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McCollum Interview

Indiana already has all of that at much higher level than Drake, so if that's your argument he should be able to succeed here too
Yes we do. What is also present here is the steam cooker. The one which broiled Archie to a crisp.

BM should be able to succeed here and if he's the guy I certainly hope that he does. My point is that Dolson would be taking a substantially larger risk with BM than a proven D1 coach.

I would love for Stevens, Few, Donovan to take the job. I agree that the chances of any of those are slim. Really slim.
 
Yes we do. What is also present here is the steam cooker. The one which broiled Archie to a crisp.

BM should be able to succeed here and if he's the guy I certainly hope that he does. My point is that Dolson would be taking a substantially larger risk with BM than a proven D1 coac
I would love for Stevens, Few, Donovan to take the job. I agree that the chances of any of those are slim. Really slim.

"Proven" to do what? Get to a Final Four once in a career? Win the conference once in a while? Those "proven" coaches are a dime a dozen.
 
Yes we do. What is also present here is the steam cooker. The one which broiled Archie to a crisp.

BM should be able to succeed here and if he's the guy I certainly hope that he does. My point is that Dolson would be taking a substantially larger risk with BM than a proven D1 coach.

I would love for Stevens, Few, Donovan to take the job. I agree that the chances of any of those are slim. Really slim.
Hard to say if he would or would not he has no P5 experience we can look at and say he can handle a fishbowl. It really is just a guess just like it was with archie. I get everyone is in love with his D2 championships but it is a massive jump to a job like Indiana.
 
Hard to say if he would or would not he has no P5 experience we can look at and say he can handle a fishbowl. It really is just a guess just like it was with archie. I get everyone is in love with his D2 championships but it is a massive jump to a job like Indiana.
A job like Indiana hasn't been a job like Indiana for a very long time.
 
The guy coaching SMU now.....Andy Enfield.....a few years ago HE was the McCullum of the college bball world. What did he do at USC??? Now he's at SMU?? Not saying BM would end up following in the same path, but we see this over and over. The flavor of the month. Archie was INDEED the flavor of the month that year. I would get behind a BM hire, but it sure is a risk.
Please explain how this resume https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/andy-enfield-1.html is remotely the same as this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_McCollum
 
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I'm not bagging on McCullum but the fact is, he hasn't done it in D1 with the exception of this year. One could easily make a sensible argument that DeVries had him set up for this year's success. The guy might turn out to be dynamite at the D1 level but it's big risk. We see it almost every single year. I acknowledge his dominance at D2 but at IU he would be in a big-time spotlight and in a whole different situation than what he's in now. Risk, plain and simple.

There were several schools after Enfield. He was considered the next "basketball genius" by many and he had his pick amongst several prominent D1 offers.

I hoot a little bit about Brownell, although I think McDermott is actually a better candidate when you consider the longevity of his success. I think Shaka Smart and Chris Collins both would be "less risky" than BM.
If you want a repeat of Crean, go ahead and hire Brownell, McDermott, Collins or Smart.
McDermott was fired from Iowa State after never having a winning season. If you like having seasons with double digit losses regularly, sure hire that guy.
 
If you want a repeat of Crean, go ahead and hire Brownell, McDermott, Collins or Smart.
McDermott was fired from Iowa State after never having a winning season. If you like having seasons with double digit losses regularly, sure hire that guy.
I think mcdermott could go well here but not bronwell. Its possible mccollum could be good but we have no idea he could be a complete bust. I hope its someone else not even being mentioned honestly.
 
If you want a repeat of Crean, go ahead and hire Brownell, McDermott, Collins or Smart.
McDermott was fired from Iowa State after never having a winning season. If you like having seasons with double digit losses regularly, sure hire that guy.
He's had a lot more success at Creighton. Not sure why that is, but most peeps get better at their jobs with more experience. Sometimes just a change of scenery is a big piece of the puzzle.
 
Comparing apples and oranges there a little bit. Nothing in the first link in regards to AE experience before his stint as a head coach at a small D1 school. So basically it is ignoring his time spent in the NBA as an assistant, or the time he spent at FSU, which some people COULD value more than a stellar D2 record.

Comparing the data on both of those entries more or less highlights what I'm trying to say. McCullum was obviously a standout coach on the D2 level. He has ONE year at D1 at DRAKE. That makes him somewhat of a high risk D1 P5 hire, just like AE was. While AE has not been a total washout by any means, I don't think his results at USC and SMU are what most IU fans are hoping for.

I can easily see McCullum having a career that parallels Steve Alford, AE or even Archie. He might be much more successful but he would be FAR from the only one who couldn't make the jump, if he doesn't.
 
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"Proven" to do what? Get to a Final Four once in a career? Win the conference once in a while? Those "proven" coaches are a dime a dozen.
In the context of this discussion, I would define "proven" as a coach who has demonstrated that he can recruit and compete, and has done so for many years (not one, not two, not even several) at a P5 D1 school. Maybe some of those coaches haven't achieved the success at those schools that we desire at IU, but Dolson is going to have to extrapolate their past achievements/qualifications into our current situation to decide if the candidate is a worthy hire.

