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Keir Starmer: "We need to reduce immigration - significantly."

No one is against white people being let in. People are just pointing out the hypocrisy of the people that call anyone of color illegal immigrants.

Sorry but just making immigration exceptions for white people is pretty suspect.
Who is Trump keeping out because they are people of color? Isn't he kicking anyone out who came into the nation illegally? If a bunch of Swedish people came up through Mexico I truly believe if they were found out they would be kicked out too.
 
Jet, how do you respond to someone such as myself who thinks about being part of what is called the human race?
Not Jet, but I'll chime in.
I didn't know that you were challenging AOC, Warren and Schiffty schift all at the same time.
Refuse your neighbors plight to favor problems outside of your understanding or control. Perfect way to totally fail the "human race" you care so much for. 100% success at failing.
 
Who is Trump keeping out because they are people of color? Isn't he kicking anyone out who came into the nation illegally? If a bunch of Swedish people came up through Mexico I truly believe if they were found out they would be kicked out too.
Let me know when Trump invites immigrants of color like he did for South Africa.

All I see him doing to those people is call them illegal immigrants and flying them to El Salvador
 
This. Is. Everything. When it comes to making decisions. Ultimately boundaries are artificial lines drawn by humans for territorial reasons. But we are all one species and should look after one another. It’s ironic to me that the MAGA’s for whatever reason think they have a lock on Christianity yet they literally defy the greatest commandment according to Jesus. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength AND love your neighbor as yourself. Well just what is my neighbor? Jesus the reported the story of the Good Samaritan.
I’m not a Christian, nor what you’d like to call MAGA. Jesus taught some good lessons, but I don’t subscribe to all of it. I will take care of my family, people in my community, country, etc, not really concerned with the rest of the human race until “my people” are taken care of, & no American should go without while our tax money is spent on immigrants & refugees. Your cause isn’t mine, & I shouldn’t have to fund it…
 
In one way, I think Trump’s ultranationalist positions are corrosive to geopolitical stability and hurts our ability to form and maintain alliances. Specifically in Europe which is still a major player although declining in stature.

In another. Should we expect any country to do anything other than what is best for them? Why should we make decisions and set policy in the interest of anyone other than ourselves?

Milei, Poland, MBS, Qatar. If they’re willing to bring money to the table and all the Euros want to do is bring coarse words something has to give.

I think this Middle East trip could potentially be historic. We have shifted from alliances with countries with whom we supposedly share ideology to countries who are willing to put up or shut up. They bring the cash.

Whether we want a large portion of the American economy funded on the back of middle eastern oil money is another question.

I don’t trust them. And it will take decades of good faith until I do.
 
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I have dozens of posts over the past year all over multiple threads discussing my position on refugees. You have resorted to childish personal attacks. I’m done with you
Good. You're an emotional midget. One of those lefties that say "i used to be a republican but I'm taking the moral high ground" i didn't resort to childish attacks. I called you what you are. A leftist. Just own it and stop lying.

Just be honest. People appreciate that.

Ill be honest. I want pre 1965 immigration act policy. I want and end to birthright citizenship. LBJ took FDRs reigns and finished this county off with shitty public policy.

It has nothing to do with race. I enjoy the things other cultures bring. Food especially. But like all things we can get saturated by it. The small town I grew up in, Washington Indiana is overwhelmed by Haitians. I live nearby and it's spreading. They don't fit culturally and it's ****ing up the community.

Hispanics fit. Especially Cubans and Honduras. Not many of them though. I wonder why?
 
Way to miss the point. I am saying everyone should be treated the same.

Unlike Trump and Maga racists who only think whites are ok. Dems aren't the one defending the racist.
Well, thats a fundamental difference. I don't think Muslims from Somalia should be treated the same as people from Latin America.

Hispanics at least bring something.


Dems are the most racist people that ever existed.
 
This. Is. Everything. When it comes to making decisions. Ultimately boundaries are artificial lines drawn by humans for territorial reasons. But we are all one species and should look after one another. It’s ironic to me that the MAGA’s for whatever reason think they have a lock on Christianity yet they literally defy the greatest commandment according to Jesus. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength AND love your neighbor as yourself. Well just what is my neighbor? Jesus the reported the story of the Good Samaritan.
Just no. Holy fvck. Also, quit using Jesus and the Bible, you don't understand it like you think you do.

You claim to be a doctor, I don't believe it.

Humans create cultural standards and have drawn lines for a reason. Go live in North Korea you'd probably like it there.

Decisions need to be made according to our law and in our best interest which isn't being done.
 
This. Is. Everything. When it comes to making decisions. Ultimately boundaries are artificial lines drawn by humans for territorial reasons. But we are all one species and should look after one another. It’s ironic to me that the MAGA’s for whatever reason think they have a lock on Christianity yet they literally defy the greatest commandment according to Jesus. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength AND love your neighbor as yourself. Well just what is my neighbor? Jesus the reported the story of the Good Samaritan.
I understand this wasn't for me.

Competition. We can't save everyone.

I'm a Christian and also have a degree in biology.

Forget the human race.

What are your personal struggles? Work within what you can control.

The human mind is an asshole

Whyis, writes, "we are all part of the same species and should look after each other" and SS says, "we cannot save everyone".

Picked both of these responses in respect to my reminder that we are all part of the human race. Instead of calling me naive and therefore completely unaware of reality these posters were kind.

