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He believes IU’s AD did not live up to search promises

BY TERRY HUTCHENS

CNHI SPORTS INDIANA

BLOOMINGTON — Ted Kitchel has never been one to mince words when it comes to hiring new Indiana basketball coaches.

The Lewis Cass product, who starred on the 1981 Indiana national championship team, was the guy who became famous for his thoughts on the day of Kelvin Sampson’s hiring in 2006.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,’’ Kitchel said at the time. “I wouldn’t hire that guy to coach my fifth-grade girls team. That guy is absolutely what we don’t want at IU.’’

Eleven years later, Kitchel is unhappy again. This time, he’s not anti-Archie Miller as much as he is disappointed in the way the coaching search played out, specifically in terms of whether former IU players were given serious consideration in the process.

Kitchel doesn’t believe anyone was. He said several former players were given “obligatory interviews” to discuss the future and the direction of the program, but no one was actually interviewed for the position.

“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

Kitchel was quick to point out that his feelings had nothing to do with Miller, who Indiana announced Saturday it had hired as the coach to replace Tom Crean, who was fired by the university March 16. Miller will be introduced as the Indiana coach at a press conference at the university at 3 p.m. today.

“I’m sure that Archie Miller is a fine guy,’’ Kitchel said. “He’s had good success, and he’s coached under guys that I like a lot like Thad Matta. He has coached at good places. This has nothing to do with Miller or anything like that. It’s just that the AD said that an IU guy would have an opportunity, and I don’t believe that happened.

“I know that Steve Alford would have jumped at the chance. If Steve Alford goes into the house of the kid in New Albany [Romeo Langford] and talked to him, I think he would have packed a little more powerful punch than Archie Miller is going to have. I think recruiting the state of Indiana is really important, and I think Steve or Dane Fife would have been great. Dane Fife has had great success recruiting the state of Indiana at Michigan State. But Fred seems to know a heck of a lot more about it than any of us. That’s what he gets paid for to be the A.D. and so I guess we’ll let him do his job.’’

Kitchel said he has heard that a big reason Alford wasn’t seriously considered was because of the incident with one of his former players at

See KITCHEL | B2



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CASS KING: Indiana forward Ted Kitchel prepares to fire one of his 18 free throws that he hit in a row to set a Big Ten record in a 78-61 victory over Illinois on Jan. 12, 1981. Kitchel made 11 of 13 field goal attempts for a career- and game-high 40 points.

File photo | The Associated Press


KITCHEL

CONTINUED FROM PAGE B1

Iowa. Pierre Pierce was the Iowa player accused of sexually assaulting a student at the university in 2002. He and the victim ultimately agreed to a deal that allowed Pierce to plead to a lesser charge and give a public apology. Alford had stood behind his player, but many believed he had gone too far in his support. And matters got uglier three years later when Pierce was charged with assault on a woman he had previously been dating.

Kitchel said if that was the reason Alford wasn’t given consideration at Indiana then he wonders if Glass is the right person to lead the IU athletic department.

“That happened what 15 years ago? And Alford has been hired two times since then?’’ Kitchel said. “So other schools have looked at that and there has never been a problem. Is there any more of a liberal school in the country than UCLA? Do you think they didn’t look at that? I mean if Fred Glass is afraid of women coming out to protest because Steve Alford is your head coach … I mean are you kidding me? If that’s the case, I don’t think I want that guy leading my athletic program if he’s afraid of things like that. Maybe it’s time we look for a new athletic director.’’

Attempts to reach Glass for a response to Kitchel’s comments were unsuccessful.

Steve Risley was a teammate of Kitchel’s on IU’s 1981 national championship team and now resides in Los Angeles. He said Sunday he was one of the former players Glass reached out to seeking input on the direction of the program.

When told many former players weren’t happy with the process, Risley said he wasn’t sure why that would be.

“Fred Glass was very forthright with me with what he was trying to accomplish and what he was trying to find,” Risley said. “I don’t know if the players that are complaining didn’t get called by Glass or not.”

Risley thought Miller was a good choice.

“From what I’ve heard and what I’ve read about so far, I think he’s what people are looking for,” Risley said. “He’s a defensive-minded coach who plays very tough, physical basketball. Dayton plays that way, and they play like we used to play when I played at IU.

“I think if people get beyond that we needed to have Alford or Fife or Woodson or Wittman, and they start looking at [Miller] as our coach, I think they’re going to see a lot of things that they like. I did. I mean I was pulling for a lot of our IU guys, too. But I thought they all pretty much disqualified themselves in one way or another. And not in a negative way but rather Archie just gave [IU] a more qualified candidate for what they were looking for. I think it’s a good fit.”
 
He believes IU’s AD did not live up to search promises

BY TERRY HUTCHENS

CNHI SPORTS INDIANA

BLOOMINGTON — Ted Kitchel has never been one to mince words when it comes to hiring new Indiana basketball coaches.

The Lewis Cass product, who starred on the 1981 Indiana national championship team, was the guy who became famous for his thoughts on the day of Kelvin Sampson’s hiring in 2006.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,’’ Kitchel said at the time. “I wouldn’t hire that guy to coach my fifth-grade girls team. That guy is absolutely what we don’t want at IU.’’

Eleven years later, Kitchel is unhappy again. This time, he’s not anti-Archie Miller as much as he is disappointed in the way the coaching search played out, specifically in terms of whether former IU players were given serious consideration in the process.

Kitchel doesn’t believe anyone was. He said several former players were given “obligatory interviews” to discuss the future and the direction of the program, but no one was actually interviewed for the position.

“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

Kitchel was quick to point out that his feelings had nothing to do with Miller, who Indiana announced Saturday it had hired as the coach to replace Tom Crean, who was fired by the university March 16. Miller will be introduced as the Indiana coach at a press conference at the university at 3 p.m. today.

“I’m sure that Archie Miller is a fine guy,’’ Kitchel said. “He’s had good success, and he’s coached under guys that I like a lot like Thad Matta. He has coached at good places. This has nothing to do with Miller or anything like that. It’s just that the AD said that an IU guy would have an opportunity, and I don’t believe that happened.