It's guess work. My point is that a coach who hasn't been able to prove that on a D1 level is more of a risk than the ones who have.

I wish McCullom had another year under his belt at Drake and maybe a couple of years at a Washington or New Mexico.

I also wish Chris Beard didn't have that ugly night in Texas in his past.

I also wish that Brad Stevens' wife really wanted to move back to Indiana.

We can wish all we want, but the truth is, BM is a pretty decent risk at this point.
 
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In the context of this discussion, I would define "proven" as a coach who has demonstrated that he can recruit and compete, and has done so for many years (not one, not two, not even several) at a P5 D1 school. Maybe some of those coaches haven't achieved the success at those schools that we desire at IU, but Dolson is going to have to extrapolate their past achievements/qualifications into our current situation to decide if the candidate is a worthy hire.

It's guess work. My point is that a coach who hasn't been able to prove that on a D1 level is more of a risk than the ones who have.

I wish McCullom had another year under his belt at Drake and maybe a couple of years at a Washington or New Mexico.

I also wish Chris Beard didn't have that ugly night in Texas in his past.

I also wish that Brad Stevens' wife really wanted to move back to Indiana.

We can wish all we want, but the truth is, BM is a pretty decent risk at this point.
The coaches who meet your critera are not looking for a new job, other than perhaps Beard. We don't even know that McCullum is.
 
Once bit and twice shy baby.
There is one post on there that is interesting. Says a source close to an AD at another school told him McC or BB would do well at IU but the AD thinks IU has had BS locked up for some time. Then said either May or Masshole. Not buying any of it. If any that becomes true I may ask Dolson to marry me.
 
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There is one post on there that is interesting. Says a source close to an AD at another school told him McC or BB would do well at IU but the AD thinks IU has had BS locked up for some time. Then said either May or Masshole. Not buying any of it. If any that becomes true I may ask Dolson to marry me.
Some of the Butler guys I run with were saying Stevens a month+ ago. Kind of cooled on it in the last few weeks.
 
Can you imagine someone at IU, that truly has that ability and that approach? We'd literally have rosters chalked full of Victor Olidiopos, every year. It wouldn't be some sort of diamond in the rough accidental luck...

Maybe Brownell carries some of these similar philosophies, and it just hasn't translated to P4 basketball until the last couple years...because he's been in a tough spot at Clemson, in the ACC? But I kinda doubt it. 12+ years for someones philosophy and approach to finally take root, and show successes...I don't know man... doesn't seem like something overly reliable.
I’ll give Crean this…the man had an eye for talent. I believe Crean was a better-than-decent bball coach. The biggest knock I ever heard on Crean was that he wore his teams out with ridiculous practices.
 
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In the context of this discussion, I would define "proven" as a coach who has demonstrated that he can recruit and compete, and has done so for many years (not one, not two, not even several) at a P5 D1 school. Maybe some of those coaches haven't achieved the success at those schools that we desire at IU, but Dolson is going to have to extrapolate their past achievements/qualifications into our current situation to decide if the candidate is a worthy hire.

It's guess work. My point is that a coach who hasn't been able to prove that on a D1 level is more of a risk than the ones who have.

I wish McCullom had another year under his belt at Drake and maybe a couple of years at a Washington or New Mexico.

I also wish Chris Beard didn't have that ugly night in Texas in his past.

I also wish that Brad Stevens' wife really wanted to move back to Indiana.

We can wish all we want, but the truth is, BM is a pretty decent risk at this point.
I’d be interested in seeing what McCollum could do with burger boys and top 50-75 talent. He’d get those at IU. Every coach at IU gets those. RMK, Davis, Sampson, Crean, Archie & Woody…They all got McDonald’s and top 50-75 players. Won’t be any different with whoever we hire. Whoever we get will absolutely have talent on par with anyone else in the conference. It’s a matter of coaching and I believe McCollum can coach.
 
I’d be interested in seeing what McCollum could do with burger boys and top 50-75 talent. He’d get those at IU. Every coach at IU gets those. RMK, Davis, Sampson, Crean, Archie & Woody…They all got McDonald’s and top 50-75 players. Won’t be any different with whoever we hire. Whoever we get will absolutely have talent on par with anyone else in the conference. It’s a matter of coaching and I believe McCollum can coach.
Archie got two big time high school recruits in four seasons. Two. He was way out of his league recruiting top talent.
 
Archie got two big time high school recruits in four seasons. Two. He was way out of his league recruiting top talent.
Well, he got three consecutive classes with 5* & 4* players. Romeo, TJD & Lander were all 5*. Although Lander was grossly overrated as a 5* and Romeo was hurt the entire time. Also, Archie’s second class with Romeo had Jerome Hunter, who was a very highly regarded top 50ish player but never got to play due to health issues. Archie’s main problem wasn’t talent or injuries…Archie isn’t a very good coach and I don’t believe he was good evaluator of the type of player/talent he needed for his style.

Point is, Archie got top 25 and top 50-100 players. All that despite being “out of his league” as you say (and I agree with that). Whoever comes here will get talent. It’s a matter of coaching/development and eyeing the right talent for your needs.
 
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