As someone who actually focuses on probability I might not have been as kind to answering my own post as were these gentlement.

In all reality, let us face the fact the human race is competitive. Granted this competitivenes may lead to our ultimate downfall. On the other hand, the positive side of competition could lead to innovations which saves the human race.

Only time will tell.
 
Whyis, writes, "we are all part of the same species and should look after each other" and SS says, "we cannot save everyone".

Picked both of these responses in respect to my reminder that we are all part of the human race. Instead of calling me naive and therefore completely unaware of reality these posters were kind.

As someone who actually focuses on probability I might not have been as kind to answering my own post as were these gentlement.

In all reality, let us face the fact the human race is competitive. Granted this competitivenes may lead to our ultimate downfall. On the other hand, the positive side of competition could lead to innovations which saves the human race.

Only time will tell.
It’s not really a question. If the human race stops being competitive. We will all die.
 
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Well, thats a fundamental difference. I don't think Muslims from Somalia should be treated the same as people from Latin America.

Hispanics at least bring something.


Dems are the most racist people that ever existed.
Who is racist? The one that wants to treat people the same or the one that wants to treat people differently based on their race.

You keep making racist comments and calling other people racist
 
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Competition propels us forward. If everyone sat on their ass nothing would get done.

Get your ass off that offfice chair, a new factory manufacturing job will be coming to your town soon.

Not to mention stand up construction and farm hand jobs to replace those laborers sent back to their country of origin.

Added benefit, making America healthy again and lowering health costs.
 
Get your ass off that offfice chair, a new factory manufacturing job will be coming to your town soon.

Not to mention stand up construction and farm hand jobs to replace those laborers sent back to their country of origin.

Added benefit, making America healthy again and lowering health costs.
Life has thrown me some curveballs, sometimes knuckleballs, the last few years. I'm finally in a healthy position mentally and physically.

I think the thing that matters most is, are you producing something? Does it matter?

People want to feel what they are doing matters to someone.

The problem we have is shitheads elect shithead politicians thinking everyone want what we have.

Maybe they don't. Maybe they're happy. Maybe they want left alone.
 
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This is me being biased against a conservative:

You're on double secret probation. Chill out and ratchet down the vile posts and name calling or you'll be gone. End of conversation. You start bitching, I pull the trigger.
I haven't insulted anyone or called anyone names.
 
Life has thrown me some curveballs, sometimes knuckleballs, the last few years. I'm finally in a healthy position mentally and physically.

I think the thing that matters most is, are you producing something? Does it matter?

People want to feel what they are doing matters to someone.

The problem we have is shitheads elect shithead politicians thinking everyone want what we have.

Maybe they don't. Maybe they're happy. Maybe they want left alone.

SS, your remark about folks just wanting to left alone reminded me of someone.

SS, have dear friend age 56 whose life centered on his job as a high level warehouse inventory manager. His task was overseeing a supply chain which kept perishable vegetables and other products to the stores in a timely fashion.

He returned home from a high level corporate meeting for which he had spent several weeks preparing. During this prep time he ignoried a health problem and returned home to face an issue. The issue required a leg amputation from the knee down.

In 36 years in the food warehouse business he prided himself on never spending much time at a desk. He prefered walking the warehouses and observing the activities first hand.

When I last saw him he had been declared disabled given his current situation as compared to his active duties prior to the amputation.

There he was minus his usually jovial self. He sat in a wheel chair with his stump showing. His arthopedic leg was off and leaning next to his wheelchair as if he never wanted to wear it again and make himself whole.

Instead of talking about his work as we normally did, I got the impression he wanted to be left alone.

He was in a dark place which only death could end the darkness.
 
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Competition against other people is the only thing that motivates people?

That's clearly not true.

I don't think that's a fair summation of his comment.

You're right -- competition against others isn't the only motivator. People are motivated to do what they do by all kinds of things. When I play golf, most of the time I'm motivated by improving my own scores...or putting better, or more accurate ballstriking. Has nothing to do with other people.

I'm motivated to do charitable giving primarily by the benefits for society, others, etc. But I'll claim the deduction, too.

In my business and investing, my primary direct motivation is getting a good return on investment. That involves competition (especially in the business end). But only a stupid contractor always chases having the lowest bid. If a competitor wants to do projects for low margin, I hope he fills his book with them. He can have all of those he wants.

But even the things done for gain have indirect motivations that are higher -- security for me and my family, the ability to afford the things I want to have and do, the capacity to be more charitable.
 
I don't think that's a fair summation of his comment.

You're right -- competition against others isn't the only motivator. People are motivated to do what they do by all kinds of things. When I play golf, most of the time I'm motivated by improving my own scores...or putting better, or more accurate ballstriking. Has nothing to do with other people.

I'm motivated to do charitable giving primarily by the benefits for society, others, etc. But I'll claim the deduction, too.

In my business and investing, my primary direct motivation is getting a good return on investment. That involves competition (especially in the business end). But only a stupid contractor always chases having the lowest bid. If a competitor wants to do projects for low margin, I hope he fills his book with them. He can have all of those he wants.

But even the things done for gain have indirect motivations that are higher -- security for me and my family, the ability to afford the things I want to have and do, the capacity to be more charitable.
All true. Which is why the issue I’m responding to is untrue (Post 206).

Competition between humans isn’t vital to their literal survival.
 
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