LT: Bloomberg planning 2020 run as Democrat

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/bloomberg-set-to-run-against-trump-in-2020-qvbfcrswg

I have no idea what people like Noodle and Mark, et al., think of Bloomberg, but that's probably the demographic he's shooting at - disaffected moderates who want to vote Democrat, but don't want to vote for Bernie.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/bloomberg-set-to-run-against-trump-in-2020-qvbfcrswg

I have no idea what people like Noodle and Mark, et al., think of Bloomberg, but that's probably the demographic he's shooting at - disaffected moderates who want to vote Democrat, but don't want to vote for Bernie.

Yes please

 

[UncleMark]

I think when people say "We need a businessman to run the country", Bloomberg is more what they have in mind than Trump.

I think I'd be okay with him, but would need to know more about where he stands on health care, the tax structure, and reining in defense spending. I admit not knowing all that much about him.

 

[Rockfish1]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/bloomberg-set-to-run-against-trump-in-2020-qvbfcrswg

I have no idea what people like Noodle and Mark, et al., think of Bloomberg, but that's probably the demographic he's shooting at - disaffected moderates who want to vote Democrat, but don't want to vote for Bernie.

Pass.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Pass.

Yeah, I would not have expected him to get your juices flowing.

 

[Bill4411]

He is boring, old (76) but very competent selfmade businessman. Personally I would prefer someone younger than Michael. Bloomberg is a bit of a scold as he limited the size of soft drinks available in New York I thought this won’t play very well with many voters.

 

[Rockfish1]

Yeah, I would not have expected him to get your juices flowing.

Obviously I get that he's a smart capable energetic guy. Lots of experience running things. I see sensible conservative Ranger likes him, and that's because Ranger is a sensible conservative. I, on the other hand, am a liberal. And I am just completely not down with even a capable plutocrat being cast as our savior.

I also reject the notion that the antidote to idiot business man Trump is capable business man Bloomberg. I think this whole let's-let-CEOs-run-the-government notion is daft. (Yes, I understand Bloomberg was mayor of New York.)

I think Democrats should reject Bloomberg, Bernie, and any other non-Democrat as the Democratic presidential candidate. The only viable entity that could defeat Trump and Trumpism is the Democratic Party. This is no time for another Manhattan plutocrat's vanity project.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Obviously I get that he's a smart capable energetic guy. Lots of experience running things. I see sensible conservative Ranger likes him, and that's because Ranger is a sensible conservative. I, on the other hand, am a liberal. And I am just completely not down with even a capable plutocrat being cast as our savior.

I also reject the notion that the antidote to idiot business man Trump is capable business man Bloomberg. I think this whole let's-let-CEOs-run-the-government notion is daft. (Yes, I understand Bloomberg was mayor of New York.)

I think Democrats should reject Bloomberg, Bernie, and any other non-Democrat as the Democratic presidential candidate. The only viable entity that could defeat Trump and Trumpism is the Democratic Party. This is no time for another Manhattan plutocrat's vanity project.

For me it is partly age. I will not support Sanders, Warren, Bloomberg, or Biden. And there is the problem, that is a lot of frontrunners.

 

[Rockfish1]

For me it is partly age. I will not support Sanders, Warren, Bloomberg, or Biden. And there is the problem, that is a lot of frontrunners.

No worries, Marv. By 2020 there will be plenty of candidates more youthful than old farts like you and me. We need to be rooting for the next generation.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

For me it is partly age. I will not support Sanders, Warren, Bloomberg, or Biden. And there is the problem, that is a lot of frontrunners.

When did this happen? Since old fart Truman, the only Democrat who cracked 60 while still in office was LBJ, who turned 60 the August before he left office. Meanwhile, all Repub presidents have cracked 60, and all but two (Nixon, Bush 2) were at least 60 when they started serving.

Now, all of a sudden, the Dems can't find someone who was born after the frontier was tamed?

 

[twenty02]

What about Hickenlooper? Seems he's running for sure.

 

[Jeb MT Mater]

What about Hickenlooper? Seems he's running for sure.