“I know that Steve Alford would have jumped at the chance. If Steve Alford goes into the house of the kid in New Albany [Romeo Langford] and talked to him, I think he would have packed a little more powerful punch than Archie Miller is going to have. I think recruiting the state of Indiana is really important, and I think Steve or Dane Fife would have been great. Dane Fife has had great success recruiting the state of Indiana at Michigan State. But Fred seems to know a heck of a lot more about it than any of us. That’s what he gets paid for to be the A.D. and so I guess we’ll let him do his job.’’

Kitchel said he has heard that a big reason Alford wasn’t seriously considered was because of the incident with one of his former players at

See KITCHEL | B2



Image_5.jpg

CASS KING: Indiana forward Ted Kitchel prepares to fire one of his 18 free throws that he hit in a row to set a Big Ten record in a 78-61 victory over Illinois on Jan. 12, 1981. Kitchel made 11 of 13 field goal attempts for a career- and game-high 40 points.

File photo | The Associated Press


KITCHEL

CONTINUED FROM PAGE B1

Iowa. Pierre Pierce was the Iowa player accused of sexually assaulting a student at the university in 2002. He and the victim ultimately agreed to a deal that allowed Pierce to plead to a lesser charge and give a public apology. Alford had stood behind his player, but many believed he had gone too far in his support. And matters got uglier three years later when Pierce was charged with assault on a woman he had previously been dating.

Kitchel said if that was the reason Alford wasn’t given consideration at Indiana then he wonders if Glass is the right person to lead the IU athletic department.

“That happened what 15 years ago? And Alford has been hired two times since then?’’ Kitchel said. “So other schools have looked at that and there has never been a problem. Is there any more of a liberal school in the country than UCLA? Do you think they didn’t look at that? I mean if Fred Glass is afraid of women coming out to protest because Steve Alford is your head coach … I mean are you kidding me? If that’s the case, I don’t think I want that guy leading my athletic program if he’s afraid of things like that. Maybe it’s time we look for a new athletic director.’’

Attempts to reach Glass for a response to Kitchel’s comments were unsuccessful.

Steve Risley was a teammate of Kitchel’s on IU’s 1981 national championship team and now resides in Los Angeles. He said Sunday he was one of the former players Glass reached out to seeking input on the direction of the program.

When told many former players weren’t happy with the process, Risley said he wasn’t sure why that would be.

“Fred Glass was very forthright with me with what he was trying to accomplish and what he was trying to find,” Risley said. “I don’t know if the players that are complaining didn’t get called by Glass or not.”

Risley thought Miller was a good choice.

“From what I’ve heard and what I’ve read about so far, I think he’s what people are looking for,” Risley said. “He’s a defensive-minded coach who plays very tough, physical basketball. Dayton plays that way, and they play like we used to play when I played at IU.

“I think if people get beyond that we needed to have Alford or Fife or Woodson or Wittman, and they start looking at [Miller] as our coach, I think they’re going to see a lot of things that they like. I did. I mean I was pulling for a lot of our IU guys, too. But I thought they all pretty much disqualified themselves in one way or another. And not in a negative way but rather Archie just gave [IU] a more qualified candidate for what they were looking for. I think it’s a good fit.”

Dude needs to get back to listening to Limbaugh.
 
He believes IU’s AD did not live up to search promises

BY TERRY HUTCHENS

CNHI SPORTS INDIANA

BLOOMINGTON — Ted Kitchel has never been one to mince words when it comes to hiring new Indiana basketball coaches.

The Lewis Cass product, who starred on the 1981 Indiana national championship team, was the guy who became famous for his thoughts on the day of Kelvin Sampson’s hiring in 2006.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,’’ Kitchel said at the time. “I wouldn’t hire that guy to coach my fifth-grade girls team. That guy is absolutely what we don’t want at IU.’’

Eleven years later, Kitchel is unhappy again. This time, he’s not anti-Archie Miller as much as he is disappointed in the way the coaching search played out, specifically in terms of whether former IU players were given serious consideration in the process.

Kitchel doesn’t believe anyone was. He said several former players were given “obligatory interviews” to discuss the future and the direction of the program, but no one was actually interviewed for the position.

“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

Kitchel was quick to point out that his feelings had nothing to do with Miller, who Indiana announced Saturday it had hired as the coach to replace Tom Crean, who was fired by the university March 16. Miller will be introduced as the Indiana coach at a press conference at the university at 3 p.m. today.

“I’m sure that Archie Miller is a fine guy,’’ Kitchel said. “He’s had good success, and he’s coached under guys that I like a lot like Thad Matta. He has coached at good places. This has nothing to do with Miller or anything like that. It’s just that the AD said that an IU guy would have an opportunity, and I don’t believe that happened.

“I know that Steve Alford would have jumped at the chance. If Steve Alford goes into the house of the kid in New Albany [Romeo Langford] and talked to him, I think he would have packed a little more powerful punch than Archie Miller is going to have. I think recruiting the state of Indiana is really important, and I think Steve or Dane Fife would have been great. Dane Fife has had great success recruiting the state of Indiana at Michigan State. But Fred seems to know a heck of a lot more about it than any of us. That’s what he gets paid for to be the A.D. and so I guess we’ll let him do his job.’’

Kitchel said he has heard that a big reason Alford wasn’t seriously considered was because of the incident with one of his former players at

See KITCHEL | B2



Image_5.jpg

CASS KING: Indiana forward Ted Kitchel prepares to fire one of his 18 free throws that he hit in a row to set a Big Ten record in a 78-61 victory over Illinois on Jan. 12, 1981. Kitchel made 11 of 13 field goal attempts for a career- and game-high 40 points.

