So who’s gonna give me a new roof and clean my hotel room? Sure as shit isn’t going to be someone from the ghetto or trailer park.
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So who’s gonna give me a new roof and clean my hotel room? Sure as shit isn’t going to be someone from the ghetto or trailer park.
I don't think most here are complaining about those issues here, especially the first one. I see the real argument centered on American businesses using H1b program as a way to bring in cheaper labor to replace existing workers ala that CBS piece.
Now do it on wealth. Thanks libs?Communism is a radical leftist ideology. How does Russia compare with other countries in
Europe? It certainly has cultural and socioeconomic differences.
Also, are you not aware of the significant differences in birth rates based on ideology and/or political affiliation?
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You can do it yourself or pay more for it. Importing a bunch of Haitians to change your sheets for 10 dollars is stupid when we’re going to end up paying more for their food, shelter, and kids education. I’d rather just pay Ricky Bobby or Jerome more money to do those jobs. And if they still won’t work? Cut welfare benefits.
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Can't speak for the ghetto. Can for the trailer park--you're wrong. Many people living in them work, and yes, they probably work those types of jobs that the upper crust insist no American would ever demean himself to do.
That's supposed to be illegal. You're supposed to have to prove that the job you're filling is going unfilled because you can't find anyone to do it. Enforce that and those examples go away. If it's because the function is outsourced to another company, that's a different issue.
Who's going to enforce it? We going to beef up the DoJ? Immigration services? How much will that cost? Will Republicans vote to enlarge those departments? Even if so, will Big Corps still do cost/benefit analysis and use evil lawyers to still do it and think of ways around the system?
Communism is a radical leftist ideology. How does Russia compare with other countries in
Europe? It certainly has cultural and socioeconomic differences.
Also, are you not aware of the significant differences in birth rates based on ideology and/or political affiliation?
The Trump Bump: The Republican Fertility Advantage in 2024
After the 2020 election, IFS published an article arguing that there was a “conservative fertility advantage,” basically, that conservatives have more babies than liberals. That fact appears to have become even more true in 2024.
Russia is far more fascist than communist. Communism was the removal of classes and worker ownership of the means of production. But Russia has a different model. Sure, government partly owns. But that existed in Germany. But wealthy individuals take control and make huge profits. Oligarchs. Much closer to Germany and Italy. Oligarchs are not to exist in communism. It has been learned that allowing oligarchs allows much deeper loyalty to the leader than having a simple government bureaucrat.
Plus communism was the elimination of nationalism, workers of the world unite. A worker's true brother was another worker no matter where in the world. Putin preaches nationalism, not an international brotherhood.
As to liberals having fewer children, don't we call that "freedom"? I don't care how many kids people have.
Fascism, as started by Mussolini, was a revolt against socialism and communism. The peasants, the workers, were the enemy. Mussolini was very pro industrialist, he did not realize how quickly the middle would love his message that the low paid workers were the problem.
Putin has no problem killing Russian peasants by the hundreds of thousands in Ukraine.
I have no problem with tax money going to enforcement of immigration (or any) laws. That's one of the few things that they're actually supposed to do.
To say that we shouldn't even bother because of lawyers and loopholes is a bit disingenuous isn't it?
Yea that's what actual Einstein visas or citizenship is for. Real geniuses. That's the .0001% of H1B folks.
You give the low wage workers work visas with no conversion rights to permanent residency and delete birthright citizenship.
I don't see any issues with the plummeting birthrate because automation and robots will solve that.
The rejection rate is 90%+ which is quite telling. That's with coaching. The few actual political asylum seekers and journalists then wait in the backlog. How sad. if you are truly "endangered" seek asylum in the first safe country.
The more humans we have the more innovation that happens, which is just one issue from it. Plummeting birth rates will become a major problem if we don’t course correct. People need to put down screens, find a real chick, and have several f#cking children.
No.
Let me preface by saying that I think persons around the world generally have the government they deserve. The govt in some way shape or form generally reflects the society. The #1 problem taking down this country is legalized corruption. I would like to see a tough figure like Nixon or McCarthy focused solely on corruption. Change the laws and start locking people up.
Trump Admin 1 solved the H1B problem, but they intentionally waited until the 11th hour so the clock ran out on the proposed rule. The simple way to stop the garbage is by putting a minimum wage. If the 75% median salary for that position is 150k. Make the company pay the H1Ber 150k*1.5 or 1.75. that's how prove there is a legitimate need. And not 150k*.5 or .25 like they are currently doing.
