on average.
CDC is overly conservative - which is fine with me. Journal pubs as of November think 5-7 months or likely longer.
Nope. I meant the leader who purposely lied to us.
Survivors of SARS 1 have retained their immunity. As usual, I will have to be optimistic enough for everyone.CDC is overly conservative - which is fine with me. Journal pubs as of November think 5-7 months or likely longer.
Orthogonal SARS-CoV-2 Serological Assays Enable Surveillance of Low-Prevalence Communities and Reveal Durable Humoral Immunity
Serological assays for SARS-CoV-2 exposures are challenging due to poor positive predictive values. Ripperger et al. show that the combinatorial use of spike receptor binding domain and S2 eliminates almost all false positives. This serological assay is used to show durable antibody production...www.cell.com
Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint (Published 2020)
Blood samples from recovered patients suggest a powerful, long-lasting immune response, researchers reported.www.nytimes.com
I feared such. And that’s why it’s hard to take you seriously. That’s the nicest way I can say it. Sorry.
CDC is overly conservative - which is fine with me. Journal pubs as of November think 5-7 months or likely longer.
Orthogonal SARS-CoV-2 Serological Assays Enable Surveillance of Low-Prevalence Communities and Reveal Durable Humoral Immunity
Serological assays for SARS-CoV-2 exposures are challenging due to poor positive predictive values. Ripperger et al. show that the combinatorial use of spike receptor binding domain and S2 eliminates almost all false positives. This serological assay is used to show durable antibody production...www.cell.com
Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint (Published 2020)
Blood samples from recovered patients suggest a powerful, long-lasting immune response, researchers reported.
Well, we know that reinfection is very rare.
Infection produces immunity? REALLY? Oh my f*cking God! Thank you for bringing us this breaking information from 1754!!!!
losangeles.cbslocal.com
LA County appears to be a disaster right now (well, more than it typically is). But you are correct, even here in Indiana the hospitals are slammed.... rooms are filled, and many relegated to hallways. But better than 6 hours sitting in an ambulance line:
EMTs Enduring Long Wait Times With Patients Outside Hospitals During Pandemic
EMTs say they are exhausted and scared as the pandemic continues on, putting more people in the hospital.
There's actually something to be said for loosening things up quickly as soon as the most vulnerable have been vaccinated and actually allowing a combination of vaccine induced immunity and natural immunity to be achieved.
Trumpers really are a special kind of dumb and that is the nicest way I can put it
Trump told Woodward he knew this thing was deadly, while telling the public it was no big deal. That's intentional. The WHO may have been incorrect in their early pronouncements, but I've not seen evidence they intentionally misled people.
