I know he left but he's an IU grad and a really good guy so congrats to him and his family.
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While I wish the guy no ill will and appreciate the years he did play for us I have a hard time forgetting that he took off and left his teammates high and dry.
Those two freshmen who had their red shirts burnt and their postions switched (both are now back at RB and WR respectively) might not be so charitably forgiving...they wasted a year on the wrong side of the ball and one got hurt in the process.
If he'd stuck around we might have won the Rutgers and MIchigan games.
Add that BS reason of why he was transferring (to get into a Physical Therapy Graduate School program) and I'm pretty well soured on the guy.
How's that grad school program working out for him? Did Ok$t even offer that program?? What did he actually end up taking there?
So list me under: Who Cares?
If he was such a great guy he would have stuck with his teammates in my opinion.
Those two freshmen who had their red shirts burnt and their postions switched (both are now back at RB and WR respectively) might not be so charitably forgiving...they wasted a year on the wrong side of the ball and one got hurt in the process.
If he'd stuck around we might have won the Rutgers and MIchigan games.
Add that BS reason of why he was transferring (to get into a Physical Therapy Graduate School program) and I'm pretty well soured on the guy.
How's that grad school program working out for him? Did Ok$t even offer that program?? What did he actually end up taking there?
So list me under: Who Cares?
If he was such a great guy he would have stuck with his teammates in my opinion.
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Well that was how I felt until he gave the bogus reason as to why he was moving on. Couple that with the obvious hole he left in the defense. I mean it wasn't like he wouldn't have started.
Ordinarily I'd agree with your reasoning and have the same sentiment but in this case it just appeared to me like he was just trying to screw a coach or multiple coaches without any thought as to how it would affect his teammates.
Now I could be completely wrong. I only know what I've read. ///and having given it ten minutes worth of thought /// he accidentally did us a favor: Without his less than honest move we wouldn't have ended up with Coach Allen, who might just be one of the keys to getting us headed where we want to go W-Lwise. So..., a backhanded "thanks, sort of, I guess; to our former player M Hunter (but I still think his approach was wrong).
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I don't quite understand the complaining about Hunter???
We have so many holier than thou fans that say, it's about being a "student" athlete and to get a degree, that's what is really important, well.....that's what he did, he got a degree and graduated and now we have people complaining about him not sticking around longer to play ball?? He did well, moved on and is in a new chapter of his life, can't we be happy for an IU grad?
We have so many holier than thou fans that say, it's about being a "student" athlete and to get a degree, that's what is really important, well.....that's what he did, he got a degree and graduated and now we have people complaining about him not sticking around longer to play ball?? He did well, moved on and is in a new chapter of his life, can't we be happy for an IU grad?For me,at least, it didn't seem that simple.
Originally, when I read about his leaving, the story from him was that he was moving back closer to home to pursue a graduate degree and that he was done with football.
I'm thinking well that's a big loss but good for him it's all about moving on after football and pursuing further education.
When the story later evolved into he just decided to play for another team that's when he lost me as a fan (I'm certain he's devastated).
Now I contrast that with Dan Feeney's decision.
At any rate, it looks like it ended well for all concerned.
My opinion is just that: my opinion. I'm very old school. Team first. That's a nearly extinct approach in this day and age. (I understand the "he's a graduate with the freedom to go wherever argument although I think the whole free agent deal has gotten way beyond the intent of the rule {most of these grad transfers have zip to do with further education} ).
Originally, when I read about his leaving, the story from him was that he was moving back closer to home to pursue a graduate degree and that he was done with football.
I'm thinking well that's a big loss but good for him it's all about moving on after football and pursuing further education.
When the story later evolved into he just decided to play for another team that's when he lost me as a fan (I'm certain he's devastated).
Now I contrast that with Dan Feeney's decision.
At any rate, it looks like it ended well for all concerned.
My opinion is just that: my opinion. I'm very old school. Team first. That's a nearly extinct approach in this day and age. (I understand the "he's a graduate with the freedom to go wherever argument although I think the whole free agent deal has gotten way beyond the intent of the rule {most of these grad transfers have zip to do with further education} ).
I don't wish him any ill will, but he falls into the Mark Hagen category to me - just a gun for hire.
Hagen, an IU grad and former player, negatively recruited against IU while a coach at PU. He comes back to coach here and then kicks us in the teeth again. I wouldn't trust him any farther than I could throw him.
So, if they both succeed, fine. But I don't root for them because, when it came right down to it, they left IU in the dust without a second thought. Remember - Hunter originally said he was just done with football. What a joke.
And don't kid yourself - Hagen will be gone as soon as he gets another opportunity.
Purdue wasn't a move up. And IU was willing to match his salary at A&M
It's not like USC was courting him.
MH finally has the pu stench off of him. I'm glad he's back myself. Another guy who can really coach and recruit is a good thing in my opinion.
A couple more thoughts about Hagan - or any coach. It makes sense for coaches to move around every few years to experience different systems, philosophies, opponents, etc. Even in school students considering grad school are encouraged to go to a different university than their undergrad experience.
I was just stating facts. What did I say that isn't true?
I hope he succeeds - here. But I don't really have much love for him, that's all. I forgave him for going to PU when he came back to IU. But when he left for A&M when we were offering the same money..... well, he's no more to me than any other mercenary coach.
Hey, different strokes.....
You sure about that? And you know, I'm sure, that he went to A&M with Wilson's full blessing, right? And that Purdue was a significant upgrade over IU when he went there, right? The fact is you have no idea what you're talking about concerning Hagen.
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To be fair, I do not believe Williams lost his redshirt b/c of MH leaving. He started the year as a RB and I'm 99% sure had already played on ST as a KR before he was even moved. He was moved after the season started b/c it was obvious we needed more talent at CB.
I'm less sure about Thornton but I thought he had gotten a few snaps at WR. I would be surprised if the staff was planning to RS him.
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