If Rice or Ballo left then even deeper disaster-anyone else…
The guess has to be MM with Cupps as long shot.
Might be time for the good ole "vote of confidence"
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The guess has to be MM with Cupps as long shot.
Will he be stopping at Taco Bell on his way out of town?
I was getting ready to post the exact same thing. If I’m Dolson and I legitimately wanted to fire Woody last year, there’s no way in hell I’d take any heat off Woody or Buckner or anyone else who pulled the power play on him. Screw every single one of them for perpetuating this garbage on us. Woodson has exhibited both a lack of class and integrity. Or any sense of self-awareness. So he won’t announce anything like that.
How about Dolson actually just tells the truth? “Our program isn’t anywhere close to where we want it to be. I’m not happy about any of it, but it will get fixed. There have been factors at play that have hindered our desired progress. Those will be addressed as well. Better days are coming. Stay strong Hoosier Nation!”
I read Cupps is headed for Dayton and MM is out of here after this year. Zero clue if it's true - but I saw it out there.
True, but I know the Wirtzes own the Blackhawks, the Reinsdorfs own the Bulls and White Sox and the McCaskeys own the Bears - oh my God is that a depressing sentence to write - and they rarely say anything.
Reasonable speculation but would guess they'll wait and see what happens with the coaching situation.
I might be way off, but aren't the Reinsdorfs and the McCaskeys both very involved in the daily decision making though, including hiring and firing of key personnel?
Towards the end of last season there were reports that literally everyone on that team was leaving. Trilly Donovan, whoever TF he is was saying even Galloway was going elsewhere. Who knows?
I will say that Mgbako has looked pretty detached for a while now. Watching him at the Miami O game and Woodson was really laying into him. At one point, Woodson pulled him from the game and he walked past the bench and headed up the tunnel. A couple players headed back there a couple minutes later and eventually, they came back to the bench. Just seemed like MM was pretty unhappy.
Hey at least we had some generational improvement when Dollar Bill kicked and Rocky took over. McCaskeys don't ever die so we're gonna suffer with that for eternity.
Woody needs to announce he is retiring at season’s end and encourage the IU fans to support the team the rest of the way. Lower the temperature, ease the tension and pressure on the players and salvage what you can of the season.
The only thing that really matter now is the coaching search
Buckner's probably watching the Pacers 24/7 and just getting updates on IU every week or two from Woodson
Many made that same call as a response to my post. And I admitted that was the "best" thing that could happen. I'm glad it finally did, a month or so later...
But be careful about gloating about your "calls"...you also said there would be player departure within a few weeks. And there hasn't been.
there is an injured player who will never play at Indiana again, sure that's not breaking news
No one has left the team. If Jakai or Gabe or Bryson, or whoever you're referring to were definitely "done" with IU, they would have left already. All 3 of them are on the bench, happily supporting their teammates...
Woodson done the right thing, free medical care, rehab and preserved a year of eligibility, if said player wants it down the road. leaving then would have been a mistake for the player.
I can see that being enough to keep a kid around in Jakai, Gabe's situation, through the end of this season...you're right. But unless they just don't like Bloomington, the new coach will have an opportunity to convince them to stay. And if I'm Jakai or Gabe, "admitting" or accepting that I'm not capable of playing at IU's level...ain't happening. 1)because I'm not wired that way, and I don't believe that 2)A bench role at IU might be better NIL money than a starter/main rotation role at 90% of the rest of college basketball.
The new coach will play a huge role in this decision. Meaning, you might have been right, but as soon as Woodson's retirement announcement was made, that "unmade" the decision for that player, I'm sure.
something I've been told was that Dolson has guaranteed anyone who wants to stay will be given the opportunity. now could they basically cut someone's NIL if Beard doesn't want them? possibly
Of all the things you've claimed, I'd put that one as the least chance of being real. Lots of holes in those statements.
If you're getting all your info from the same source, that last bit would do a fair bit of damage to their credibility...obviously unless and until it were proven to be true. Seems VERY far fetched though that Dolson would even think those things, let alone act on them.
not sure what you are saying. I'm saying Dolson has told the players they signed with IU and IU will honor their scholarship. no one will be asked to leave who wants to stay after the coaching change. that is 100 percent fact
I don't believe that to be 100 percent fact.
You might believe that. But I put the odds at slightly above 0, that Dolson would tell Beard, that he HAS to keep 8 kids on the current roster if they all want to stay. At MOST, he might make a loose reference of the IU Bill of Rights if there were any players that pushed him on it. But in reality, unless players were pushing him on it (they weren't I'm sure), he wouldn't offer up something like that, right now.
no one will lose their scholarship due to a coaching change, that's what they were told. use MM for an example he's getting close to a million. Beard watches tape of him meets with him and decides he's a poor fit. what do you think will happen?
Are you talking about on the team or just in school? Because if it's on the team, Dolson should have nothing to do with that.
I think none of them were told that, is what I think. That's cutting the legs out from your new coach. Very, very unlikely Dolson would do that, even with our Bill of Rights thing.
I don't think he'd even mention it until players came to him about it, if then. "Thanks for coming to me on this. Obviously you'll need to meet the new coach, and both of you get to know each other before a decision is made." That's probably even more than Dolson would say to a player if they came to him.
Now I'm worried you're making all this up. Yikes.
It would not surprise me to see Mgbako leave to prepare for the combine. I'm sure he thinks his draft stock is suffering from lack of production and subsequent playing time. I'm not sure it benefits anyone else. I do think some of current roster with eligibility will test the waters or enter the portal. It will be up to Beard to choose whether or not to re-recruit them. I doubt there will be an instance he has to Crean anyone.
I still have faith in Rice and Tucker and hope for Carlyle. Put a solid stretch 4 with them and an imposing 5 you never know how that could work if coached up.
I still have faith in Rice and Tucker and hope for Carlyle. Put a solid stretch 4 with them and an imposing 5 you never know how that could work if coached up.
I'm saying if you are a current basketball player at IU your scholarship will be honored if you have eligibility left, does that mean they are guaranteed a spot on the team, that I don't know
That's a different matter. Totally fine for him to promise a player "you can stay at IU and finish your degree" but promising they can stay on the team would be way out of bounds I would think.
Edit: and to add, I agree that not many players would take that option vs. transferring to a school where they can play.
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maybe we are missing each other on the semantics here. their scholarships will be honored if they want to stay. now does that mean they will be on the roster, possibly not, I guess. it's really much to about nothing. most of the time you see a clean house take place, and I suspect that's what's going to happen. kids have so many options I don't see anyone wanting to stay who's not wanted.
Gotcha... I guess I never gave the actual full Bill of Rights benefits much thought. My bad. I was associating with spot on the roster...
Sisley is better than people think. I think he’s going to be an amazing stretch 4!
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