File photo | The Associated Press


KITCHEL

CONTINUED FROM PAGE B1

Iowa. Pierre Pierce was the Iowa player accused of sexually assaulting a student at the university in 2002. He and the victim ultimately agreed to a deal that allowed Pierce to plead to a lesser charge and give a public apology. Alford had stood behind his player, but many believed he had gone too far in his support. And matters got uglier three years later when Pierce was charged with assault on a woman he had previously been dating.

Kitchel said if that was the reason Alford wasn’t given consideration at Indiana then he wonders if Glass is the right person to lead the IU athletic department.

“That happened what 15 years ago? And Alford has been hired two times since then?’’ Kitchel said. “So other schools have looked at that and there has never been a problem. Is there any more of a liberal school in the country than UCLA? Do you think they didn’t look at that? I mean if Fred Glass is afraid of women coming out to protest because Steve Alford is your head coach … I mean are you kidding me? If that’s the case, I don’t think I want that guy leading my athletic program if he’s afraid of things like that. Maybe it’s time we look for a new athletic director.’’

Attempts to reach Glass for a response to Kitchel’s comments were unsuccessful.

Steve Risley was a teammate of Kitchel’s on IU’s 1981 national championship team and now resides in Los Angeles. He said Sunday he was one of the former players Glass reached out to seeking input on the direction of the program.

When told many former players weren’t happy with the process, Risley said he wasn’t sure why that would be.

“Fred Glass was very forthright with me with what he was trying to accomplish and what he was trying to find,” Risley said. “I don’t know if the players that are complaining didn’t get called by Glass or not.”

Risley thought Miller was a good choice.

“From what I’ve heard and what I’ve read about so far, I think he’s what people are looking for,” Risley said. “He’s a defensive-minded coach who plays very tough, physical basketball. Dayton plays that way, and they play like we used to play when I played at IU.

“I think if people get beyond that we needed to have Alford or Fife or Woodson or Wittman, and they start looking at [Miller] as our coach, I think they’re going to see a lot of things that they like. I did. I mean I was pulling for a lot of our IU guys, too. But I thought they all pretty much disqualified themselves in one way or another. And not in a negative way but rather Archie just gave [IU] a more qualified candidate for what they were looking for. I think it’s a good fit.”


You mad?
 
He believes IU’s AD did not live up to search promises

BY TERRY HUTCHENS

CNHI SPORTS INDIANA

BLOOMINGTON — Ted Kitchel has never been one to mince words when it comes to hiring new Indiana basketball coaches.

The Lewis Cass product, who starred on the 1981 Indiana national championship team, was the guy who became famous for his thoughts on the day of Kelvin Sampson’s hiring in 2006.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,’’ Kitchel said at the time. “I wouldn’t hire that guy to coach my fifth-grade girls team. That guy is absolutely what we don’t want at IU.’’

Eleven years later, Kitchel is unhappy again. This time, he’s not anti-Archie Miller as much as he is disappointed in the way the coaching search played out, specifically in terms of whether former IU players were given serious consideration in the process.

Kitchel doesn’t believe anyone was. He said several former players were given “obligatory interviews” to discuss the future and the direction of the program, but no one was actually interviewed for the position.

“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

Kitchel was quick to point out that his feelings had nothing to do with Miller, who Indiana announced Saturday it had hired as the coach to replace Tom Crean, who was fired by the university March 16. Miller will be introduced as the Indiana coach at a press conference at the university at 3 p.m. today.

“I’m sure that Archie Miller is a fine guy,’’ Kitchel said. “He’s had good success, and he’s coached under guys that I like a lot like Thad Matta. He has coached at good places. This has nothing to do with Miller or anything like that. It’s just that the AD said that an IU guy would have an opportunity, and I don’t believe that happened.

“I know that Steve Alford would have jumped at the chance. If Steve Alford goes into the house of the kid in New Albany [Romeo Langford] and talked to him, I think he would have packed a little more powerful punch than Archie Miller is going to have. I think recruiting the state of Indiana is really important, and I think Steve or Dane Fife would have been great. Dane Fife has had great success recruiting the state of Indiana at Michigan State. But Fred seems to know a heck of a lot more about it than any of us. That’s what he gets paid for to be the A.D. and so I guess we’ll let him do his job.’’

Kitchel said he has heard that a big reason Alford wasn’t seriously considered was because of the incident with one of his former players at

See KITCHEL | B2



Image_5.jpg

CASS KING: Indiana forward Ted Kitchel prepares to fire one of his 18 free throws that he hit in a row to set a Big Ten record in a 78-61 victory over Illinois on Jan. 12, 1981. Kitchel made 11 of 13 field goal attempts for a career- and game-high 40 points.

File photo | The Associated Press


KITCHEL

CONTINUED FROM PAGE B1

Iowa. Pierre Pierce was the Iowa player accused of sexually assaulting a student at the university in 2002. He and the victim ultimately agreed to a deal that allowed Pierce to plead to a lesser charge and give a public apology. Alford had stood behind his player, but many believed he had gone too far in his support. And matters got uglier three years later when Pierce was charged with assault on a woman he had previously been dating.

Kitchel said if that was the reason Alford wasn’t given consideration at Indiana then he wonders if Glass is the right person to lead the IU athletic department.

“That happened what 15 years ago? And Alford has been hired two times since then?’’ Kitchel said. “So other schools have looked at that and there has never been a problem. Is there any more of a liberal school in the country than UCLA? Do you think they didn’t look at that? I mean if Fred Glass is afraid of women coming out to protest because Steve Alford is your head coach … I mean are you kidding me? If that’s the case, I don’t think I want that guy leading my athletic program if he’s afraid of things like that. Maybe it’s time we look for a new athletic director.’’

Attempts to reach Glass for a response to Kitchel’s comments were unsuccessful.

Steve Risley was a teammate of Kitchel’s on IU’s 1981 national championship team and now resides in Los Angeles. He said Sunday he was one of the former players Glass reached out to seeking input on the direction of the program.

When told many former players weren’t happy with the process, Risley said he wasn’t sure why that would be.

