Look where Western Kentucky is ranked...
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I see where they posted a blurb that ex-USC QB Ricky Towns, our next signal caller of the future (sarcasm intended), is set to visit Arkansas.
These rankings always gets me fired up about the lack of respect that IU has gotten over the last 20 years. It has been unbelievable that a BIG school would not have any more success than we have had in that time span. I am ready for IU to start a string of 20 years being ranked in the top 50 at least. No reason we shouldn't be in at least the upper half with our Power 5 Conference position nearly every year. But to get there, we have to start winning and producing on the field, pure and simple. They say that wine gets better with age, well I know that when we do start that winning streak it will taste so sweet.
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I get that but in the last 20 years how many times have they been wrong? I think being in the upper half of the conference would be much easier than the upper half of the division. There's no question that IU would be a perineal bowl and even division contender if in the B1G West.
In the last 5 years, we're 6-14 against West teams, and 3 of those wins have been against Purdue. We're 0-4 against Wisconsin, losing by an aggregate score of 255-57, and the closest we've come was a 39 point loss in 2011. Those numbers don't say division contender to me.
Plenty of headscratchers on there.
Maryland at 49, despite only returning 9 or 10 total starters. Probably should be 10 if not 20 spots lower
Michigan and PSU at 29 and 31. Too many question marks for them to be ranked that high
Pitt at 36.
Meaningless. It takes several games to see where everyone is at. Even then maybe a few games into conference play to see exactly. Way too many moving parts in college football.
Michigan and Penn State look high, but I agree with Pitt and Maryland. Chryst left a pretty good team for Narduzzi and Edsall is a very good coach who's built a solid program.
With Penn State and Michigan rebounding, the Big Ten East will consistently be the best or at least the second-best division in college football. Ohio State winning that first playoff championship was huge for the conference; that will go a long way. Still, being in this division long term I think will be good for IU footbalI. I also think we're on the right track, and I support Coach Wilson. He is definitely recruiting better than anyone ever has in Bloomington, and I've been following IUFB since 1980. That said, I think we tend to have tunnel vision when viewing our team. Even though we are getting better, there are 127 other teams trying to do the same thing.
Chryst winning 6 games for 3 straight years isn't a pretty good team, it's not a terrible team but 36 is way too high
Edsall having 2 7 win seasons doesn't constitute a solid enough program to withstand the loss of 12 starters
"A team with IU's 2013 offense and 2014 defense would have ranked 30th in S&P+ last year"
Sigh... We are I close (I hope)
Sigh... We are I close (I hope)
It's what Chryst left after rebuilding the Pitt program that matters, and good coaches like Edsall do well with what they have. He's a really good coach.
And it was the exact program that he took over, one of the most consistently overrated/underperforming teams of the last 2 decades. And Chryst didn't rebuild anything he took over a 6-6 team and maintained it.
Chryst was their third coach in three years, replacing Todd Graham after his one year stint of replacing Dave Wannstedt. The program was reeling when Chryst arrived, and he stabilized both the roster and recruiting. Narduzzi will be the beneficiary. Looking solely at records doesn't tell nearly the whole story. There's a little more to it than that.
Let's be honest. Indiana would be mid pack at best in the MAC.
There is no excuse for it. Its the administrations fault. Theyignired it for decades and relied on bball. Then thebball program started totank, leaving them with nothing.
There is no excuse for it. Its the administrations fault. Theyignired it for decades and relied on bball. Then thebball program started totank, leaving them with nothing.
School reputations go a long way with recruits. Kids don't want to hear about how under-rated North Texas State was. Or Bowling Green.... Obviously Western Kentucky has a pretty good program. But a win over them will mean very little - while a loss would be another recruiting setback. Oh yes, a win would get IU one step closer to a meaningless bowl game. Four wins in the Big 10 conference - now that would mean something.
But bowl reputations go a lot further. If IU were to get to 4 bowls in a row, no matter how they get there, the way it is viewed in the football world would be night and day from the perception now. You could schedule Bama, Oregon, Florida State and Oklahoma in your pre-season and you might be the only guy watching the team at the end of 3rd quarter. That doesn't do us any good, not now anyway. All that does is earn us a woeful reputation as everybody's punching bag. We already play Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan and Penn State. Does IU really have to play 90% of it's schedule against heavyweights to not be considered "soft?" Doesn't conference play already erase that?
Have you looked at Rutgers schedule? How about Penn State? I don't see a big difference?
Well, for one, these are never correct. And two, I guarantee we won't go 3-10. I will bet you my life's savings.
I'm not sure why you have been on this tear all of a sudden ranting about football. How about we, you know, play the season?
That's a safe bet, especially considering we don't play 13 games unless we get to a bowl..which would mean we have won at least 6.
Now, 3-9???? That's entirely possible and I wouldn't bet against that. In fact, that's what I have us doing but hoping I'm really wrong on that.
You guys are killing me with your 3 and 9's and your mid pack MAC's. Why don't we watch one game before writing this team off. I know you are a big fan BRCB, just give it a chance. This team is due for a breakout after being stuck in the hedgerows the last two years.
Actually, I'm inclined to agree with you. I think we are underrated and I think we will win AT LEAST six, this season!
The general pre-season consensus of this board for the past 20 years is that we have been under-rated.
The issue is that we're not going to replicate the 2013 offense this year. The 2013 offense was top 15 in the country.
If we can make up ground, though, a slight improvement over last year defensively and an offense barely in the top 60 means an outside shot at a bowl.
I don't know, RBB - there are so many bowls now that the Pinstripe Bowl might have to really dig deep down to find a team.
Look at Minnesota and Indiana. Basically even teams, but one plays in the easier west and the other plays in the gauntlet that is the east. The perception is that Minnesota is better, yet on the field they only beat IU on a fluke play. Watching that game, you did not see a program 36 spots better in the rankings. Perception is tough to overcome, but good news is that once you are perceived as good it will take a while to wear off.
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