One was caught and found guilty of cheating the other was arrested and charges dropped. But who the **** cares. We haven’t done much a new coach so the Beard debate is over. Move the **** on.
Kenny Johnson Returns to IU
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The more I read your stupid comments, the more I want to hit myself in the head with a hammer. You’re an idiot.
I've never heard KJ referred to as a great Xs and Os coach. He's never been referred to as a game technician type. It's all recruiting. That's his specialty. Do you hire him now unless he has the inside track on one or two quality recruits or transfers?
You need to find a NAIA team to follow….The whole thing is different. You either understand that or be miserable at all times
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No what it is everybody can't bitch about Beard and then we hire this guy. Don't preach DeVries about he is getting culture guys when you hire Johnson.
No what it is everybody can't bitch about Beard and then we hire this guy. Don't preach DeVries about he is getting culture guys when you hire Johnson.
I don't really care we hired him to me it's complete and utter hypocrisy of the holier than thou posters. They try and claim it's not the same but you are either holier than thou or you aren't. It's clear it's beard specific to them because they are just fine hiring a guy who had a show clause and tried to pay players.
This hire just exposes ths holier than thou posters as frauds. They should just admit it and we can move on.
Academics are just fine. Grads are aware.
"I hope he got her good" Classy
Dumb
Everybody else moved on. A couple of you keep flogging this stuff. Maybe because a particular favorite didn't get the job?
How is anybody a fraud? Are posters supposed to immediately rip on Indiana's coaching staff? Why? Just because you or ndhuntington want it to happen? lol
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Running g a clean program not a escort service like Johnson did at Louisville. Pitino said he ruined his life trying to blackmail him.
Reality check for the anti-Beard folks…
Remember that Josh Schertz had an even better record in the MVC last year with ISU. He is also doing good things at St Louis this year. It isn't that McCollum isn't a good coach. I'm sure he is. It is just a big jump to bet on a terrific young coach that hasn't done it in major college BB...
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Where are all the moral higher standards when everybody was pitching about beard.
Escort service was run by Andre McGee, not Kenny Johnson. Rick Pitino was the head coach of the program, not Kenny Johnson.
"Johnson spent three seasons at Louisville, and was widely considered to be one of the best recruiters in the country. He was placed on administrative leave and later fired in 2017, along with then-Louisville coach Rick Pitino, athletic director Tom Jurich and fellow assistant Jordan Fair after the federal investigation found an arrangement between the school and Adidas to pay players to play for Louisville under Pitino.
Both Fair and Johnson allegedly provided improper benefits to recruits, or someone associated with a recruit, among other violations."
So he was a pioneer AND a martyr.
Nope not at all I am fine with who we hired I will just call out hypocrites when I see them. Being selectively holier than thou is being a fraud imo. Then when they get called out they try to justify by saying it's not the same or it's to move on. The same guys who hated sampson over text messages are dead silent on kenny Johnson. It's complete hypocrisy at its finest. Id just like to know if Indy has pulled his donations. I mean escort service at UL wow. Who cares who ran it they all should have known and reported it is what we would say if it happened at IU.
Ok. But he was never alleged to have run an escort service, which is what the poster I was replying to claimed.
Yes it is.
2010-2014. KJ showed up in 2014. KJ was the guy in the Bowen deal. KJ replaced McGee. They never coached together.
Rick Pitino Says Former Louisville Assistant Is A ’Pathological Liar’ And Ruined His Life
Rick Pitino has been cleared, but he may never know closure.
The Hall of Fame basketball coach told NCAA investigators former University of Louisville assistant Kenny Johnson had “ruined my life,” caused his family “humiliation” and cost him $38 million in future salary through Johnson’s alleged duplicity in U of L’s fateful recruitment of Brian Bowen.
“(Johnson) may be on record, but I don't believe a word that that man says,” Pitino said in a 2021 NCAA interview at his current post at Iona University.
And you take Pitino's word as gospel?
He wouldn't be saying that to mitigate his responsibility? Nah.
Emphasize the importance of working together towards a common goal, rather than individual achievements.
Coaches and leaders should demonstrate the values and behaviors they expect from their team, setting a positive example for others to follow.
Coaches and leaders should demonstrate the values and behaviors they expect from their team, setting a positive example for others to follow.
Doesn’t say anything about him running an escort service, which is what you falsely claimed.
Hard to believe that two years after a major sex scandal Pitino would have no idea assistants were paying money to players.
This is also from your article:
“Though Pitino was willing to vouch for Johnson when he was hired by La Salle in 2018 — "he's innocent," Pitino said by text message — and described his former associate head coach as "a good person" whom he wished well after the show-cause penalty was announced, he had called him a "pathological liar" in his interview with investigators, said he intended to never speak to him again and that, "I don't think Kenny Johnson gives a shit what he did to me and my family." “
Looks like Pitino’s tune changed in regards to Johnson when the Feds came calling.
Still not a great look having 2 of CTCs IU assistant coaches on the staff. This was supposed to be a house cleaning.
Holier than thou only sometimes. Its comical. Second chances only for some. Why i would never have any interest in real life being around an elitest like indy in real life. He thinks he is better than everyone and has some moral high ground but in reality is just some woke white clown who just trashes others and I guess he gets off on it
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I did not read the article but brianiu quoted from the same article where Pitino had a TOTALLY different take on KJ. Did you just ignore that part of the article and Pitino's duplicity?
You and Bailey keep bringing up Beard. You do realize he would have been the head coach and not just some assistant that can be let go at the drop of the hat.
Good grief, Beard wasn't hired by anyone in this hiring cycle including IU. Get over it.
All we kept hearing was Indiana won't hire Beard because of the baggage and Indiana is above that but we hire a guy with mutiple NCAA fractions. We talk about Sampson like he is the devil but it's ok Kenny Johnson is the new born savior to Indiana. And then your hire shady guy in Drew Adams.
www.espn.com
ESPN: Basketball ties that bind
The coach of a top AAU team also runs a nonprofit foundation that mixes basketball and education -- but are the connections too friendly with some collegiate programs?
The hypocrisy is just amazing. The beard haters all gave egg on their faces. Especially Indy self proclaimed MrAll we kept hearing was Indiana won't hire Beard because of the baggage and Indiana is above that but we hire a guy with mutiple NCAA fractions. We talk about Sampson like he is the devil but it's ok Kenny Johnson is the new born savior to Indiana. And then your hire shady guy in Drew Adams.
ESPN: Basketball ties that bind
The coach of a top AAU team also runs a nonprofit foundation that mixes basketball and education -- but are the connections too friendly with some collegiate programs?
moral high ground guy.
Then DeVries comes in and is all about the right fit culture guys but let's talented players go and fills them with less talented players and hire coaches who pay players and bring in bad culture players I don't get it.
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