“Fred Glass was very forthright with me with what he was trying to accomplish and what he was trying to find,” Risley said. “I don’t know if the players that are complaining didn’t get called by Glass or not.”

Risley thought Miller was a good choice.

“From what I’ve heard and what I’ve read about so far, I think he’s what people are looking for,” Risley said. “He’s a defensive-minded coach who plays very tough, physical basketball. Dayton plays that way, and they play like we used to play when I played at IU.

“I think if people get beyond that we needed to have Alford or Fife or Woodson or Wittman, and they start looking at [Miller] as our coach, I think they’re going to see a lot of things that they like. I did. I mean I was pulling for a lot of our IU guys, too. But I thought they all pretty much disqualified themselves in one way or another. And not in a negative way but rather Archie just gave [IU] a more qualified candidate for what they were looking for. I think it’s a good fit.”
Kitchel has been a grumpy old man for years.

"They didn't get interviews...oh, well they did, but they weren't long enough."

Mike Woodson? Really? And I laughed out loud at Romeo Langford giving a crap about Steve Alford.
 
Dude needs to get back to listening to Limbaugh.

You know what, you can disagree with his opinions for valid reasons, but Kitchel is a great former player and should be respected. Snide comments like this are bullshit. Why exactly is Kitchel wrong? Because you perceive him to be a grumpy old white guy who listens to Rush Limbaugh? Total bullshit.

I'm always amazed by the so-called fans around here who have apparently made it their mission in life to denigrate and trash everyone and everything that made this program great.
 
As a former player, Kitchell needs to support the team for who they are, not who they are not. A recruit can read those comments an can backfire in recruiting - well done TK.

TK needs to tell former players to establish a solid resume to get hired for a job like IU. Woodson or Wottman should look for a college HC job like IUPUI and work from there (or try to have more success in NBA). Five should go for a head coaching job at a mid major program rather than being merely an assistant.

All else equal, sure an IU baller would have been great but...
 
“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

If this is all true, then this is the approach I've seen repeatedly from IU administrators. They have a decision to make. They already know what they are going to do. They create a facade of talking to people, holding meetings, gathering feedback, so it looks like they are carefully considering all options. And then they go with what they wanted all along. That is why I'm so surprised (happily) that we didn't hire end up hiring Alford. It sounds like at the point we were talking to other Indiana people, Alford was still the foregone choice and it was only the overwhelming near-unanimous negativity about Alford that changed things.
 
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You know what, you can disagree with his opinions for valid reasons, but Kitchel is a great former player and should be respected. Snide comments like this are bullshit. Why exactly is Kitchel wrong? Because you perceive him to be a grumpy old white guy who listens to Rush Limbaugh? Total bullshit.

I'm always amazed by the so-called fans around here who have apparently made it their mission in life to denigrate and trash everyone and everything that made this program great.
I appreciate what he did for the program, but he's not immune from criticism. He made obnoxious, out of touch remarks and contradicted the interview thing in the very next sentence. People get tired of the insistence on having every conceivable position have to go to an "IU guy."
 
I don't give a rat's ass that it was a former player- the Pierce incident, whether it was 15 years or 15 minutes ago doesn't matter-it's about SA's judgement. Some things are inexcusable and that is one of them. As far as coaching, he is mediocre at best. I am so thankful he wasn't considered here. We would have been the laughing stock of bb. I appreciate what the players did here; but Glass shouldn't have said what he said. Calling for advice is one thing; "obligatory" interviews are a waste of time. None of the former players who are coaches are ready for this gig. Would I love Fife, Calbert or Lewis on the bench as an assistant--hell ya! If any of them were in a position, with success like CAM has had as a head coach; then you consider them, but they haven't.
Kitchell comes off as a whiny, old man; who like his former coach, seems to want to stick it to IU. I will always appreciate what they brought as players; but if you can't be an ambassador, then STFU.
 
He believes IU’s AD did not live up to search promises

BY TERRY HUTCHENS

CNHI SPORTS INDIANA

BLOOMINGTON — Ted Kitchel has never been one to mince words when it comes to hiring new Indiana basketball coaches.

The Lewis Cass product, who starred on the 1981 Indiana national championship team, was the guy who became famous for his thoughts on the day of Kelvin Sampson’s hiring in 2006.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,’’ Kitchel said at the time. “I wouldn’t hire that guy to coach my fifth-grade girls team. That guy is absolutely what we don’t want at IU.’’

Eleven years later, Kitchel is unhappy again. This time, he’s not anti-Archie Miller as much as he is disappointed in the way the coaching search played out, specifically in terms of whether former IU players were given serious consideration in the process.

Kitchel doesn’t believe anyone was. He said several former players were given “obligatory interviews” to discuss the future and the direction of the program, but no one was actually interviewed for the position.

“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

Kitchel was quick to point out that his feelings had nothing to do with Miller, who Indiana announced Saturday it had hired as the coach to replace Tom Crean, who was fired by the university March 16. Miller will be introduced as the Indiana coach at a press conference at the university at 3 p.m. today.

“I’m sure that Archie Miller is a fine guy,’’ Kitchel said. “He’s had good success, and he’s coached under guys that I like a lot like Thad Matta. He has coached at good places. This has nothing to do with Miller or anything like that. It’s just that the AD said that an IU guy would have an opportunity, and I don’t believe that happened.

“I know that Steve Alford would have jumped at the chance. If Steve Alford goes into the house of the kid in New Albany [Romeo Langford] and talked to him, I think he would have packed a little more powerful punch than Archie Miller is going to have. I think recruiting the state of Indiana is really important, and I think Steve or Dane Fife would have been great. Dane Fife has had great success recruiting the state of Indiana at Michigan State. But Fred seems to know a heck of a lot more about it than any of us. That’s what he gets paid for to be the A.D. and so I guess we’ll let him do his job.’’