There is something far more insidious than H1B started under the Obama Admin. "Stem" OPT. 36 months post grad work rights. Employer pays no social security or Medicare tax. Then they find a way to get them H1B or another program. There are now hundreds of thousands of foreign students on OPT. Good luck to any recent American grad. It's a defacto university jobs program and a major money maker for anti-amrrican Universities. Programs where 95% of the students are foreign students. Pay your 50k per year tuition with a loan taken in India for work rights. Trump can end this on day 1 with one pen swipe. I expect nothing of the sort because too many elected and unelected officials are anti-american despite all the talk and rhetoric.
Last I checked the world is running out of resources? Future wars will be fought over water.
Well regulated legal good. Not all legal immigration is good. I think that even legal immigration is abused at the sake of American citizens.
It is important to make sure that corporations have a good environment to grow and thrive in this country
However, I think that the GOP has often times lead with the mistaken notion of what is good for Corporate America is good for America in general. We have conflated the cheap stuff we can buy for a "bargain" as an improvement. I don't know if we are getting the returns we need anymore. And importing a bunch of third worlders from places where they literally shit in the street to compete with American workers isn't awesome for us. Make companies pay a premium for those workers if they say no Americans are available. You want an H1B and can't find an American? Cool, the going rate for that position is X amount of dollars. You can pay an additional $X one time "finders fee" to let them in and then a 10% salary penalty that goes towards whatever stands in place of the current department of education to help increase the availability of American workers for those positions in the future. Globalism isn't itself bad, but I think you need to regulate it's excesses. Expecting people who grew up in houses and a certain standard of living to compete with people who shit in the streets and will live 10 people to a small apartment is a race to modern serfs.
The government shouldn't be dictating pay for anyone. They have no clue compared to people actually in the market.
Anecdotally, we have been squeezed by wages in India blowing up since Covid. We're now trying to forge relationships with near-shore providers in Lat-Am for lower cost resources. I had an Indian based team that got bounced out of a large multinational consumer tech manufacturer because our rates were too high. Procurement decided that rates were out of line and demanded we lower rates to a level that was under our loaded cost in most cases.
I have a great relationship with a couple of the leaders who are still there. They told me their release cadence has gone from 6 times/yr to twice/yr because the people they're getting from vendors are shit and don't have the appropriate skills. But they're saving money on that line item in the budget.
It's not dictating. It's the company proving that there is a bonafide need by paying above the rate of the American median. You can lookup H1B salaries. The info is public. They are severely lagging what the market rate is. Americans are fired first and replaced by H1B.
It's all about returning money to shareholders. That's it. This country is legally corrupt at the moment. And Bankrupt.
That's so 1968 (or whenever Ehrlich got his book published).
That goes back to the enforcement issue I brought up earlier.
The point is becoming moot in many industries anyway. You don't necessarily need people in the country with you. We're a small husiness by every measure and have an operating unit in India that's a wholly owned subsidiary.
Tech, manufacturing, customer service, etc...
Mao was a communist and had no problem killing 10s of millions of Chinese peasants.
True. What did Mao, Marx, and Lenin think of religion? Putin's Russia certainly isn't atheist.
I'm not trying to be disingenuous or say that we shouldn't enforce those laws.
Instead, I'm trying to point out it is more difficult than just saying or even having the will to mean "enforce the laws more strictly." As a result, that solution you put forward might (1) not be enough, (2)(most likely) be something you can sell to the people who are pissed but is too hard to quantify the results of the policy, giving those in power the ability to not enforce well but lie about it; and/or (3) be too impractical to ever garner enough political support to overcome pushback from monied interests.
I'm not taking hard stances here, just pushing back to see what the responses are to my doubts and questions.
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Problem is most men are like mcmurt. They get tired of one chick. So maybe the solution is the find several chicks and have one kid with each one?
Interesting discussion.
I think of "deserve" in the sense of persons, as you've written it, as something that individual did and could control.
I agree with you that govts reflect a particular society/culture (probably one of the things GWBush and neocons didn't pay enough attention to) but I find it hard to blame an individual person who was raised from birth and indcotrinated into a culture/society as being able to control that, something that person actively chose to do, and so something he or she "deserves."
I'd like to hear more about this Stem OPT. Any good articles you have read?
I really am like a celebrity- without the celebrity fame or money. Same outlook tho
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