Definitely sounds like someone conservatives could drink a beer with.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

What about Hickenlooper? Seems he's running for sure.

I would be satisfied with him. Not my first choice, but an acceptable one.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

No worries, Marv. By 2020 there will be plenty of candidates more youthful than old farts like you and me. We need to be rooting for the next generation.

I am, I want a non Boomer. Last time I thought I was going to go for O'Malley but then he proved incoherent on policy.

It is a shame Biden kept tripping over himself in his youth, but I don't want him to run.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

When did this happen? Since old fart Truman, the only Democrat who cracked 60 while still in office was LBJ, who turned 60 the August before he left office. Meanwhile, all Repub presidents have cracked 60, and all but two (Nixon, Bush 2) were at least 60 when they started serving.

Now, all of a sudden, the Dems can't find someone who was born after the frontier was tamed?

For Dems, Obama sucked all oxygen out of the room for 8 years. Only those that had name rec before he came had it when he left.

 

[Rockfish1]

I would be satisfied with him. Not my first choice, but an acceptable one.

I doubt this is a conversation any Democratic politicians are having. Who knows how things will look in 2020, but right now Hickenlooper looks like a solution to a problem Democrats don't have. Yes, Republicans say nice things about him, but they'd attack him if he were the nominee. There's no reason to let The Other Guys decide who they'll run against. Hickenlooper is nowhere near the top of my list.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

I am, I want a non Boomer. Last time I thought I was going to go for O'Malley but then he proved incoherent on policy.

It is a shame Biden kept tripping over himself in his youth, but I don't want him to run.

I signed up for O'Malley's mailing list the day he launched his campaign. I think it took about three weeks for me to start responding to each of his campaign emails with an eyeroll.

 

[UncleMark]

I am, I want a non Boomer. Last time I thought I was going to go for O'Malley but then he proved incoherent on policy.

I found O'Malley intriguing, but he wasn't around long enough for me to get into his positions with any kind of depth. At the time I was looking for viable alternatives to HRC. With the right backing -- financial and strategic -- I think he could make a splash. It least superficially, he checks a lot of boxes.

 

[iu_a_att]

if Beto wins senate in Texas then I hope he runs for President. Heck, even if he comes close I might like him to run.

 

[Fro]

I don't see a lane for Bloomberg. Too old, too rich.

Anyone associated with Wall Street has a huge uphill climb.

 

[ItsMillerTime]

if Beto wins senate in Texas then I hope he runs for President. Heck, even if he comes close I might like him to run.

Beto is an impressive public speaker, but a know nothing.

Do you guys really want to re-hash 2008-2016?

Edit: Newsom fits the exact same description.

 

[sglowrider]

My sister, who is to the left of me was pretty happy living through the years of Bloomberg in NYC which surprised me. He seemed to have found a way to keep all the various constituents happy. My problem is his age, 79 y.o when he gets into the office if he wins?
But a debate between Trump and Bloomberg would be worth the ticket. The stuff Bloomberg knows of Trump over the past 35 years... I am not sure he would be doing the same tricks as he did with Michael. He is a pitbull.

80s is the new 40s?

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I signed up for O'Malley's mailing list the day he launched his campaign. I think it took about three weeks for me to start responding to each of his campaign emails with an eyeroll.

I watched an interview before he declared, I thought he was it. He declared and his stump speech did not have the passion. Then came that first debate. I turned to my wife halfway through and said that he was not running for president but for vice president. And now we know his Maryland miracle wasn't.

And I am not enthralled with governors. Other than CA, it is like becoming CEO of Apple because one ran a successful neighborhood lemonade stand.

 

[UncleMark]

And I am not enthralled with governors. Other than CA, it is like becoming CEO of Apple because one ran a successful neighborhood lemonade stand.

For me, the ideal (generic) candidate would have experience in Congress and as a Governor. And it's not unusual at all for Governors to run for Senate or vice versa. Unfortunately, it seems those people never aspire to go any further/higher. <shrug>

 

[37Hoosier]

For me, the ideal (generic) candidate would have experience in Congress and as a Governor. And it's not unusual at all for Governors to run for Senate or vice versa. Unfortunately, it seems those people never aspire to go any further/higher. <shrug>

She needs to be smoking hot.