Kitchel said he has heard that a big reason Alford wasn’t seriously considered was because of the incident with one of his former players at

See KITCHEL | B2



Image_5.jpg

CASS KING: Indiana forward Ted Kitchel prepares to fire one of his 18 free throws that he hit in a row to set a Big Ten record in a 78-61 victory over Illinois on Jan. 12, 1981. Kitchel made 11 of 13 field goal attempts for a career- and game-high 40 points.

File photo | The Associated Press


KITCHEL

CONTINUED FROM PAGE B1

Iowa. Pierre Pierce was the Iowa player accused of sexually assaulting a student at the university in 2002. He and the victim ultimately agreed to a deal that allowed Pierce to plead to a lesser charge and give a public apology. Alford had stood behind his player, but many believed he had gone too far in his support. And matters got uglier three years later when Pierce was charged with assault on a woman he had previously been dating.

Kitchel said if that was the reason Alford wasn’t given consideration at Indiana then he wonders if Glass is the right person to lead the IU athletic department.

“That happened what 15 years ago? And Alford has been hired two times since then?’’ Kitchel said. “So other schools have looked at that and there has never been a problem. Is there any more of a liberal school in the country than UCLA? Do you think they didn’t look at that? I mean if Fred Glass is afraid of women coming out to protest because Steve Alford is your head coach … I mean are you kidding me? If that’s the case, I don’t think I want that guy leading my athletic program if he’s afraid of things like that. Maybe it’s time we look for a new athletic director.’’

Attempts to reach Glass for a response to Kitchel’s comments were unsuccessful.

Steve Risley was a teammate of Kitchel’s on IU’s 1981 national championship team and now resides in Los Angeles. He said Sunday he was one of the former players Glass reached out to seeking input on the direction of the program.

When told many former players weren’t happy with the process, Risley said he wasn’t sure why that would be.

“Fred Glass was very forthright with me with what he was trying to accomplish and what he was trying to find,” Risley said. “I don’t know if the players that are complaining didn’t get called by Glass or not.”

Risley thought Miller was a good choice.

“From what I’ve heard and what I’ve read about so far, I think he’s what people are looking for,” Risley said. “He’s a defensive-minded coach who plays very tough, physical basketball. Dayton plays that way, and they play like we used to play when I played at IU.

“I think if people get beyond that we needed to have Alford or Fife or Woodson or Wittman, and they start looking at [Miller] as our coach, I think they’re going to see a lot of things that they like. I did. I mean I was pulling for a lot of our IU guys, too. But I thought they all pretty much disqualified themselves in one way or another. And not in a negative way but rather Archie just gave [IU] a more qualified candidate for what they were looking for. I think it’s a good fit.”
Besides Alford there was not one other former IU player who was remotely qualified for this job.
 
You know what, you can disagree with his opinions for valid reasons, but Kitchel is a great former player and should be respected. Snide comments like this are bullshit. Why exactly is Kitchel wrong? Because you perceive him to be a grumpy old white guy who listens to Rush Limbaugh? Total bullshit.

I'm always amazed by the so-called fans around here who have apparently made it their mission in life to denigrate and trash everyone and everything that made this program great.

Whoa. Who said anything about "white guy"? He assumed grumpy old men listen to Rush (which is an opinion.....based on facts). What you said was actually racist and you didn't even realize you did that. But you proved your own point, thanks.

You can't complain because a fan "denigrates" a former player who is bashing this "great" program. I think your anger is severely misguided....

Kitchell is mad because his unqualified friends didn't get a fair shake?!?! How childish is that? What does it accomplish aside from continue to weigh on the the new coach and program? It's nothing but selfish for him to look good to his friends by making that statement and that won't be very endearing to those who had absolutely NO interest in those said friends being hired.
 
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He believes IU’s AD did not live up to search promises

BY TERRY HUTCHENS

CNHI SPORTS INDIANA

BLOOMINGTON — Ted Kitchel has never been one to mince words when it comes to hiring new Indiana basketball coaches.

The Lewis Cass product, who starred on the 1981 Indiana national championship team, was the guy who became famous for his thoughts on the day of Kelvin Sampson’s hiring in 2006.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,’’ Kitchel said at the time. “I wouldn’t hire that guy to coach my fifth-grade girls team. That guy is absolutely what we don’t want at IU.’’

Eleven years later, Kitchel is unhappy again. This time, he’s not anti-Archie Miller as much as he is disappointed in the way the coaching search played out, specifically in terms of whether former IU players were given serious consideration in the process.

Kitchel doesn’t believe anyone was. He said several former players were given “obligatory interviews” to discuss the future and the direction of the program, but no one was actually interviewed for the position.

“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

Kitchel was quick to point out that his feelings had nothing to do with Miller, who Indiana announced Saturday it had hired as the coach to replace Tom Crean, who was fired by the university March 16. Miller will be introduced as the Indiana coach at a press conference at the university at 3 p.m. today.

“I’m sure that Archie Miller is a fine guy,’’ Kitchel said. “He’s had good success, and he’s coached under guys that I like a lot like Thad Matta. He has coached at good places. This has nothing to do with Miller or anything like that. It’s just that the AD said that an IU guy would have an opportunity, and I don’t believe that happened.

“I know that Steve Alford would have jumped at the chance. If Steve Alford goes into the house of the kid in New Albany [Romeo Langford] and talked to him, I think he would have packed a little more powerful punch than Archie Miller is going to have. I think recruiting the state of Indiana is really important, and I think Steve or Dane Fife would have been great. Dane Fife has had great success recruiting the state of Indiana at Michigan State. But Fred seems to know a heck of a lot more about it than any of us. That’s what he gets paid for to be the A.D. and so I guess we’ll let him do his job.’’

Kitchel said he has heard that a big reason Alford wasn’t seriously considered was because of the incident with one of his former players at

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CASS KING: Indiana forward Ted Kitchel prepares to fire one of his 18 free throws that he hit in a row to set a Big Ten record in a 78-61 victory over Illinois on Jan. 12, 1981. Kitchel made 11 of 13 field goal attempts for a career- and game-high 40 points.

