No, I’m not. I’m not saying everybody was better. I’m saying MJ would still be a Top 10 player today. You and Goat are being ridiculous.
When did top 10 get mentioned? I have said he still might be the best but probably not. I have made no claims against him not being one of the best. In fact I think I said he would probably be a perpetual all-star.
Maybe, but no way they could figure out a Bluetooth speaker in their bathroom.
That’s not the question. The question is more like if you had MJ’s soul and spirit in a husk of today’s player would he be the best. I can’t formulate an argument that gets to “no.”
The game has certainly changed. It was more entertaining when it wasn’t all dunks or 3’s. If MJ had any struggle to today’s game it would be his need to catch up to the long range game - much like Lebron has had to adjust in the back part of his career.
It was 100% in his dome. Nobody in the history of sports wanted to win more than him. To a fault.
The argument of LeBron vs Jordan isn’t a one on one comparison. That would be silly. LeBron would bully Jordan in one on one.
That was Marvin's thought experiment, but not what I was responding to. It was McM saying you could just time travel MJ from 91 to today and he'd still be the best.
Look at what he did at Augusta in ‘65. He hit short irons into the par 4s and was able to reach the par 5s with irons. Playing with persimmon and inferior irons and golf balls.
And then they would just come here and Brad, but no one else, would help them out.
You said he would have "no chance" didn't you?
I disagree. I think the question is: transport Jordan in his prime in a time machine to today's game. Is he still the best player in the league? A dominant player? Top 30-50?
Not very often. Clearly. I’ve had some doozies.
Jordan is still the best and Kobe was better than LeBron. These sports aren't pure athletic feats like racing and swimming. There are other components that go into them. The best athletes don't always make the best players.
This is s*****, isn’t it? Just had to ruin a good thread by injecting s*****.
Actually, we should be asking these questions of Marv about another sport near and dear to his heart.
Just crackers. No booze. Nothin else. Crackers. They haven’t lost at d & d in 39 yearsActually, we should be asking these questions of Marv about another sport near and dear to his heart.
Does today's training and development lead to these people:
being better at D&D than these guys?
The obvious answer: **** no.
Juan Sebastian veron with the archangel. I love how you and Marv don’t think they’d dominate today. So dumb.
Maybe as the fashioned-deprived.Juan Sebastian veron with the archangel. I love how you and Marv don’t think they’d dominate today. So dumb.
You don’t think the snarling dog could play today 🤣🤣🤣🤡. A man who choked opposing coaches during the match? Bwahahahaha stop
Isn’t it against the rules to use your hands?You don’t think the snarling dog could play today 🤣🤣🤣🤡. A man who choked opposing coaches during the match? Bwahahahaha stop
Crackers eating crackers. Level 69 wizardry.Actually, we should be asking these questions of Marv about another sport near and dear to his heart.
Does today's training and development lead to these people:
being better at D&D than these guys?
The obvious answer: **** no.
To be fair, soccer is a bit different as the athletic component, while important, takes a distant 2nd place to skill.
He is a giant POS though.You don’t think the snarling dog could play today 🤣🤣🤣🤡. A man who choked opposing coaches during the match? Bwahahahaha stop
Sadly it does. People today are much better looking at how things relate. "If I take X spell and Y feat, I can wipe out 20 of any opponent." Granted, we did not have feats in our version but the idea holds.Actually, we should be asking these questions of Marv about another sport near and dear to his heart.
Does today's training and development lead to these people:
being better at D&D than these guys?
The obvious answer: **** no.
These pics are great in so many ways. In the top one, they are sitting at a Basque Dining Table and chairs from Crate & Barrel. How do I know? I own the very same set. Believe it came out in the early 2000s. We bought ours for our first house.Actually, we should be asking these questions of Marv about another sport near and dear to his heart.
Does today's training and development lead to these people:
being better at D&D than these guys?
The obvious answer: **** no.
The cult of Kobe has to stop. He was incredible, but I saw him up close for two decades and I don't think he's a Top 5 player.
well said. It explains how you can pull a philosopher from a coffee shop and drop him in the middle of a field and he’ll take it over.