 

[Rockfish1]

She needs to be smoking hot.

 

[Noodle]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/bloomberg-set-to-run-against-trump-in-2020-qvbfcrswg

I have no idea what people like Noodle and Mark, et al., think of Bloomberg, but that's probably the demographic he's shooting at - disaffected moderates who want to vote Democrat, but don't want to vote for Bernie.

Well, it would obviously depend on the other options. Bloomberg against Trump? Of course I would vote Bloomberg. Hell, I would vote for Jimmy Carter over Trump.
Hickenlooper? Sure. But the Democratic Party would never nominate him. No, they’ll come up with some way left of the mainstream fresh face, and end up converting a walk in the park to a nail biter.

 

[zeke4ahs]

if Beto wins senate in Texas then I hope he runs for President. Heck, even if he comes close I might like him to run.

Beto is an impressive public speaker, but a know nothing.

Do you guys really want to re-hash 2008-2016?

Edit: Newsom fits the exact same description.

Why do you think Beto is a know nothing? He may be, I’ve only heard him speak a few times. I don’t think he’d be ready for 2020 though.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/bloomberg-set-to-run-against-trump-in-2020-qvbfcrswg

I have no idea what people like Noodle and Mark, et al., think of Bloomberg, but that's probably the demographic he's shooting at - disaffected moderates who want to vote Democrat, but don't want to vote for Bernie.

He's at least ten years ago too late. Partly due to age and partly because I don't believe a centrist will win for quite some time.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Well, it would obviously depend on the other options. Bloomberg against Trump? Of course I would vote Bloomberg. Hell, I would vote for Jimmy Carter over Trump.
Hickenlooper? Sure. But the Democratic Party would never nominate him. No, they’ll come up with some way left of the mainstream fresh face, and end up converting a walk in the park to a nail biter.

If I was a Democrat, I’d vote for him all day long and twice on Sundays over Trump. Since I’m a Republican, I’d cast my sole legal vote for him over Trump . . .

He’d never get my vote over a solid, legitimate, traditional and sane Republican.

A Bloomberg vs Trump election would have to be the oldest matchup in history. Their combined ages would be around 180. That’s just not right IMO.

 

[SuperHoosierFan]

I doubt this is a conversation any Democratic politicians are having. Who knows how things will look in 2020, but right now Hickenlooper looks like a solution to a problem Democrats don't have. Yes, Republicans say nice things about him, but they'd attack him if he were the nominee. There's no reason to let The Other Guys decide who they'll run against. Hickenlooper is nowhere near the top of my list.

I’ll go ahead and put this out there.

If Hickenlooper is nominated, he’s the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

If Bloomberg is nominated, he’s the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

If (enter any D name) is nominated, they’re the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

 

[twenty02]

I’ll go ahead and put this out there.

If Hickenlooper is nominated, he’s the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

If Bloomberg is nominated, he’s the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

If (enter any D name) is nominated, they’re the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

We could say the same thing about both sides. It's a never ending political debate whether the best strategy is running someone that appeals to the elusive true swing voter (which is 20% of the country max)....or someone that excites and drives out the party's base.

Obama did both in 2008 (but not in 2012). Nobody else has done both since Reagan.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I’ll go ahead and put this out there.

If Hickenlooper is nominated, he’s the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

If Bloomberg is nominated, he’s the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

If (enter any D name) is nominated, they’re the one dem that pubs just couldn’t vote for.

Serious witless projection from a poster that would never vote for a Republican under any circumstances.

 

[SuperHoosierFan]

We could say the same thing about both sides. It's a never ending political debate whether the best strategy is running someone that appeals to the elusive true swing voter (which is 20% of the country max)....or someone that excites and drives out the party's base.

Obama did both in 2008 (but not in 2012). Nobody else has done both since Reagan.

I don’t even bother playing the game. I decided almost 20 years ago I’ll never vote for a pub on a national level again. Either I or D for me.