File photo | The Associated Press


KITCHEL

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Iowa. Pierre Pierce was the Iowa player accused of sexually assaulting a student at the university in 2002. He and the victim ultimately agreed to a deal that allowed Pierce to plead to a lesser charge and give a public apology. Alford had stood behind his player, but many believed he had gone too far in his support. And matters got uglier three years later when Pierce was charged with assault on a woman he had previously been dating.

Kitchel said if that was the reason Alford wasn’t given consideration at Indiana then he wonders if Glass is the right person to lead the IU athletic department.

“That happened what 15 years ago? And Alford has been hired two times since then?’’ Kitchel said. “So other schools have looked at that and there has never been a problem. Is there any more of a liberal school in the country than UCLA? Do you think they didn’t look at that? I mean if Fred Glass is afraid of women coming out to protest because Steve Alford is your head coach … I mean are you kidding me? If that’s the case, I don’t think I want that guy leading my athletic program if he’s afraid of things like that. Maybe it’s time we look for a new athletic director.’’

Attempts to reach Glass for a response to Kitchel’s comments were unsuccessful.

Steve Risley was a teammate of Kitchel’s on IU’s 1981 national championship team and now resides in Los Angeles. He said Sunday he was one of the former players Glass reached out to seeking input on the direction of the program.

When told many former players weren’t happy with the process, Risley said he wasn’t sure why that would be.

“Fred Glass was very forthright with me with what he was trying to accomplish and what he was trying to find,” Risley said. “I don’t know if the players that are complaining didn’t get called by Glass or not.”

Risley thought Miller was a good choice.

“From what I’ve heard and what I’ve read about so far, I think he’s what people are looking for,” Risley said. “He’s a defensive-minded coach who plays very tough, physical basketball. Dayton plays that way, and they play like we used to play when I played at IU.

“I think if people get beyond that we needed to have Alford or Fife or Woodson or Wittman, and they start looking at [Miller] as our coach, I think they’re going to see a lot of things that they like. I did. I mean I was pulling for a lot of our IU guys, too. But I thought they all pretty much disqualified themselves in one way or another. And not in a negative way but rather Archie just gave [IU] a more qualified candidate for what they were looking for. I think it’s a good fit.”

Ted Kitchel is one of the many IU former players/fans who need to flip their calendars ahead 30 years. The 80's are over.
 
I am one of the old guys (46) who remember the great years but I still don't see a guy from IU who I would ant to coach IU.
I am the exact same age- vaguely remember '81- lost my mind in LSU game, reveled in UNLV and Natty in '87.. Thought we were close in early 90's with Alan Henderson. The older guys who are blindly loyal to RMK are out of touch-period.

Also, if 46 makes me an "old guy" well.. shit... GET OFF MY LAWN!! :)
 
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I don't give a rat's ass that it was a former player- the Pierce incident, whether it was 15 years or 15 minutes ago doesn't matter-it's about SA's judgement. Some things are inexcusable and that is one of them. As far as coaching, he is mediocre at best. I am so thankful he wasn't considered here. We would have been the laughing stock of bb. I appreciate what the players did here; but Glass shouldn't have said what he said. Calling for advice is one thing; "obligatory" interviews are a waste of time. None of the former players who are coaches are ready for this gig. Would I love Fife, Calbert or Lewis on the bench as an assistant--hell ya! If any of them were in a position, with success like CAM has had as a head coach; then you consider them, but they haven't.
Kitchell comes off as a whiny, old man; who like his former coach, seems to want to stick it to IU. I will always appreciate what they brought as players; but if you can't be an ambassador, then STFU.

And my guess is that had Alford been hired you would have creamed in your jeans regardless of your tough guy approach here.
 
Truthfully, if Kitchel thinks that Woodson/Wittman would be good fits for as a college head coach, he has very little respect for IU. To me, its sounds like he was more interested in seeing some friends get a good job than having IU getting a good coach

He's no different than Dakich. He wanted an IU guy that he previously knew so he could have solid access to the program. He and Dakich didn't want to feel like outsiders any more.

Pretty simple to see what their motive was.
 
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I am the exact same ago- vaguely remember '81- lost my mind in LSU game, reveled in UNLV and Natty in '87.. Thought we were close in early 90's with Alan Henderson. The older guys who are blindly loyal to RMK are out of touch-period.

Also, if 46 makes me an "old guy" well.. shit... GET OFF MY LAWN!! :)

I was 10 in the '76 perfect season. RMK is always who I think of as "the IU coach." And I didn't want Alford. I'm very happy with the Miller hire.
 
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Actually he has a point with his primary premise: that being that Fred didn't do what he was originally perceived as saying he would do: which was "heavily" weigh the job search in favor of an IU guy and interview any and all (IU guys) who were interested.

Personally, I though it was BS spread for the old school group when he said it. Who had the resume to get the gig? Jim Crews?

TK just felt a little lied to and got it on the record.

All I can tell Ted is: What did you expect ? Fred's a lawyer by training. If you bought all that manure he was shoveling out there TK I hope you have a garden to work it into.
 
He believes IU’s AD did not live up to search promises

BY TERRY HUTCHENS

CNHI SPORTS INDIANA

BLOOMINGTON — Ted Kitchel has never been one to mince words when it comes to hiring new Indiana basketball coaches.

The Lewis Cass product, who starred on the 1981 Indiana national championship team, was the guy who became famous for his thoughts on the day of Kelvin Sampson’s hiring in 2006.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,’’ Kitchel said at the time. “I wouldn’t hire that guy to coach my fifth-grade girls team. That guy is absolutely what we don’t want at IU.’’

Eleven years later, Kitchel is unhappy again. This time, he’s not anti-Archie Miller as much as he is disappointed in the way the coaching search played out, specifically in terms of whether former IU players were given serious consideration in the process.

Kitchel doesn’t believe anyone was. He said several former players were given “obligatory interviews” to discuss the future and the direction of the program, but no one was actually interviewed for the position.

“I haven’t heard from a single ex -player who is happy about the way this was handled,’’ Kitchel said. “The athletic director told us that an Indiana guy would have a shot and that he would interview anyone who was interested. And that was a lie. He talked to Randy Wittman for 15 minutes, and the same was true with Mike Woodson. He didn’t talk with Steve Alford. I don’t think Dane Fife was given more than an obligatory interview either.’’

Kitchel was quick to point out that his feelings had nothing to do with Miller, who Indiana announced Saturday it had hired as the coach to replace Tom Crean, who was fired by the university March 16. Miller will be introduced as the Indiana coach at a press conference at the university at 3 p.m. today.

“I’m sure that Archie Miller is a fine guy,’’ Kitchel said. “He’s had good success, and he’s coached under guys that I like a lot like Thad Matta. He has coached at good places. This has nothing to do with Miller or anything like that. It’s just that the AD said that an IU guy would have an opportunity, and I don’t believe that happened.

“I know that Steve Alford would have jumped at the chance. If Steve Alford goes into the house of the kid in New Albany [Romeo Langford] and talked to him, I think he would have packed a little more powerful punch than Archie Miller is going to have. I think recruiting the state of Indiana is really important, and I think Steve or Dane Fife would have been great. Dane Fife has had great success recruiting the state of Indiana at Michigan State. But Fred seems to know a heck of a lot more about it than any of us. That’s what he gets paid for to be the A.D. and so I guess we’ll let him do his job.’’

Kitchel said he has heard that a big reason Alford wasn’t seriously considered was because of the incident with one of his former players at

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CASS KING: Indiana forward Ted Kitchel prepares to fire one of his 18 free throws that he hit in a row to set a Big Ten record in a 78-61 victory over Illinois on Jan. 12, 1981. Kitchel made 11 of 13 field goal attempts for a career- and game-high 40 points.

File photo | The Associated Press


KITCHEL

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Iowa. Pierre Pierce was the Iowa player accused of sexually assaulting a student at the university in 2002. He and the victim ultimately agreed to a deal that allowed Pierce to plead to a lesser charge and give a public apology. Alford had stood behind his player, but many believed he had gone too far in his support. And matters got uglier three years later when Pierce was charged with assault on a woman he had previously been dating.

Kitchel said if that was the reason Alford wasn’t given consideration at Indiana then he wonders if Glass is the right person to lead the IU athletic department.

“That happened what 15 years ago? And Alford has been hired two times since then?’’ Kitchel said. “So other schools have looked at that and there has never been a problem. Is there any more of a liberal school in the country than UCLA? Do you think they didn’t look at that? I mean if Fred Glass is afraid of women coming out to protest because Steve Alford is your head coach … I mean are you kidding me? If that’s the case, I don’t think I want that guy leading my athletic program if he’s afraid of things like that. Maybe it’s time we look for a new athletic director.’’

Attempts to reach Glass for a response to Kitchel’s comments were unsuccessful.

Steve Risley was a teammate of Kitchel’s on IU’s 1981 national championship team and now resides in Los Angeles. He said Sunday he was one of the former players Glass reached out to seeking input on the direction of the program.

When told many former players weren’t happy with the process, Risley said he wasn’t sure why that would be.

“Fred Glass was very forthright with me with what he was trying to accomplish and what he was trying to find,” Risley said. “I don’t know if the players that are complaining didn’t get called by Glass or not.”

Risley thought Miller was a good choice.

“From what I’ve heard and what I’ve read about so far, I think he’s what people are looking for,” Risley said. “He’s a defensive-minded coach who plays very tough, physical basketball. Dayton plays that way, and they play like we used to play when I played at IU.

“I think if people get beyond that we needed to have Alford or Fife or Woodson or Wittman, and they start looking at [Miller] as our coach, I think they’re going to see a lot of things that they like. I did. I mean I was pulling for a lot of our IU guys, too. But I thought they all pretty much disqualified themselves in one way or another. And not in a negative way but rather Archie just gave [IU] a more qualified candidate for what they were looking for. I think it’s a good fit.”
Hutchens is a hack.
 
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t sounds like former players were consulted and that is really a courtesy that isn't required. Besides Alford, who came out and said he wasn't interested, what other former Indiana player is ready to step into this position. There are several players that are assistants, but Fife and maybe Lewis are the only 2 I would consider for the job. With that said, I would still rather have Miller. I really hope Miller could hire one of these as an assistant, but it isn't a requirement.

Kitchel sounds pissed that his guy wasn't picked. If his guy is Alford, I can think of reasons why he wasn't considered. First, he publicly said he wasn't interested. If that came before we contacted him, it would prevent us from pursuing him. If it came after we reached out, then he really didn't want to come to IU. Alford is rumored to still have contact with RMK. If this is true, Alford would have to weigh taking the job or being close to RMK. RMK is likely to be pissed off if Steve associated himself with IU. More importantly, Alford already has a good job.
 
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Actually he has a point with his primary premise: that being that Fred didn't do what he was originally perceived as saying he would do: which was "heavily" weigh the job search in favor of an IU guy and interview any and all (IU guys) who were interested.

Personally, I though it was BS spread for the old school group when he said it. Who had the resume to get the gig? Jim Crews?

TK just felt a little lied to and got it on the record.

All I can tell Ted is: What did you expect ? Fred's a lawyer by training. If you bought all that manure he was shoveling out there TK I hope you have a garden to work it into.

I actually think most have misconstrued Glass' comments regarding interviewing "IU guys"

In context, its clear that Glass was saying that he would listen to any feedback from any former players, and DID NOT say that any IU guy that was interested in the job would get an interview. In the same sentence, he also mentions that he would listen to any Indiana AAU or HS coach as well, so its pretty clear he was just seeking input, and that appears to be what he did
 
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Actually he has a point with his primary premise: that being that Fred didn't do what he was originally perceived as saying he would do: which was "heavily" weigh the job search in favor of an IU guy and interview any and all (IU guys) who were interested.

Personally, I though it was BS spread for the old school group when he said it. Who had the resume to get the gig? Jim Crews?

TK just felt a little lied to and got it on the record.

All I can tell Ted is: What did you expect ? Fred's a lawyer by training. If you bought all that manure he was shoveling out there TK I hope you have a garden to work it into.
How do you know who was interviewed? We would have never known Miller was interviewed if he hadn't taken the job. Alford came out and said he didn't want the job. Was he lying?

After Alford, the list of candidate dwindle to assistants and out of work NBA coaches. They all had time to reach out to Glass. Glass doesn't need to call them to ask if they are interested in a job. If they wanted the job, they would have called. If they had, I can't name a single former Indiana player to pick over Miller. Wittman and Woodson were a thought I had, but they have never coached college basketball.

Fred made the pick I am happy with if Stevens, Donovan, and Marshall weren't available. We got the man we wanted and didn't struggled in the process.
 
I appreciate what he did for the program, but he's not immune from criticism. He made obnoxious, out of touch remarks and contradicted the interview thing in the very next sentence. People get tired of the insistence on having every conceivable position have to go to an "IU guy."
Considering that there is nothing that IU can do that you won't defend to the death, it gotten to the point that you have take everything that you say with a grain of salt. You are loyal, to the point of being obedient
 
Actually he has a point with his primary premise: that being that Fred didn't do what he was originally perceived as saying he would do: which was "heavily" weigh the job search in favor of an IU guy and interview any and all (IU guys) who were interested.

Personally, I though it was BS spread for the old school group when he said it. Who had the resume to get the gig? Jim Crews?

TK just felt a little lied to and got it on the record.

All I can tell Ted is: What did you expect ? Fred's a lawyer by training. If you bought all that manure he was shoveling out there TK I hope you have a garden to work it into.
When I listened to the press conference I never got the feeling he said that just because you are form IU you get a more of a chance. all he said that if you are form IU then you will get a look but it would be no guarantee of a job.
 
You know what, you can disagree with his opinions for valid reasons, but Kitchel is a great former player and should be respected. Snide comments like this are bullshit. Why exactly is Kitchel wrong? Because you perceive him to be a grumpy old white guy who listens to Rush Limbaugh? Total bullshit.

I'm always amazed by the so-called fans around here who have apparently made it their mission in life to denigrate and trash everyone and everything that made this program great.

I calls 'em like I sees 'em
 
Besides Alford there was not one other former IU player who was remotely qualified for this job.

Exactly and given Alfords average resume I figured they would not hire him. He could not get past the sweet sixteen in 22 years. As far as Wittman and Woodson they are at least mid-fifties with no college experience.
 
There are some parts of what Kitchel said that I would agree with but here's the problem... There aren't very many "IU guys" out there who can fit the bill. His ire is misdirected. It truly is a shame that RMK's coaching tree is so bare because IU could've really benefited from hiring an IU guy this time around.

TK obviously still has an ax to grind with IU and is simply using this opportunity to vocalize it...

Also, his downplaying of the whole Pierre Pierce situation (i.e. how SA reacted to it and handled it) is exactly why SA wasn't the right guy to begin with. SA simply acted like a callous d*^%$head...plain and simple and this is reminiscent of RMK! That's what TK wants, a return to an era when men were men and women sat back and enjoyed it.

He doesn't realize that he's in the minority when it comes to this and that he's out of touch...seems like he never will be in touch. I'm glad Glass & Co. didn't make a HUGE mistake by going backwards for the glory of old IU...I'm looking forward to the future of old IU.

Maybe TK should too...

He really come off like this guy: https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/weekend-update-segment---grumpy-old-man/n9887?snl=1
 
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I don't give a rat's ass that it was a former player- the Pierce incident, whether it was 15 years or 15 minutes ago doesn't matter-it's about SA's judgement. Some things are inexcusable and that is one of them. As far as coaching, he is mediocre at best. I am so thankful he wasn't considered here. We would have been the laughing stock of bb. I appreciate what the players did here; but Glass shouldn't have said what he said. Calling for advice is one thing; "obligatory" interviews are a waste of time. None of the former players who are coaches are ready for this gig. Would I love Fife, Calbert or Lewis on the bench as an assistant--hell ya! If any of them were in a position, with success like CAM has had as a head coach; then you consider them, but they haven't.
Kitchell comes off as a whiny, old man; who like his former coach, seems to want to stick it to IU. I will always appreciate what they brought as players; but if you can't be an ambassador, then STFU.
Who is CAM, not Ryan
I don't give a rat's ass that it was a former player- the Pierce incident, whether it was 15 years or 15 minutes ago doesn't matter-it's about SA's judgement. Some things are inexcusable and that is one of them. As far as coaching, he is mediocre at best. I am so thankful he wasn't considered here. We would have been the laughing stock of bb. I appreciate what the players did here; but Glass shouldn't have said what he said. Calling for advice is one thing; "obligatory" interviews are a waste of time. None of the former players who are coaches are ready for this gig. Would I love Fife, Calbert or Lewis on the bench as an assistant--hell ya! If any of them were in a position, with success like CAM has had as a head coach; then you consider them, but they haven't.
Kitchell comes off as a whiny, old man; who like his former coach, seems to want to stick it to IU. I will always appreciate what they brought as players; but if you can't be an ambassador, then STFU.
who is CAM not Ryan Joseph Miller, aka Archie
 
I actually think most have misconstrued Glass' comments regarding interviewing "IU guys"

In context, its clear that Glass was saying that he would listen to any feedback from any former players, and DID NOT say that any IU guy that was interested in the job would get an interview. In the same sentence, he also mentions that he would listen to any Indiana AAU or HS coach as well, so its pretty clear he was just seeking input, and that appears to be what he did
Exactly. He said he would talk to any former IU player. He didn't say he would put them on his short list. Ted just still has his shorts in a bunch.
 
Kitchell clearly doesn't mind that Alford bent over backwards to defend a rapist.

And he clearly doesn't have the wits to anticipate the public backlash to hiring Alford.
 
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